Zutto Suki Datta Anata ga…. - Oneshot

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GTFOH! The only reason he made that effort and accepted those conditions was because he felt unworthy of her. He wanted to prove himself. Think about it—if he had just accepted a relationship with her and then started slacking off, would she have stayed with him? Clearly not, because she didn’t even want to be with him in the first place. Why? Because he wasn’t progressing, wasn’t making strides in his career, and wasn’t good at his job. Now that he’s improving and trying to better himself, he still felt like he wasn’t good enough. Those conditions weren’t set by him—they were set by her, and he tried to live up to them. No matter how you spin it, she only slept with the coworker out of jealousy toward the main character. Both she and the coworker are trash. Stop blaming the main character when all he did is exactly what she asked for.
i don't really blame him that much, he did mostly good in the beginning, now they are both at fault because of bad communication and ESPECIALLY the woman cuz she didn't say to him how she truly felt, bro wasn't aware he was hurting her with how he said somethings
 
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i don't really blame him that much, he did mostly good in the beginning, now they are both at fault because of bad communication and ESPECIALLY the woman cuz she didn't say to him how she truly felt, bro wasn't aware he was hurting her with how he said somethings
I see your point of view, but unfortunately, I have to disagree. She initially turned him down, saying he wasn’t progressing in his job. When he asked if improving would change her mind about dating him, she said, 'I don’t know if I would say yes to a relationship, but we can talk about some things.' I’m paraphrasing, but that’s essentially what she said. She never gave him a clear answer.

Then, what does he do the very next day? He goes to his rival and asks for help to improve. Why? Because he wanted to make himself worthy of being with her. He does just that—he improves himself. And now, he’s at fault for her jealousy over his success? That’s wrong.

The only reason she agreed to be with him is that, over time, she realized he was growing—improving at an alarming rate—while she remained stagnant. Now, imagine if they had gotten together and he stopped improving. Would she stay with him? There’s a big chance it wouldn’t have worked out. Why? Because she initially told him to improve.

She’s 100% at fault. She’s jealous of someone who is actively improving himself to be with her. That doesn’t make sense. It’s like saying that in a relationship, your girlfriend is mad at you for advancing in your job. Why would she be jealous of you improving yourself to be with her? It wouldn’t make sense.

But in this case, this woman was jealous of the main character for that very reason. Every time he improved himself, got better at his job, or received an award, she became more and more jealous. To the point where she slept with his rival.

To blame him—to say it’s partly his fault for trying to better himself to be worthy of her—is completely wrong. The only person at fault is her. She set conditions for him to improve himself. She didn’t accept him as he was. She used her jealousy to get back at him because she wanted him to hurt. That is disrespectful, diabolical, and one of the worst things she can do if she's supposedly in love with him.
 
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I see your point of view, but unfortunately, I have to disagree. She initially turned him down, saying he wasn’t progressing in his job. When he asked if improving would change her mind about dating him, she said, 'I don’t know if I would say yes to a relationship, but we can talk about some things.' I’m paraphrasing, but that’s essentially what she said. She never gave him a clear answer.

Then, what does he do the very next day? He goes to his rival and asks for help to improve. Why? Because he wanted to make himself worthy of being with her. He does just that—he improves himself. And now, he’s at fault for her jealousy over his success? That’s wrong.

The only reason she agreed to be with him is that, over time, she realized he was growing—improving at an alarming rate—while she remained stagnant. Now, imagine if they had gotten together and he stopped improving. Would she stay with him? There’s a big chance it wouldn’t have worked out. Why? Because she initially told him to improve.

She’s 100% at fault. She’s jealous of someone who is actively improving himself to be with her. That doesn’t make sense. It’s like saying that in a relationship, your girlfriend is mad at you for advancing in your job. Why would she be jealous of you improving yourself to be with her? It wouldn’t make sense.

But in this case, this woman was jealous of the main character for that very reason. Every time he improved himself, got better at his job, or received an award, she became more and more jealous. To the point where she slept with his rival.

