Misato-san wa Amasugi Joushi ni Chotto Kibishii - Vol. 6 Ch. 41

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Oh, so his ex is just a bitch.

Makes more sense now

Edit- I'm gonna catch flak for it. Half of growing up is figuring out "no, I don't have to interact with you. It's simply not worth it." Or doing the opposite when the relationship is worthwhile.

Childish bickering like this AFTER a breakup is NOT healthy. They both need to move on.

Edit2- oh jesus I don't check the forums for like a week and people have their panties in a twist lmao. This is funny.
 
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Oh, so his ex is just a bitch.

Makes more sense now

Edit- I'm gonna catch flak for it. Half of growing up is figuring out "no, I don't have to interact with you. It's simply not worth it." Or doing the opposite when the relationship is worthwhile.

Childish bickering like this AFTER a breakup is NOT healthy. They both need to move on.
Idk man I feel like your husband neglecting you to the point of divorce is a solid enough reason to not be amicable even years later. It's not like she did anything malicious enough to be labeled a bitch, and even gave him advice. A little bit of "bickering" seems reasonable when this is someone she loved who hurt her. Konishikawa is likable now, but the author has made it pretty clear he was a great businessman not a great guy when he was younger.
 
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Oh, so his ex is just a bitch.

Makes more sense now

Edit- I'm gonna catch flak for it. Half of growing up is figuring out "no, I don't have to interact with you. It's simply not worth it." Or doing the opposite when the relationship is worthwhile.

Childish bickering like this AFTER a breakup is NOT healthy. They both need to move on.

I can kind of see where she is coming from: she was hurt VERY deeply by him and the way he acted. Then he just turned around, walked away, and said "no" like he had nothing more to say to her ever again...it makes sense why she would hold it all against him.

She loved him which was obvious, and honestly I suspect he loved her very much too. He may have just made some shit decisions about his career and ended up hurting her without meaning to. They were engaged which means they had some mutual feelings of love. I do feel like a person could just shut down when told the things she said because no matter what you say it won't change anything. He must have resigned himself to this being the end and didn't even think to fight for their relationship because he just felt with those words it was all hopeless. Although, who knows if she would have been interested to continue if they had hashed it out in the end.

It has been painted, though, that he was not very articulate with his words and feelings when he was younger. As well, he was all career focused and neglected himself and those around him. He has mellowed with age and took what she said to heart because he knew it was a pretty accurate representation of him.

To be fair, I actually do hope that their paths will cross again so they can have a legitimate mature conversation without biting words and get the closure they both actually need.
 
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I can kind of see where she is coming from: she was hurt VERY deeply by him and the way he acted. Then he just turned around, walked away, and said "no" like he had nothing more to say to her ever again...it makes sense why she would hold a grudge against him.

To be fair, I actually do hope that their paths will cross again so they can have a legitimate mature conversation without biting words and get the closure they both actually need.
If he didn't have anything to say to her, he wouldn't have wasted a couple decades of his life over her words.
 
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I get what the author is going for here, but this is VASTLY under playing the power of "words". It's never "just words" or "it's your fault for actually caring about what I said and being hurt." They very easily can be a curse and people have to take responsibility for what they say. You shouldn't hold on to cruel words for that long, but that's far easier said than done. The reality is that humans are very emotional creatures and it's honestly fascinating how easily we hang on to what we hear. The internet wouldn't be such a hellscape if people didn't fall for misinformation so easily and have a hard time accepting it's not true, or if they didn't get riled up by random BS insults online. And that's just from literal faceless strangers; of course it's going to hurt for a long time and it's going to be a curse that impacts all future relationships when someone as close as a freaking fiancé says you don't love anyone and don't have the right to love anyone. If you do happen to meet up again and that crap is brought up, an apology or just admitting it was said in the heat of the moment and wasn't meant would actually mean a LOT. Seriously it's frustrating. This chapter is trying to paint it as, "It's all in the past; just move on." as if it's that easy, but it's also doing this while making it clear to us as readers that the ex-fiancé does regret her words. It's like the worst of both worlds. Choosing to move past a bad exchange with someone or avoid them is fine. Meeting one last time to make amends and close old wounds is great. Doing freaking neither while simultaneously doing both is the worst. The message here just comes off as communication being for losers.
 
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Wow... not ony she refuses to take any accountability for her "parting words" and acts like being hurt by it is his own fault, but she keeps trying to stir shit up during the entire chapter, like hoping to see him break or get mad...

She's right on one thing tho : hopefully we never see her ever again !! (spits)

(But damn : Boss man looks like a freaking hunk when his face is all serious... no homo.)

Having lost about a decade of my life to depression following a hurtful break up,

Fuck off, bitch. Words hurt like nothing else.

