Nibanme na Boku to Ichiban no Kanojo - Ch. 2.2

[EulBassist]

Thanks for the chapter!

 

[BanditHadron]

Is manga just intentionally showing braindead kids or are children in Japan actually that dumb? Even a five year oid would realize that sewing someone's button back on has nothing to do with flirting.

To be fair, it's not like kids / teenagers elsewhere in the world are much better when it comes to emotionally-charged things like relationships. You ever see any of those news stories where someone's life was effectively destroyed over a rumour, or a suicide as a result of rampant bullying from something harmless perceived poorly?

It happens, unfortunately. Teachers really need to learn the correct ways to intervene and make sure they get the facts straight beforehand.

 

[bryancostco]

Thanks for the chapter !!

 

[Elfteiroh]

Usually, the person that fix one’s button will either be a boy’s mother, or a man’s wife, at least, that how many people that hold into these “traditional” beliefs think. (I fix my own buttons, thank you very much, but eh.)
So for many of these, doing something that you expect to be done only by someone close, means that you want or hope to be that close.
But if you never actually confirm with the other person, that’s just projecting. Way too many people believe that everyone else think the same as them, and make assumptions based on that.

 

[Sempiternal]

Thanks for the chapter

 

[kuchiki9988]

I quite like how the author is building up the main characters, I have good expections going forward

But what the heck is this author-san

 

[runfromwolves]

He wasn't even saying "all men are pigs except for me." He was expressing empathy for what happened to her

that's what "i'm so sorry that happened" would have been -- expressing empathy. instead he's inserting himself into the equation with an "as a fellow man, i must apologize for the actions of other men." if you've never seen this happen, i'm glad you haven't had to deal with it. it's unfortunately very common and incredibly annoying.

since this should clear it up for you (or if it somehow doesn't!), i'll spare us both a potential headache and refrain from replying further. have a good day.

 

[Kagimizu]

I mean it's almost like Japan is a society where responsibility is paramount. Superiors are often punished or held to account for the actions of those working under them. Families are scorned or punished for the actions of a relative. Teachers/educators held responsible for the behavior/actions of their students. So on and so forth. And from his perspective he recognizes that two men- men just like him- unfairly blamed her for things that were entirely out of her control. The fellow student even going so far as trying to assault her, whereas the teacher- who has a responsibility to know better and be better- took the rumors at face value and apparently didn't even try to get her side of the story. Or did, and proceeded to completely ignore it.

In isolation it could easily be seen as a scummy and manipulative move, inserting himself into the equation and trying to make it about him. But in the context of the story he's trying to be a good host and lend a supportive ear while she disengages her "people pleaser" persona and shares her story. Then after hearing her story he feels a sense of vicarious responsibility and that, as a man, he should at least offer her the apology she is owed but never received. It's like in those "feel good" movies where someone recognizes that people in their profession/position have failed a specific person, and thus they feel like they're obligated to make it up to that person.

Now having said that this is all also within the specific context of this situation, where we can see he has neither expectation nor intention of pursuing an ulterior motive. In fact she even teased him multiple times for his kindness, which in hindsight feels like a defense mechanism on her part to feel out his motives and character. IRL things are always a lot more murky, and I do easily believe that people across the gender spectrum have used similar words to manipulate someone. I just feel like in this particular instance it's important to recognize the narrative context and the character's motivations.

Not that this will amount to anything seeing as the person I'm responding to has opted to step away from the conversation, and I'm only "replying" without actually pinging them because I feel a compulsion to not leave these thoughts unsaid. But, what can you do?

 

[Haydrion101]

Man, this Manga is givin me heartaches by the number. ;3;

 

[krathar]

I like that credit page.

 

[TONIYA]

NOICE

 

[Superpeanut]

To be fair, it's not like kids / teenagers elsewhere in the world are much better when it comes to emotionally-charged things like relationships. You ever see any of those news stories where someone's life was effectively destroyed over a rumour, or a suicide as a result of rampant bullying from something harmless perceived poorly?

