Akuyaku Reijou no Oyome-sama - Vol. 3 Ch. 14

[dumbziri]

Her story technically contradicts chapter 4 pages 12-13

This bit is interesting because they're even wearing different outfits in each sisters version of events.

 

[BrotherCoa]

Daww... Look how cute and happy they both are. Truly a bliss...

And the comments... Wow... People are really felling judgemental today armite. Easy to blaim sicly girl who has no authority than to simply accept that she cares but was never able to do much about it.

I mean, its logical why things ended up as they were and Aurora and Kaina are the least to blaim. First of all Aurora was very sickly, her parents were overprotective and especially Karina and on top of that her family has literally no influence at all. So she speaking her mind to anyone other than Karina would be taken like a mere peasant speaking to the king.

And Karina is to blaim for that partially. She overprotected Aurora, didn't tell her to think a bit of herself instead to constantly cling to her and never helped her to build self confidence, but was always there to take the blaim and cover for her.

The way story goes it will be Aurora who will break the ice, now that she is older and has a bit of authority she can finally make things right.

Only thing that is unknown is how Karina got such bad rumors. But seeing how down the line her family is I would not be suprised if most high nobles were jelaous and set her up. Seeing how passive she is the plan was not that hard to enact. I am also sure that prince hates her as well.

In any case, people need to judge less and enjoy the story more. It should get more interesting from here on now that Nana is also in the game.

 

[UdenEmpati]

I’m not interested in criticizing whatever “whitewashing” they’re doing, nor am I going to say that’s a super great or original idea whatsoever. However I do like to wonder what is about to happen and what is actually the case.

In this chapter, we found out that Aurora genuinely loves her sister, but that is to be expected. She had no reason to resent her, nor does she have to envy her for taking the wedding spot. This chapter confirmed what we already knew, which is that Aurora is a weak person. No shame in saying that, and it doesn’t excuse her actions, but it does make sense in context.

A very interesting thing in this chapter is that we found out that despite being royalty, this branch of the family is much weaker than we initially believed. That may explain the necessity of the arranged marriage with that prince, because being in a part of a family meant sharing power and keeping the blood of the family alive, which is extremely beneficial for such a family. We can see that even their parents believe that Aurora staying instead of attending the marriage is good for her, which further proves my point that it’s a typical “one sacrifices for all” situation, and if they had been in the dark, they still would be happy in a way, similar to what Eve had heard from her wife.

And … despite the more recent criticism the development has received, I am very much looking forward to the next chapter. Not only because the sisters might have a genuine conversation, but also because we might see Aurora take that step towards becoming an independent person who can do things and desire for herself once more, just like that moment when she decided to go with Karina for a walk and encountered the rain (bad example, I know, but that proved how she showed she can do what she wanted for herself after knowing the truth of marriage, and not being a pushover)

(Also, this might just be wishful thinking, but how the wolfkin works in their tribes may put a great wedge in the kingdom royalty/loyalty system as a whole. The humans gain power through family ties, and the wolves acquire power via raw power, so if at war, both will be challenged significantly.)

And thanks for the translation! This is still good content! I’ll be eagerly waiting for Karina’s reappearance!

I like that it's all internally consistent, as well as "meta consistent":

- we get the other side of the Karina / Aurora backstory, and a lot of the blank spaces are filled in with regards to Aurora's behavior and Karina's apparent "innate softness" (like why her revenge tour was so seemingly lackluster).

But, we also get another perspective to add to the list, and I'd argue it recontextualizes a lot of Karina's story to date. Even down to how Karina and Aurora were dressed in their respective recollections of the same scenes.

But we also knew from the start that the Crocus family was chosen by the Crown specifically because of their relative neutrality within the web of noble politics in that kingdom. So knowing the Crocus family was also in dire straits explains some of the parents' stress over the engagement in general, whether it was with Karina or Aurora.

They also seem to have some notion of what the Crown is like--her mother being so emotional over Karina being picked over *Aurora, it's clear this engagement would indeed mean the chosen daughter was "sacrificed" to the Crown for the sake of the rest of the family.

I'm not certain if the parents truly favored Aurora over Karina, or if they simply believed Aurora was too weak and sickly, and were grateful the "stronger daughter" would become queen.
It could be a case of favoritism, but I'd argue it's just as likely they knew they were losing a daughter either way, and that Karina would better survive in the palace and would at least stand a better chance on her own and they could rest easier this way.

