Honzuki no Gekokujou: Shisho ni Naru tame ni wa Shudan o Erandeiraremasen—Dai-4 Bu: Kizokuin no Toshokan o Sukuitai! - Ch. 38 - Report and Dinner Par…

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"It wouldn't help in hunting the lord of winter"
Yeah dude, it is almost like the idea is thinking outside the norm and each battle is a different battle or something...
 
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Pretty sure the cheek pinching punishment is because Ferdinand likes Rozemyne's squishy cheeks. :wooow:
From Ferdinand's POV in the LN [P4V9, Epilogue], No real spoilers:

“But this is a rare opportunity for me to be helpful,” Rozemyne protested, disregarding the fact that Ferdinand was trying to be considerate.
Ferdinand reached out and pinched Rozemyne’s cheek. It was much softer than expected, and quite pleasant to the touch. He squeezed harder, practically massaging her face. It was her fault for having such pinchable cheeks.
“That hurtsh!”
 
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Fernindad really did like the royal librarians didn’t he. The dudes really perked up hearing about ditter too. Poor apprentice knights are going to get lots of training.
 
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Fernindad really did like the royal librarians didn’t he. The dudes really perked up hearing about ditter too. Poor apprentice knights are going to get lots of training.
Yes, during his days as a student, Ferdinand stayed as much as possible in the Academy, and he researched a lot. He knew and liked the librarians. He also has plenty of fond memories about duking it out with Dunkelferger.
 
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Looking back from the future.
Eglantine must be very glad she's chosen by Rozemyne.

Even aside from the unconventional wisdom Rozemyne offered.

There's also being given the Zent position.
And the gods 'prefers' the current Rozemyne-induced history they're willing to do divine intervention instead of just reseting the timeline.
 
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Everyone blames Rozemyne for getting dragged along by the upper-ranked duchies and then by the prince, as if she could have avoided it. I always thought this part of the story felt odd. Imo her mistake was standing out, and that's partly Ehrenfest's fault for telling her to raise everyone's grades and to show off Rinsham.

As for the Prince? He made the unreasonable demand for her to stay out of his way in the first place, then got upset when she didn't selectively follow his inconsiderate demand. Yeah, yeah, dealing with Royalty in a [deadly] heirarchy is a pain. But don't blame Rozemyne for that! That's just how the world works, dudes.
The look of Ferdinand when he got told the arch librarians are gone. It actually made him freeze for a second.
God-tier Foreshadowing!
Ferdinand knows what's in the library and how important the Archnoble Librarians are to access it. He's the last living person to access it! That was a "Yurgenschmidt is doomed" flinch!"
 
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Absolutely love that despite everything that’s happened, Sylvester still trusts Myne s judgement in this moment and prioritizes the problems she foresees coming. A lesser aub would be too focused on the fight for the throne but Sylvester is surprisingly flexible

also love grandpa breaking and Ferdinand smiling when Myne explains her strategy. that was definitely a Ferdinand move right there and even grandpa would’ve struggled to respond to it
though his god tier instincts probably would’ve kicked in to save him
God-tier Foreshadowing!
Ferdinand knows what's in the library and how important the Archnoble Librarians are to access it. He's the last living person to access it! That was a "Yurgenschmidt is doomed" flinch!"
hadn’t considered that before but yeah. That’s a huge freaking deal and he probably should’ve done something about it

Everyone blames Rozemyne for getting dragged along by the upper-ranked duchies and then by the prince, as if she could have avoided it. I always thought this part of the story felt odd. Imo her mistake was standing out, and that's partly Ehrenfest's fault for telling her to raise everyone's grades and to show off Rinsham.

As for the Prince? He made the unreasonable demand for her to stay out of his way in the first place, then got upset when she didn't selectively follow his inconsiderate demand. Yeah, yeah, dealing with Royalty in a [deadly] heirarchy is a pain. But don't blame Rozemyne for that! That's just how the world works, dudes.
I’m not sure that’s entirely true. Myne made a series of poor decisions that turned a bad situation into something so much worse than it had to be. Yes part of this is ehrenfests fault for not instructing her more clearly on how to deal with royalty but they had no idea she’d be doing that beyond the simple greeting at the start (which she also messed up). Plus Myne should’ve realized that every interaction with royalty required an immediate letter back home asking for advice.
 
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I’m not sure that’s entirely true. Myne made a series of poor decisions that turned a bad situation into something so much worse than it had to be. Yes part of this is ehrenfests fault for not instructing her more clearly on how to deal with royalty but they had no idea she’d be doing that beyond the simple greeting at the start (which she also messed up). Plus Myne should’ve realized that every interaction with royalty required an immediate letter back home asking for advice.
That's an interesting question. A big part of this dilemma is that Rozemyne does not possess the common sense of Yurgenschmidt Nobility. Time and again she comes up with plans that fly in the face of common sense (according to Ferdinand). And every time it happens he scolds her, corrects her, gets her to reconsider her actions, and she learns a little. That's good!