It happens, unfortunately. Teachers really need to learn the correct ways to intervene and make sure they get the facts straight beforehand.

Honestly it’s not uncommon to see in adults now either. I’m going full on “in my day” so get the lawn chairs and smoking pipe ready… old man rant… starts… NOW:

I’ve been working on an idea in the back of my head. That our mass-communication (call it The Internet, call it Social Media, whatever) has been leading more and more people to seek validation for their behavior and thoughts - instead of seeking “improvement”. I can 100% believe people have always been crappy. But it seems like it used to be that behavior being shut down in a public space and the individual being socially pressured to change. Your main social interaction was face-to-face.
Not so anymore. And somewhere in that change, we swapped to “everyone needs to accept me for who I am” instead of.. you know… looking for self-improvement. Improvement mentally, emotionally, morally and ethically…
And I see this strongest online. Where people will look to find an echo chamber of validation (I wasn’t wrong to leave my girlfriend, she was wrong because she was leading me on! It wasn’t my fault I misread the situation, she was wrong for tricking me!) so on and so forth.

Old man rant over. Time to go stare at clouds.

 

[ZeraByte]

Spoiler

physically cringed when i read this page; the rest was nice but this is such a common incel/'nice guy' talking point (i.e. "all men are pigs except for me lol") that i died a little and then burst out laughing at how absurd her reaction is in that context

obviously he gon apologise twin, not all of us are rapists. What's he supposed to say? 'damn thats crazy ngl' 😭😭?

 

[kamilion]

Honestly it’s not uncommon to see in adults now either. I’m going full on “in my day” so get the lawn chairs and smoking pipe ready… old man rant… starts… NOW:

I’ve been working on an idea in the back of my head. That our mass-communication (call it The Internet, call it Social Media, whatever) has been leading more and more people to seek validation for their behavior and thoughts - instead of seeking “improvement”. I can 100% believe people have always been crappy. But it seems like it used to be that behavior being shut down in a public space and the individual being socially pressured to change. Your main social interaction was face-to-face.
Not so anymore. And somewhere in that change, we swapped to “everyone needs to accept me for who I am” instead of.. you know… looking for self-improvement. Improvement mentally, emotionally, morally and ethically…
And I see this strongest online. Where people will look to find an echo chamber of validation (I wasn’t wrong to leave my girlfriend, she was wrong because she was leading me on! It wasn’t my fault I misread the situation, she was wrong for tricking me!) so on and so forth.

Old man rant over. Time to go stare at clouds.

Pretty much bang on. And people encourage being unfiltered online.
Simple things my grandmother beat into me, like please and thank you, and treating people doing their jobs as human beings instead of mindless automatons. "Have a nice day" goes a long way.

 

[Superpeanut]

obviously he gon apologise twin, not all of us are rapists. What's he supposed to say? 'damn thats crazy ngl' 😭😭?

He should’ve done the proper reply:

 

[Statyc]

Spoiler

physically cringed when i read this page; the rest was nice but this is such a common incel/'nice guy' talking point (i.e. "all men are pigs except for me lol") that i died a little and then burst out laughing at how absurd her reaction is in that context

Yeah, that second half shouldn't have even been a thought. In the LN, it was something he muttered to himself that she overheard. Fortunately, that's just about it for incel/nice guy catchphrases in the LN.

Didn’t find anything about sewing, but according to Google ai (yeah not gonna research since it’s dead of night over here)

The first 3 buttons on a boys uniform for junior high or high school represents someone/have a meaning

1st represents himself, the 2nd represents the person most beloved to you, and the 3rd represents a best friend “and so on”

So idk which one FMC sewed, but if it’s the second one that makes sort of sense? I’m still confused how the boyfriend thought it meant leading on

THANK YOU FOR THE CHAPTER @Cecey55

Being given a button to sew it back on: Means nothing. Being given that button, as a keepsake, means those things.

 

[imjluma]

Why does every manga act like rapey dudes are normal

 

[marcosisusuuw]

Passando estranho, não me convenceu a gostar dela Sorry