To blame him—to say it’s partly his fault for trying to better himself to be worthy of her—is completely wrong. The only person at fault is her. She set conditions for him to improve himself. She didn’t accept him as he was. She used her jealousy to get back at him because she wanted him to hurt. That is disrespectful, diabolical, and one of the worst things she can do if she's supposedly in love with him.
i also see your point my man i also agree with what you say, while he was not perfect he did his very best for her not even knowing when to stop(it's fine not too, his success is the best kind of salt for her type) i just hoped he moved on from her, not that mentality he showed at the end still wanting her
still it feels bad when you lock in so hard for someone and they leave you
 
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people yelling at her but he kept putting her off for way too long, just man up you loser lol

EDIT: this kind of manga really brings out a certain kind of crowd huh
This is basically "everyone involved is garbo". Then again, most of the time, that's what you need for the asspull ntr plots to work in the first place.
 
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This is basically "everyone involved is garbo". Then again, most of the time, that's what you need for the asspull ntr plots to work in the first place.
I mean, not really? Asspull NTR plot is not working because of everyone being garbage, lol. This work straight up is evidence for that.

MC did absolutely nothing wrong and isn‘t garbage? He is a great human being that worked hard but was duped multiple times by a cum sponge.

Well, this is a NTR fetish manga without any compexity or compelling story AND the sex was cut short so it wouldn’t be labeled as hentai- reading too much into it just makes no sense and isn‘t worth it.

Again, some people like this stuff (the thrill of actual NTR) but it certainly doesn’t "work“
 
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I see your point of view, but unfortunately, I have to disagree. She initially turned him down, saying he wasn’t progressing in his job. When he asked if improving would change her mind about dating him, she said, 'I don’t know if I would say yes to a relationship, but we can talk about some things.' I’m paraphrasing, but that’s essentially what she said. She never gave him a clear answer.

Then, what does he do the very next day? He goes to his rival and asks for help to improve. Why? Because he wanted to make himself worthy of being with her. He does just that—he improves himself. And now, he’s at fault for her jealousy over his success? That’s wrong.

The only reason she agreed to be with him is that, over time, she realized he was growing—improving at an alarming rate—while she remained stagnant. Now, imagine if they had gotten together and he stopped improving. Would she stay with him? There’s a big chance it wouldn’t have worked out. Why? Because she initially told him to improve.

She’s 100% at fault. She’s jealous of someone who is actively improving himself to be with her. That doesn’t make sense. It’s like saying that in a relationship, your girlfriend is mad at you for advancing in your job. Why would she be jealous of you improving yourself to be with her? It wouldn’t make sense.

But in this case, this woman was jealous of the main character for that very reason. Every time he improved himself, got better at his job, or received an award, she became more and more jealous. To the point where she slept with his rival.

To blame him—to say it’s partly his fault for trying to better himself to be worthy of her—is completely wrong. The only person at fault is her. She set conditions for him to improve himself. She didn’t accept him as he was. She used her jealousy to get back at him because she wanted him to hurt. That is disrespectful, diabolical, and one of the worst things she can do if she's supposedly in love with him.
And not only that, her jealousy against his improvements at work went so far that she has SEEN the MC behind the door, and she kept going with the colleague like some sort of revenge (and revenge for what, doing his best? That's just shitty)
 
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And not only that, her jealousy against his improvements at work went so far that she has SEEN the MC behind the door, and she kept going with the colleague like some sort of revenge (and revenge for what, doing his best? That's just shitty)
She did all of that just to punish him—for doing his job, for progressing like she asked him to. What kind of logic is that? She wanted him to suffer because she was stagnant in her own work, because she wasn’t progressing. That’s so stupid. So disrespectful. But she loved him?! How pathetic. Absolutely ridiculous.
 
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This is just a reminder to what the author could do in aitsu no kanojo, don't get surprised if he start making chapters about the main girl being a slut in front of the protagonist, is more than clear that the artist is a cucklold that is into that kind of girls.
 
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Every flaws and mistakes of the characters I can think of

Haruki :
  • lost his original purpose
  • his lack of self-esteem for believing not be able to be loved by Tsukino without needing to achieving something

Yuzuki :
Don't know if they were truly friends or just colleagues so I can't say "choose a hoe before his bro" but :
- willingly sleeping with the dream girl of someone you know when he is about to meet with her
(didn't even know if they were going out at that time, but the bastard knew Haruki's feeling for her at the time)

Tsukino :
- Being too Prideful for :
  • Not being honest at his first confessions
  • Not saying what she truly feels after their date
  • Feeling inferior when Haruki surpassed her after she asked him to grow when he has confessed earlier
- sleep with Yuzuki without rejecting Haruki first if they're not together at the time, otherwise blatantly cheated on him.
 