Stay strong, Brother 🍺
 
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I get what the author is going for here, but this is VASTLY under playing the power of "words". It's never "just words" or "it's your fault for actually caring about what I said and being hurt." They very easily can be a curse and people have to take responsibility for what they say. You shouldn't hold on to cruel words for that long, but that's far easier said than done. The reality is that humans are very emotional creatures and it's honestly fascinating how easily we hang on to what we hear. The internet wouldn't be such a hellscape if people didn't fall for misinformation so easily and have a hard time accepting it's not true, or if they didn't get riled up by random BS insults online. And that's just from literal faceless strangers; of course it's going to hurt for a long time and it's going to be a curse that impacts all future relationships when someone as close as a freaking fiancé says you don't love anyone and don't have the right to love anyone. If you do happen to meet up again and that crap is brought up, an apology or just admitting it was said in the heat of the moment and wasn't meant would actually mean a LOT. Seriously it's frustrating. This chapter is trying to paint it as, "It's all in the past; just move on." as if it's that easy, but it's also doing this while making it clear to us as readers that the ex-fiancé does regret her words. It's like the worst of both worlds. Choosing to move past a bad exchange with someone or avoid them is fine. Meeting one last time to make amends and close old wounds is great. Doing freaking neither while simultaneously doing both is the worst. The message here just comes off as communication being for losers.
The way the ex fiancée justified herself is very realistic for the exact reasons you posted which is why I love this. It kinda sucks for storytelling because readers always prefer seeing people make progress, grow, and become better people but that’s not how it always happens. The ex fiancée is still immature with how she lashes out again but at the same time it shows just how strongly that relationship affected her. It’s seriously hard to just simply say I’m sorry because of all the emotion baggage made extra heavy with the amount of time that passed. Add that to how they were in the middle of a public space, probably the worst place to have a proper conversation to untangle everything. Honestly well done chapter, that just won’t sit well with most reader unfortunately lol
 
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Idk man I feel like your husband neglecting you to the point of divorce is a solid enough reason to not be amicable even years later. It's not like she did anything malicious enough to be labeled a bitch, and even gave him advice. A little bit of "bickering" seems reasonable when this is someone she loved who hurt her. Konishikawa is likable now, but the author has made it pretty clear he was a great businessman not a great guy when he was younger.
Not being amicable is more than fine. Also I'm not sure they ever got married. The problem is that they really didn't bicker here. Konishikawa barely said anything and she mostly went on her own little insult parade. The worst part was her whole monologue trying to absolve herself of any responsibility for what she said in the past (again before he could even finish his sentence). It simply was executed very very poorly unless the goal is to make her look like a monster, which I don't think it was as her inner monologue had her acknowledging her own faults. A nicer ending would've been if she just said that out loud. A fine ending would have been if she cut out the entire monologue saying it's his problem that her words hurt him (if words meant so little to people and were so easy to get over, we wouldn't be human) and just said that closing line of how there's no need for either of them to apologize (which is still dumb, closure is important). This was like the most unhealthy exchange ever and most of it was her just acting bitter while also saying she doesn't care anymore. The advice comes off poorly because of that as well. The author just didn't balance the dialogue well this chapter. Misato is panicked and saying nothing, Konishikawa is shocked and mostly giving one line responses, and then the ex-fiancé goes off on her own switching from cold to cruel to uncaring-but-slightly-wants-them-to-be-happy-tsun-tsun. If this was animated I'd probably laugh at the pacing.
 
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that's ''woman'' moment right there

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The way the ex fiancée justified herself is very realistic for the exact reasons you posted which is why I love this. It kinda sucks for storytelling because readers always prefer seeing people make progress, grow, and become better people but that’s not how it always happens. The ex fiancée is still immature with how she lashes out again but at the same time it shows just how strongly that relationship affected her. It’s seriously hard to just simply say I’m sorry because of all the emotion baggage made extra heavy with the amount of time that passed. Add that to how they were in the middle of a public space, probably the worst place to have a proper conversation to untangle everything. Honestly well done chapter, that just won’t sit well with most reader unfortunately lol
This isn't real life though. The author made decisions that wouldn't occur in real life which just executed the chapter horribly in a way that satisfies no one. If the goal was the "People can't easily communicate and there's a lot of undertone." Then don't give the readers the characters inner thoughts. That's not necessary and do you know how stupid real life would be if we had to experience everyone's contradictions in real time due to mind reading?

I hate these types of excuses for bad writing because I don't think you buy it yourself. The problem isn't that she's acting like someone would in reality. The problem is that the author deliberately chose to hodgepodge different storytelling methods together that don't blend. It doesn't have to be bad for readers. Like I said the execution is what's terrible. The author could've chosen to use the last chapter to show how she's a kind person at heart (to strangers), used Konishikawa's line about how she's changed to subtly tell us readers that she has matured more since they broke off their engagement, and have her say some harsh remarks with a bit of advice at the end to push him into a new relationship. Having her thoughts just comes off as the author not trusting the readers and trying to get some free sympathies for the side character we'll probably never meet again while also not acknowledging how that contrast would just make her look worse. The really unnecessarily long ass monologue of her explaining in detail why the traumatic moment we readers keep seeing flashbacks to after Konishikawa didn't even finish his line was just dumb. They supposedly haven't met again and it's been decades. She's not even acting like a person there, but a very convenient plot device to say exactly what's needed (what the author thinks is needed) to get over the recent hurdle of him knowing Misato likes him but being unable to think he's worth being liked. If someone acted like the ex-fiancé did in real life I'd put them in a psychiatric ward, if someone acted like the ex-fiancé did in real life and I could read their mind I'd put myself in a psychiatric ward, and if I noticed how convenient it was that she said the exact words that the guy she hasn't met for decades needed to hear because he had been mulling over what she said decades ago without him even being able to say anything to express that he'd spent the last 20 years cursed by those words (like seriously where the hell did she even get that, has she been stalking him?) then I'd jump off the nearest cliff to prove if I was or wasn't in a simulation.
 
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