Rebuild World - Ch. 83

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It's been a while, so I am kinda out of it, but when did Katsuya save the Cyborg guy? Not going to spell his name. She said it was at the Big Walker fight, but that was the only one of the bounty targets we didn't see

The fact that Akira is scared of Shizuka and had to bring backup because he knows he did something that will piss her off is great.
 
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Well when she said "local network" it DID seem literal. So interaction and conditioning with Katsuya creates a sub-calculation network that allows for more direct control of them without straining the resources of the AIs.
 
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Wow, that's a lot of plot going on. :meguu:
Kibayashi the goat.
Noice, we got to see the 3 oneesans again.
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Comrade Nergo, what are you up to with that new guy?
2 of their ai waifus fought over someone hogging all the internet connection.
I know the pain when someone is downloading too much without a speed limit. :pout:
 
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so that subject 498 thinks that Katsuya is a high level old domain user but its actually Akira. Guessing all his "bad luck" and poor reputation is gonna end up shielding him and scapegoating Katsuya instead
To be fair Katsuya is one as well since he does have the loli AI. Just he's much weaker than Akira. 498 thinks there's only one user but he's going to be in for a surprise to find out there's two running around
 
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Ahhh Katsuya's mental manipulation is growing stronger. From what I remember of the WN (before it seemed to go on infinite hiatus ((at least from the english TL team that is)), it gets progressively worse and results in a severe cultish fervor in those around him. Seeing as the manga has moved away from prior WN plot lines, I do wonder how this subject will be handled going forward. I don't remember all the little details but I do remember feeling a bit let down with where it all lead in the WN.
 
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Feels like a bit of an arc bookend, with the author making explicit and bunch of threads that have been fairly clear but still implicit so far, and laying out a bit more hints towards to overall story. While there will be more to come a bunch of the core players are now on the board and starting to slowly circle towards interaction.

In terms of what Alpha is after, seems like the best guess relates back to whatever happened to the previous old world civilization she's from. Based on the security droids we see in the metro and what she says are "non-lethal" (by old human standards) attacks, along with all the hyper advanced technology, it's clearly a big mystery about what the heck could even take out all the people while leaving so many systems heavily intact. The old world humans also pretty clearly had concerns about AIs going rogue, and put significant restrictions on them in terms of how they're allowed to interact via contracts and so on (which Alpha has been able to bypass a certain amount of, though not all, in Akira's case due to his ignorance and disinterest).

All of which points to that the goal here for the Alpha AI series is some sort of root/master node terminal, which she herself (and presumably all other AIs) doesn't have access rights to. Naturally it'll be deep, deep inside the most heavily secured area. And she needs an actual human possessing whatever network terminal genes enable network linking to get the right emergency auth and then go there in the flesh, and then do something with that authority she wants. Exactly what that is is certainly a mystery, but we can infer if nothing else it won't be good for most/all of the humans we see running around. It could be some sort of lifting of all limiters and such on AIs and end of human era thing, but it could also be pro-human... just with a disagreement about who counts as "human". Alpha could be attempting to restore the previous civilization to the world, but that would wipe out everyone "new". She might not even think the current people calling themselves human actually count by her standards, but rather lesser raiders/parasites on the corpse of her civ raiding and thieving.

So Alpha wants a very high skill ceiling connector who also lacks any significant connections to present people and/or with an extremely strong sense around "contracts", and thus won't balk at executing whatever command she's after. She needs them to do it voluntarily on some level too clearly, she can't simultaneously have a support contract and directly mind control them or something.

Feels like some callbacks maybe to the classic scifi manga Blame! An old super civ that has lost it's central command layer leaving automated systems to continue to run but slowly going out of control with the remaining systems not having the rights to fix it themselves. And lots of humans left, but none of them count as "people" to the Safeguard since they lack the function that defines that.
 
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That guy Nergo (previously Cain, from the relic heist in the undercity) was talking to was Alpha's subject 498. He got to the objective then rejected to complete the mission on moral grounds. That is what was revealed here.
How did you get to the conclusion that subject 498 refused to complete the mission on moral grounds?

It seems to me that once he learned what the objective was, he wanted it for himself because of the power it grants.

I really do wonder though how, when he had essentially achieved the objective, Alpha got to prevent him from completing it. I guess just frying his old world connection so he couldn't connect to whatever was the objective.