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The reactions to this oneshot are funnier than the oneshot itself. I know yall consider NTR to be a blight on humanity (I'm not the biggest fan of it either), but on god overreacting takes on a whole new meaning with you people.

For what its worth though I thought this was fine. I even jokingly predicted the conclusion early on and I was kinda proud of myself (even though it was somewhat obvious given Nikumaru's track record).

Thank you for the translation.
 
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Every flaws and mistakes of the characters I can think of

Haruki :
  • lost his original purpose
  • his lack of self-esteem for believing not be able to be loved by Tsukino without needing to achieving something

Yuzuki :
Don't know if they were truly friends or just colleagues so I can't say "choose a hoe before his bro" but :
- willingly sleeping with the dream girl of someone you know when he is about to meet with her
(didn't even know if they were going out at that time, but the bastard knew Haruki's feeling for her at the time)

Tsukino :
- Being too Prideful for :
  • Not being honest at his first confessions
  • Not saying what she truly feels after their date
  • Feeling inferior when Haruki surpassed her after she asked him to grow when he has confessed earlier
- sleep with Yuzuki without rejecting Haruki first if they're not together at the time, otherwise blatantly cheated on him.
*lost his original purpose

Haruki didn’t lose sight of his original purpose. If his goal was to improve himself to be worthy of the woman he’s in love with, then his promotion to Editor-in-Chief by the end of the chapter demonstrates that he stayed true to that purpose. Claiming otherwise doesn’t make sense.

*his lack of self-esteem for believing not be able to be loved by Tsukino without needing to achieving something.

This statement would hold true if Tsukino hadn’t set specific conditions for Haruki to meet in order to be with her. She’s the one who initially rejected him, saying, “I would go out with you, but I’m afraid it would complicate things with your job. You haven’t been progressing in the four years since you started here. Even your rival is being called the next ace.” She emphasized his rival’s achievements, prompting Haruki to ask if she would go out with him if he improved himself. Tsukino replied, “I don’t know about a relationship, but we can talk about doing other things.”

From that moment, Haruki pledged to improve himself for her. And what did he do the very next day? After making that promise, he went straight to his rival, asked for help on how to improve, explained his goals, and admitted why—he wanted to surpass his rival to become worthy of her. She’s the one who set those conditions. Criticizing Haruki for seeking help to improve himself and claiming he’s not worthy because he didn’t do it alone is absurd. That’s the most ridiculous argument to make.

Not only did Tsukino set those conditions, but the only reason she showed interest in him after he started improving was jealousy. She couldn’t stand that he was succeeding at an alarming rate while she remained stagnant. How can you not see that? Think about it: if they entered a relationship, and Haruki stopped improving or plateaued, would she have stayed with him? The answer is no. Her jealousy proves that her core problem lies within herself, not Haruki.

No one who truly loves you would root for your downfall or envy your success. Tsukino’s actions—knowingly sleeping with his rival while making sure Haruki witnessed it—prove she wanted him to hurt because she was hurting.

In conclusion, it’s ridiculous to criticize the main character for improving himself, especially when he did so under the conditions Tsukino herself set.
 
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*lost his original purpose

Haruki didn’t lose sight of his original purpose. If his goal was to improve himself to be worthy of the woman he’s in love with, then his promotion to Editor-in-Chief by the end of the chapter demonstrates that he stayed true to that purpose. Claiming otherwise doesn’t make sense.

*his lack of self-esteem for believing not be able to be loved by Tsukino without needing to achieving something.

This statement would hold true if Tsukino hadn’t set specific conditions for Haruki to meet in order to be with her. She’s the one who initially rejected him, saying, “I would go out with you, but I’m afraid it would complicate things with your job. You haven’t been progressing in the four years since you started here. Even your rival is being called the next ace.” She emphasized his rival’s achievements, prompting Haruki to ask if she would go out with him if he improved himself. Tsukino replied, “I don’t know about a relationship, but we can talk about doing other things.”

From that moment, Haruki pledged to improve himself for her. And what did he do the very next day? After making that promise, he went straight to his rival, asked for help on how to improve, explained his goals, and admitted why—he wanted to surpass his rival to become worthy of her. She’s the one who set those conditions. Criticizing Haruki for seeking help to improve himself and claiming he’s not worthy because he didn’t do it alone is absurd. That’s the most ridiculous argument to make.

