Mangadex to purge titles for legal reasons

[Miros]

Why does this remind me of the BS crunchyroll and FAKKU pulled off before they went full corpo?

 

[cybeast21]

Hello, sir,

Here are 136 pages of lolisho rated as erotica or mature. Please remove them from your site, as they are illegal and violate your nonsensical policy:

https://mangadex.org/titles?page=1&...erotica&onlyAvailableChapters=false&incMode=2

Go on, humor me, and remove them.
Protip: you won't

They won't, but thanks for the recommendation

 

[Mazaky]

This is not going to end well, I'm telling you, the event that's gonna unfold is people mass exodus from this site, along with subscription cancellations. Betray your fans, and the trust is lost forever.

I gotta say, I have been reading from several other sites for a long time since the few last mass purges that happened on this site, I still had some I would come back (without even login anymore, just plain search) because of the scan groups being better. If they move to other sites that keep gaining strength out there I would have no reason to come back and I think a lot of people will realize that with this shitshow that is happening right now.

 

[deleted-user-1b973a06d2]

Why does this remind me of the BS crunchyroll and FAKKU pulled off before they went full corpo?

Because it is pretty much the same thing.
They're registered as a company under(?) NamiComi on the UK, so they're probably scrapping everything "problematic" so they can go legal.
In a few months or years, they're going to have to delete every single manga translation cause it's going to be categorized as "pirated content" in the eye of the law.

 

[AlphraLoust]

Aight I'm getting kinda tired of reading hours of arguing with sprinkles of xenophobia/racism. I'll check in tomorrow to see where this ended up. Enjoy some peak Undertale animation!

There needs to be an emoticon for a bundle of sticks.

 

[B4z73rd]

Because it is pretty much the same thing.
They're registered as a company under(?) NamiComi on the UK, so they're probably scrapping everything "problematic" so they can go legal.
In a few months or years, they're going to have to delete every single manga translation cause it's going to be categorized as "pirated content" in the eye of the law.

Except mangas with no official translations. That's the category my group sticks it's nose in. Unless an overseas publisher wants to own the whole Katts Work catalog like Fakku did with Wanimanga, we'll just continue with what we're working on, and hope that if it happens, we get picked up to be the legit translators of their work.

 

[Pauan]

Except mangas with no official translations.

Even if it doesn't have an official translation, it is still copyright infringement, it is still illegal, it is still piracy.

All scanlations are, by definition, illegal and copyright infringement.

Every single manga on MangaDex is illegal, except for the manga that were officially licensed from the copyright holder.

 

[popo53414]

some schizo in discord is spreading word that new chapters will soon be paywalled, only coming out and remaining free for the 2nd week of their release. And old chapters will be permanently paywalled.

 

[Superasil]

Titles being removed are those we have been made aware of through a legal nexus

This alludes back to my previous quote in this thread.

Get the fuck out of whatever dogshit country you are in that considers this illegal materiel. Were you threatened with any actual legal action? If so tell us. If not, ignore them.

If you or the admin team genuinely cared about the "longevity" of the website you would move your host out of the country that demands these actions.

Further, I still firmly believe you should step down. Your original comments clearly show you are not a person that has the emotional or logical capacity to run an anime website. You've shown you can't be trusted because of your views.

 

[PilotNOT]

some schizo in discord is spreading word that new chapters will soon be paywalled, only coming out and remaining free for the 2nd week of their release. And old chapters will be permanently paywalled.

Wouldn't be surprised, they want to have both cake and eat it to.

 

[seekermoc]

Because it is pretty much the same thing.
They're registered as a company under(?) NamiComi on the UK, so they're probably scrapping everything "problematic" so they can go legal.
In a few months or years, they're going to have to delete every single manga translation cause it's going to be categorized as "pirated content" in the eye of the law.

I wouldn't even be mad about it if that was the case, I just wish they'd be open about it.

What I would be mad about is if they retroactively got licenses for scanlated manga, then made a profit by selling subscriptions to read fan-scanlated manga without paying anything back to the groups that did all the work.

And before anyone says that's not possible, remember back to when the updated terms of service were first posted on MD (and since revoked), which said that any content posted on MD becomes owned by NamiComi and could be sold for-profit by NamiComi at any time they decide to do so.

edit: actually, the terms still say effectively the same thing, just worded in a less explicit way. See https://mangadex.org/compliance/terms particularly paragraph 7. They aren't claiming ownership over content, but do still reserve the right to resell it as they wish.

 

[B4z73rd]

Even if it doesn't have an official translation, it is still copyright infringement, it is still illegal, it is still piracy.

All scanlations are, by definition, illegal and copyright infringement.

Every single manga on MangaDex is illegal, except for the manga that were officially licensed from the copyright holder.

Yeah, it's owned by the original company, but it's whatever if they feel like coming after us. We'll stop whenever it gets too hot, but we'll keep circling around the sun until then.

 

[Mazaky]

some schizo in discord is spreading word that new chapters will soon be paywalled, only coming out and remaining free for the 2nd week of their release. And old chapters will be permanently paywalled.

To do that they would have to make all the scan groups agree to not publish in any other site or do the translation themselves. This is high unlikely since most of the old chapters are already scrapped in many other sites and, unless they are receiving most of the revenue, the groups would just stop posting here. This also would make a strong case for a total take-down of the entire site since this is why many manhwas focused pages were taken down.

 

[Miros]

Because it is pretty much the same thing.
They're registered as a company under(?) NamiComi on the UK, so they're probably scrapping everything "problematic" so they can go legal.
In a few months or years, they're going to have to delete every single manga translation cause it's going to be categorized as "pirated content" in the eye of the law.

 

[B4z73rd]

I wouldn't even be mad about it if that was the case, I just wish they'd be open about it.

What I would be mad about is if they retroactively got licenses for scanlated manga, then made a profit by selling subscriptions to read fan-scanlated manga without paying anything back to the groups that did all the work.

And before anyone says that's not possible, remember back to when the updated terms of service were first posted on MD (and since revoked), which said that any content posted on MD becomes owned by NamiComi and could be sold for-profit by NamiComi at any time they decide to do so.

Okay, that would piss me and my group off, and would have to shut down our operation here.

 

[Jadeite_McSwag]

Except mangas with no official translations.

Several manga without any "official" translations were already removed in the big purge a while back lol

 

[PilotNOT]

Okay, that would piss me and my group off, and would have to shut down our operation here.

Couldn't you relocate your operations elsewhere?

 

[cybeast21]

Except mangas with no official translations. That's the category my group sticks it's nose in. Unless an overseas publisher wants to own the whole Katts Work catalog like Fakku did with Wanimanga, we'll just continue with what we're working on, and hope that if it happens, we get picked up to be the legit translators of their work.

Sadly lot of manga without official TL got hit anyway. It's still illegal in the first place.

 

[B4z73rd]

Couldn't you relocate your operations elsewhere?

I mean yeah, we are using e-hentai.org as our alternate hosting location. It's not the greatest, but it's the freeest place to host shit. The uploading is always so much work, MD has a better UI and traffic (until now).

 

[seekermoc]

Okay, that would piss me and my group off, and would have to shut down our operation here.

I edited my previous comment because I went back and checked and some of those things are still present. The new terms specify that they don't claim ownership over contributions, but that posting here grants them an irrevocable license to resell it as they please.

See https://mangadex.org/compliance/terms, particularly paragraph 7. They also added the (Social Network) tag at the end of paragraph 7, but it's unclear what that means.