Akuyaku Reijou Tensei Ojisan - Vol. 7 Ch. 45 - Star Birth Ceremony - Part 5

[EmiYusa]

I didnt get the trial at all, bit nice to see a man charácter that isn't a ikemen xD ,(and a shota, plus old man of course)
Thanks for the chapter!

 

[Wizardrone]

thanks for chapter

 

[Wildfire]

He really looks like a bland teacher. Or an older MC.

Don't smoke. It's bad for you.

I wouldn't assume he used actual magic for that trick.

Just a standard prisoner's dilemma. Except that the baseline is a pass, and both of them have to pass for any meaningful progress. If you betray, you get a reward, but you're unable to pass the next trial, so it's just not worth it.

Why would you consider betrayal between these two?

Because you get told you have been betrayed.
It's not the prisoner's dilemma, it's just framed that way to give you the actual dilemma.
You have can see your partner has betrayed you. do you:
1. Accept and let your partner win alone (Anna)
2. Retaliate and make you partner lose too.
3. Realise it's a trick and there is no betrayal (Grace)
And a possibly 4th option of panicking and getting out of the chair, in an attempt to turn off the candles.

 

[AnotherDuck]

It's not the prisoner's dilemma, it's just framed that way to give you the actual dilemma.

It's clearly based on the prisoner's dilemma. With differences, like I said.

 

[sweetlight]

I love this Ojisan teacher, and a lovely view of the prisoner’s dilemma- i like the twist of him using the pepper‘s Ghost effect ! It’s always fun in a magical setting to see someone using actual sleight of hand and stage tricks -w-

I think studying the human mind into the line about studying the human heart makes sense- she’s emphasising the importance of the study by saying its not just about studying the mind, its about studying the human experience- studying our hearts. At least, thats how i interpreted it

 

[Koneko_Nyaa]

I want to pat the fluffy maid!

 

[parkourse]

Fine take on the prisoner's dilemma.

 

[d_a_renoir]

It feels like the whole game is rigged against betrayal even without the reveal.

You're forgetting the part that the teacher is right there to cause confusion.
He used his lighter and the trick with the glass to make it look like the lamps lit up. The set up here is meant to make the test-taker panic, thinking they've been betrayed, and then light up the lamp for real in revenge.
The test-takers either have to have a lot of faith in the other person or be smart enough to figure out that there's a trick involved to hold back and not do anything.

 

[Psychronia]

You're forgetting the part that the teacher is right there to cause confusion.
He used his lighter and the trick with the glass to make it look like the lamps lit up. The set up here is meant to make the test-taker panic, thinking they've been betrayed, and then light up the lamp for real in revenge.
The test-takers either have to have a lot of faith in the other person or be smart enough to figure out that there's a trick involved to hold back and not do anything.

Aaah. I didn't quite realize the trick there because I was under the impression that mutually putting in magic would put the lamps out. That makes more sense.

 

[d_a_renoir]

Aaah. I didn't quite realize the trick there because I was under the impression that mutually putting in magic would put the lamps out. That makes more sense.

Ah, that was where the small window comes to play. The teacher specified that both lamps have to be in view to put the lamps out. So by limiting their vision to just one lamp with the pods, even if they both light the lamps it won't put out.
So if they both panic and use magic, then both of them fail.