But then they send her off to the academy, after she spends two years in a jureve, winging it on a rush job of education, and they expected her not to make mistakes due to her lack of common sense? That's at least half on Ferdinand, if not more than half. I'd say that every mistake she makes didn't have a direct lesson on what to do instead in that situation. "Myne should have realized" is kind of like expecting a bear to ride a bike when it finds one in the woods.

What's interesting is that it's not all bad that it works out this way- at many times, Rozemyne's lack of common sense leads her to a better solution than what the orthodox decision would lead to. Including this particular situation. Rozemyne's rude advice to Anastatsius (LN spoilers coming)successfully helps him to marry Eglantine, and ends with him being the least stupid Royal family member. FU, Sigiswald
 
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I like how even Florencia recognized the tactic as being out of the norm. It helps to highlight how prominent treasure stealing ditter was before the civil war
 
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Ferdinand: "What did you do?"
Myne: "Alright...but you can't be mad at me."
Ferdinand: "What did you do?"
Myne: "Alright first...I was minding my own business."
Ferdinand slams table "BULLSHIT!"
Myne: "I waaaaaasssss"
 
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That's an interesting question. A big part of this dilemma is that Rozemyne does not possess the common sense of Yurgenschmidt Nobility. Time and again she comes up with plans that fly in the face of common sense (according to Ferdinand). And every time it happens he scolds her, corrects her, gets her to reconsider her actions, and she learns a little. That's good!

But then they send her off to the academy, after she spends two years in a jureve, winging it on a rush job of education, and they expected her not to make mistakes due to her lack of common sense? That's at least half on Ferdinand, if not more than half. I'd say that every mistake she makes didn't have a direct lesson on what to do instead in that situation. "Myne should have realized" is kind of like expecting a bear to ride a bike when it finds one in the woods.
Ferdinand was certainly in a rush here since mine only woke up a few days/weeks before she had to go to the Royal Academy. Obviously just starting a year later would’ve made a lot more sense for everyone, but it would’ve been a permanent stain on her already severely damaged reputation (don’t forget she was “raised“ in the temple), so Ferdinand did a rush job. He taught her the bare minimum she needs to pass her classes and deal with the very limited amount of socializing she’d have to do before returning for the dedication ritual. Importantly, ehrenfest is ranked incredibly low, so there was almost no chance of having any real interaction with an upper ranked duchy, let alone the royal family, so he took the gamble with seemingly good odds and lost badly

Though again, some of this does come down to her guardians which is exactly why
florencia ends up yelling at them later, since she’s the only one who can see that it really wasn’t mine‘s fault

What's interesting is that it's not all bad that it works out this way- at many times, Rozemyne's lack of common sense leads her to a better solution than what the orthodox decision would lead to. Including this particular situation. Rozemyne's rude advice to Anastatsius (LN spoilers coming)successfully helps him to marry Eglantine, and ends with him being the least stupid Royal family member. FU, Sigiswald
Yes though
sigi still got way too close to the throne and the entire country was quite nearly destroyed. That likely wouldn’t have happened if she’d just picked Anastasius to be the next king, since he’s actually competent
 
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Yes though
sigi still got way too close to the throne and the entire country was quite nearly destroyed. That likely wouldn’t have happened if she’d just picked Anastasius to be the next king, since he’s actually competent
Guys it's LN spoilers. Go read the LN it's so good!
Another interesting turning point! Would making Anastasius Zent have been better? I'm not so sure. Zent here is at best a temporary job, since neither Sigiswald nor Anastasius is omnielemental, and they can't get the true Book of Mestionora. Eglantine is Omni, but due to the timing of her pregnancy, she couldn't get it herself in time to prevent events from happening. Even if one of them had gotten the real book, they would also need to know about the conspiracy with Lanzenave and close the country gate and purge the leadership in Ahrensbach, which they didn't.

I also don't think Sigiswald's proximity to the throne is to blame for Yurgenschimdt's near destruction. The loss of the True Book of Mestionora happened a long time ago, when Rauchelstra made the Fakebook Grußtresheit. The loss of the Fake Grußtrisheit happened when Sigi was still a toddler (Was he even born yet? 🤔). And Raublut's conspiracy with Lanzenave happens independently of either of them ascending. He doesn't respect either of them for Zent. Not noticing Raublut's treachery is more the fault of Traerqual than either of his sons.

All the worst mistakes the Royal Family made were ultimately Trauerqual's. Sending Ferdinand to Ahrensbach. Letting Raublut investigate the trugged knights at the academy, and in Ahrensbach, when Raublut was behind it. Neither Sigi or Ana were able to spot it.

I don't see any moment where a Zent Anastasius could have prevented things from going the way they did. Unless you are remembering something I forgot?
 

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