Not only did Tsukino set those conditions, but the only reason she showed interest in him after he started improving was jealousy. She couldn’t stand that he was succeeding at an alarming rate while she remained stagnant. How can you not see that? Think about it: if they entered a relationship, and Haruki stopped improving or plateaued, would she have stayed with him? The answer is no. Her jealousy proves that her core problem lies within herself, not Haruki.

No one who truly loves you would root for your downfall or envy your success. Tsukino’s actions—knowingly sleeping with his rival while making sure Haruki witnessed it—prove she wanted him to hurt because she was hurting.

In conclusion, it’s ridiculous to criticize the main character for improving himself, especially when he did so under the conditions Tsukino herself set.
For him losing Original purpose,
I will add something to your version of "original purpose" :
"to improve himself to be worthy of the woman he’s in love with" so they can be together in the end.

And it that case, it really depends if two years post initial confession (so they night she cheated on him), they are together or not.
If they are, please excuse me, I was wrong about that.
If they are not for, I will say it again, MC lost his initial purpose. Even by accepting his explanation the night just after the date, you would tell me in 18 months and everything he had to achieve to get a award while being on TV, that he still didn't "achieved result that he could be proud of using his own abilities" according his own word, then I say it's bullshit, our protagonist learn the joy of progress and prioritized that over the initial goal. I would like to add he could have still continued with his self-improvement at work while going out with her.

For the lack of self-esteem, It not about his quest for self improvement, not at all.
I'm sorry if I made it sound that way, it's for 3 others reasons, 2 hypothetical or based on my assumptions, and the last far more justified :

- 1 = his explanation after there first date that his success is because of others and coincidence sounded far too much like someone with imposter syndrome.
But maybe that just me.

- 2 = 2 years post initial confession, the night he got his award, I had the assumption they still aren't together, so like I said earlier, if after everything he did in his job to get a award on Live TV, he still feels he is still not enough to officially asked her out, then Yep there really is a problem with self-esteem.
But maybe my assumption is wrong and they were already together.

- 3 (the true reason) : his response for after he found them that night. Even if it were a coping mechanism, he justified what she did (whether they were going out or not at that time) by "it's not her fault, I'm the one in the wrong, it's because I'm still not enough." He never held her responsable when he obviously should, and still tried to run after her for years after that night until he became editor-in-chief and still try afterwards. If you tell me he don't have serious self-esteem problems that he would excuse someone to trample his heart (if not blatantly cheated on him) and make it his own fault, please explain. It's not a rethorical question, please explain it to me, I don't understand.


And once again, with my previous comment if I made it sound like that his self-improvement make at fault for getting destroyed like that, it wasn't what I meant, and for that I will add another thing :
I think that even in an alternate version where they would officially get together after their date 6 months after his confession, she would still end up cheating on him.
Simple reasoning, even in the case they would have got together, she is the one who taught him that he had bring result in his job to be worthy of her so he would have still strived to be better.
Like we saw in the story, he is good, so he would have gone on on being better than and outclassed her and his colleague so they would still ended feeling inferior to him.
The two sharing the same feeling would still seeing eachother to shared their struggles, instead of working on it.
And as MC go higher and higher than them. Which would have brought them to the same state that night.

So finally I will say who I BLAME in order :

- Yuzuki is most to blame by a land slide, she is the one who made Haruki go to that route, start pouting when he started becoming better than him a got a problem with it, and then destroyed him because she couldn't accept it.

For the two others it depends of several assumptions =
A : MC asked her out between their first date and that sad night and they were together since then.
B : Haruki and Yuzuki weren't just colleagues who had started at the same time but friends

If A and B are false, I can say nothing to Yuzuki, he like the woman, 2 years earlier he helped his colleague to be with her yet he has done nothing since then. Game is game.
If either A or B is true, he is a bastard, for either sleeping with his friend's dream girl, or the girlfriend of someone he knew.
And if Both assumptions are true, he is a fucking monster.

For Haruki, our protagonist, even if nothing he has done make him deserved that, if A is not true, I will complain "why did he play with his food when it was ready to be eaten."
And I would still say that his lack of self-esteem is a fault when after everything she has done to him, he still doesn't understand that she doesn't deserve him.

Thanks you very much if you read my response until here.

Have a great day/evening/night.
 

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