I'm super into this story too, though. I've just learned to ignore the comment sections here for the most part; I enjoy the series all the more that way, and I look forward to witnessing Karina's further deterioration.

 

[llde]

That is just an assumption by Karina. Even she initially thought she was just mistaken as a poacher. In this story I wouldn't assume anything we only have one perspective on to be objectively true, especially when that perspective is Karina's.

I'll admit that it is true that regarding her revenge it is important what she thought had happened though.

We had confirmation Orlando sent them, and he discussed it in Aurora's presence. How much Aurora knew about this and if she agreed to, it's not known (it may as well be she learned about it too late and had no way to convince him otherwise)

 

[RozemynePower]

Mother's tears could be interpreted both ways I guess. It could be tears of happiness because Aurora will be safe or it could be tears of sadness because they had to sacrifice Karina. I'm leaning towards her being sad for Karina and acting strong for Aurora though.

I do understand Aurora's position but having her as a little sister would be annoying, yeah being a responsible older sister is important but Karina was mistreated in her family. I just hope she doesn't forgive Aurora in one chapter. She has years of resentment and it should not go away quickly.

 

[UdenEmpati]

We had confirmation Orlando sent them, and he discussed it in Aurora's presence. How much Aurora knew about this and if she agreed to, it's not known (it may as well be she learned about it too late and had no way to convince him otherwise)

The original commenter was specifically complaining about Karina not going further in her revenge given assassins were sent after her.

The context of the reply you responded to was clarifying that Karina actually didn't even know they were assasssins at first.

It was about Karina's perspective of things, specifically, not whether the actual event was true based on what we the readers have been shown.

 

[UdenEmpati]

Mother's tears could be interpreted both ways I guess. It could be tears of happiness because Aurora will be safe or it could be tears of sadness because they had to sacrifice Karina. I'm leaning towards her being sad for Karina and acting strong for Aurora though.

I do understand Aurora's position but having her as a little sister would be annoying, yeah being a responsible older sister is important but Karina was mistreated in her family. I just hope she doesn't forgive Aurora in one chapter. She has years of resentment and it should not go away quickly.

Karina having conflicting feelings upon talking with Aurora would escalate conflict with Reshutoka, though, which would push their shared arc along.

I agree instant forgiveness would feel cheap, but I don't expect that to happen--but I do think Karina will be in even more turmoil in the wake of Aurora's reveal, rather than outright rejection or denial--which should heighten the tension for Princess and Monster.

 

[3turtlesinacoat]

Her story technically contradicts chapter 4 pages 12-13.

Also, Karina still did nothing wrong. The attempts to make up shit to justify her sister's actions are getting silly.

I dont quite see how it does, am i missing something?

 

[Prismatic-chan]

did any of you consider the option that she might just be lying?
i don't trust Aurora.

 

[dokidoki]

We had confirmation Orlando sent them, and he discussed it in Aurora's presence. How much Aurora knew about this and if she agreed to, it's not known (it may as well be she learned about it too late and had no way to convince him otherwise)

Don't try to argue with them, they are trying to gaslight others into bullshit just like the author

In ch 1 she gets hit by an arrow and so she believes assassins are after her, in ch 2 they ONCE again try killing MC with arrows to the point where wolfy had to tackle her to save her, MC even goes "could it be...from yesterday" telling us it could be the same assassins from the day before and then goes on to tell wolfy to watch out because they are SKILLED assassins and Wolfy then mentions how no human could be a match for them

So yea they are assassins and so along with your statement of the prince etc it just goes to show there's alot of people trying to gaslight others in here into trying to tell them this series is actually better then what it is and its not

 

[zips]

I just hope Aurora gets a wife out of this too

like c'mon

beastkin scribe girl and her wife and Aurora all go to the north and have some conflict with Karina but then Aurora gets a wife too and then they all go kick the prince's butt together, that would be absolute cinema

 

[beThereShortly]

Given the sister is supposedly innocent, and she was just involved with everything as him, I could see them also having a bunch of bullshit excuses, something like he asked the sister a bunch of escalating questions starting from "did she come in your place because she bullied you?" and the "silence" when she gets flustered having him convinced that the girl being silent and uncomfortable at these questions only led him to believe it as truth solely based on her discomfort of the topics until he was mistaken into thinking MC was the devil incarnate. After all, the sister said she'd take over the "elimination" of MC from the prince, and we're apparently now meant to believe she's a good person, so why couldn't that bullshit work for him merely trying to believe hes removing a threat against the women he loves.