To be fair, lots of statements by Alpha are very ominous, and she does not seem to have much concern for human life, so it makes sense to consider that it was an ethical issue. But honestly, subject 498 does not seem to be a very ethical person; he had no qualms sending someone to the people from the Rebuild project (another mystery) and that was apparently some horror story.

Subject 498 doesnt seem to be dealt with as Alpha had previously stated
Well, he's still alive, although his old world connection seems to have been severed, and indeed, it appears he still has plans to get to the objective and seems to think he can achieve it. I guess the card replaces the old world connection.

It's been a while, so I am kinda out of it, but when did Katsuya save the Cyborg guy? Not going to spell his name. She said it was at the Big Walker fight, but that was the only one of the bounty targets we didn't see
Well, as you say, we didn't see it; we're not following Katsuya after all, we're following Akira. It's only being revealed here as context.

I think it's alpa herself. Didn't she tell akira that he can have her as to payment for doing what her goal is?
I can't recall how the terms were set, but in the first chapter she informs him he'll receive a valuable old world relic.

Notice that the Drancam rep lady is mostly scared of aknowledging Akira because they've spent so much gassing up Katsuya. Now she's recognizing they possibly bet on the wrong horse and are too deep to pivot.
She couldn't have bet on Akira because he's not part of Drancam and she has no clue who he is. Her faction is betting on Katsuya to gain influence and control all of Drancam, so she's just protecting that investment. Considering that Katsuya can, weakly, connect to the old world, while Akira wasn't even a hunter some time ago (so she couldn't have scouted him even if she wanted to) and that they likely wanted to gain control of Drancam as soon as possible, I really wouldn't say that her judgment was wrong. It's just bad luck.

I mean, it's basically as if you've got a horse race and you bet on a horse, and the race starts but then suddenly a wild horse comes out of nowhere into the race, knocks some other horse out and grabs their jersey, finishes the race first, and gets declared the winner because why not.

All of which points to that the goal here for the Alpha AI series is some sort of root/master node terminal, which she herself (and presumably all other AIs) doesn't have access rights to. Naturally it'll be deep, deep inside the most heavily secured area. And she needs an actual human possessing whatever network terminal genes enable network linking to get the right emergency auth and then go there in the flesh, and then do something with that authority she wants. Exactly what that is is certainly a mystery, but we can infer if nothing else it won't be good for most/all of the humans we see running around. It could be some sort of lifting of all limiters and such on AIs and end of human era thing, but it could also be pro-human... just with a disagreement about who counts as "human". Alpha could be attempting to restore the previous civilization to the world, but that would wipe out everyone "new". She might not even think the current people calling themselves human actually count by her standards, but rather lesser raiders/parasites on the corpse of her civ raiding and thieving.

So Alpha wants a very high skill ceiling connector who also lacks any significant connections to present people and/or with an extremely strong sense around "contracts", and thus won't balk at executing whatever command she's after. She needs them to do it voluntarily on some level too clearly, she can't simultaneously have a support contract and directly mind control them or something.
Well, the thing with Alpha, and other AI running off the same hardware, is that they don't have any way of interacting physically with the world. Whatever hardware she's running on, should eventually fall in disrepair.

So perhaps the objective is to gain access to the control system for all cybernetic life forms (monsters) which are currently running amok. In essence, whoever gains control of this system would have an army of monsters at their beck and call. No idea what Alpha would do with that power once obtained though.

How exactly does the loli AI plan to achieve anything with her connection to Katsuya is a mystery to me.

Also, I'm very confused by the fact the the AI conversations are apparently bleeding into the dreams of their contractors and the AIs are unaware of it.
 
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Smal Alpha said it, Katsuya is connecting to the people around him. Until know he was projecting an aura of being super skilled but now he's starting to actively connect with people around him. Yumina not being part of that network yet may be due to her repeated contacts with Akira and since she's under the influence of both of them, they each interfere with each other which makes her uniquely objective.
Yumina getting mad at Katsuya one day, leaves his harem and moves in with Akira but wait! He has Sheryl! How will she react to this? Well, she can't say no to Akira, but how will Akira react to it all then? Will Alpha have to come up with some solution for a perfect harem plan or will Akira have to escape to the wilderness in search for an easier to win battle and leave the girls to make up on their own?
Sheryl when? Where? Is she even alive? I feel it's been years.
 
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I'm reasonably confident that Alpha's goal is to make herself human. But the process of doing so is probably incredibly catastrophic and would cause serious devastation, which is why Yanagisawa turned against her.
 

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