Seeing how the prince behaved every time we've seen him so far, it's not too far to imagine him beeing a domeneering person who only values the sister as long as she fits his image of a perfect "good girl" (i.e. obedient, flatering, etc.).
If that were the case, the sisters playing along with the role imposed on her notably by playing into the prince's own words by saying she'll carry out the "elimination" (something the prince was already in the process in organising, it wasn't her idea) is a good idea on her part. It would show that she's kinda smart and is able to play the prince for the fool he is.

I don't understand the frustration in this thread with the idea that the sister isn't evil. All we've seen before was the biased accounts of the MC. Who clearly didn't love the prince and didn't like her station in life as his consort.
It's not too far to imagine that the sister was trying to take her place as the prince's fiance to "give her back her freedom". Which the MC misenterpreted, having grown appart from her sister and (rightfully) ressenting her for beeing forced into the big sister role by her (awfull) parents.

I'm okay with this direction the story is taking. All I'm hoping is that the prince gets exposed as an even bigger asshole.
Fuck it, throw the parents under the bus too. They kinda deserve it.

 

[kiero13]

I am all for sisterhood route i dont care about the romance at all i hope the misunderstandings get cleared and the sisters, or at least karina, be able to love each other 😭

 

[llde]

The original commenter was specifically complaining about Karina not going further in her revenge given assassins were sent after her.

The context of the reply you responded to was clarifying that Karina actually didn't even know they were assasssins at first.

It was about Karina's perspective of things, specifically, not whether the actual event was true based on what we the readers have been shown.

them being assassins is the only thing that make sense in that context however. Karina may not be absolutely sure the got sent by the crown but even that is a reasonable assumption.

 

[UdenEmpati]

them being assassins is the only thing that make sense in that context however. Karina may not be absolutely sure the got sent by the crown but even that is a reasonable assumption.

Sure - that just wasn't the focus of the initial comment or the first response that you had in turn replied to, is my point.

 

[Jackal-Lantern]

In any case, people need to judge less and enjoy the story more. It should get more interesting from here on now that Nana is also in the game.

I'd enjoy the story more if it were logically consistent instead of constantly tripping over itself trying to cover for a character's actions and inadequacies. At that point, it's a mess rather than a fun and engaging story. But more power to you and anyone who enjoy it; just don't expect others to enjoy it when there's so many blaring and critical issues. It's as condescending as this story tries to be.

 

[UdenEmpati]

I'd enjoy the story more if it were logically consistent instead of constantly tripping over itself trying to cover for a character's actions and inadequacies. At that point, it's a mess rather than a fun and engaging story. But more power to you and anyone who enjoy it; just don't expect others to enjoy it when there's so many blaring and critical issues. It's as condescending as this story tries to be.

Better to be sanctimonious with your victimized complaints about a story no one's forcing you to engage with, yes.

 

[Jackal-Lantern]

Better to be sanctimonious with your victimized complaints about a story no one's forcing you to engage with, yes.

Where did I ever act like a victim for reading this story? Where did my complaints ever take on a victimized tone as if I'm forced to read it?

 

[dokidoki]

Where did I ever act like a victim for reading this story? Where did my complaints ever take on a victimized tone as if I'm forced to read it?

This individual has been trying to defend this series with their lives by replying to anyone being negative about the series as if a series can't have any issues by just being poor writing in general

"You can't complain about slop, please just enjoy poor writing" - says them defenders of poor story

So yea better to not engage with them

 

[UdenEmpati]

This individual has been trying to defend this series with their lives by replying to anyone being negative about the series as if a series can't have any issues by just being poor writing in general

"You can't complain about slop, please just enjoy poor writing" - says them defenders of poor story

So yea better to not engage with them

I'd give you more credit for criticisms of the series if your arguments weren't so seemingly biased because you don't personally approve of what the author is going for.

If you want a clear-cut protagonist/villain dynamic where information isn't hidden or skewed by the perspective of the characters relating it as a main aspect of the narrative, then I do agree that this series isn't likely to be enjoyable for you.

But I've yet to see a complaint or critique you've made that is an actual fault with the writing, and not just you personally disliking the story's direction or the characters' portrayals.