Misato-san wa Amasugi Joushi ni Chotto Kibishii - Vol. 6 Ch. 41

[Sekraan]

Idk man I feel like your husband neglecting you to the point of divorce is a solid enough reason to not be amicable even years later. It's not like she did anything malicious enough to be labeled a bitch, and even gave him advice. A little bit of "bickering" seems reasonable when this is someone she loved who hurt her. Konishikawa is likable now, but the author has made it pretty clear he was a great businessman not a great guy when he was younger.

Yuko is Konishikawa's ex-fiancée. It sounds like Konishikawa's father objected to the match, and Konishikawa acquiesced and cancelled the engagement despite not wanting to do so. That's the source of Yuko's grievance.

She said some hurtful things as they parted and instead of engaging with her to get some sort of closure he seems to have disassociated and left in silence, while also internalizing her remarks.

Basically, both of them were making poor decisions in the moment, and the wound is too painful for them to try and address it in the present.

 

[Mangamoz]

Well, we finally got the "main villain" of the story. Sort of.

 

[draxdeveloper]

People are not getting what happened here.
Both sides can't get over the past, and both sides are being negatively affected by said past.

 

[jak]

Is ex comes off as nothing, but a B.I.T.C.H.

 

[ItsThatBriGuy]

People are not getting what happened here.
Both sides can't get over the past, and both sides are being negatively affected by said past.

Literacy? Engagement with the material as it is? In my Mangadex forums???

 

[dbzclamp]

And those 2 decades is not something that she would be aware of, unless he put into words. Or rather, she did not know his feelings because he did not say them.

If she'd stopped cutting him off the moment he started talking and let him get a word in, she would know.

 

[Kaarme]

People are not getting what happened here.
Both sides can't get over the past, and both sides are being negatively affected by said past.

She got over it as well as anyone is supposed to: She got another marriage and a child. Konishikawa, however, apparently required two decades to reform himself into a human and then this last kick in his ass to finally even consider the possibility of moving forward.

I don't know why anyone would call Yuko a bitch when she's the only reason Konishikawa could actually become a human after his robot past and now she even made it possible for him to, perhaps, enter a happy romantic relationship. Yuko is basically a saintess.

 

[Vikingix]

Wow, bitch, vilain, I don't see why focusing only on her with such harsh words.

They were actually both wrong there, with some kind of immaturity. And the most hard it was, the more pain it will make you bear your whole life. Nobody is a villain, a bitch or an asshole. They just made huge mystakes, which can happen to anybody.

Both still haven't went trough it in their own way. While she knows she was herself wrong, she couldn't keep from being agressive years after. And himself still haven't been able to love again.

I really hope they'll meet again, with a nicer attitude, both having threw away this in the past. Thay'd both feel much better.

 

[UncleKaos]

well she didn't get over the breakover after so long. damn. i do get why she is angry but to carry that grudge SO long. but good thing she is the kind who is into "out of sight out of mind" thing than letting him live rentfree inside her head.

 

[Rafalga]

lol the ex's butthurt burns bright even after all these years. Imagine hitting to your 50s without ever growing one inch for 3 decades straight. Not even after having a family of your own.

 

[Kagimizu]

People aren't wrong in stating the power of words, but let's be honest here; his fiance isn't wrong either. Those words clearly impacted him and made him change, but his dismissive "that's not your concern anymore" was just brimming with barely-concealed hostility. His father might be a sore point for him, but that reaction suggests that he hasn't made as complete a change as we might have been led to believe. More than that, there is the simple fact that he has always had a choice.

He claims he "doesn't deserve to love" after what happened, but all that really does is put the blame on his fiance. Like she said, he's the one who has refused to well and truly face himself after... Almost twenty years now? Trauma is trauma, yes. But he's still a grown adult who has repeatedly chosen to run away from any prospect of romance ever since. By all indications he's never even tried after what happened with his fiance. And that's ultimately on him. Because however painful a trauma, what we do with it is what defines us. What he's chosen to do is essentially to wallow in it, using his mistakes as a justification to never move on and try again.

And in her own bitter way, I feel like the fiance is kind of trying to help. Her internal monologue shows that deep down she was hurting from the emotional neglect and unable to face those feelings properly, so she lashed out at him in the process. Calling him out on letting those words define him for all those years since is probably the closest thing to a kindness she can afford him. Because remember: the characters do not see what we see. She hasn't seen just how much he's changed since then or how he treats the people around him. She only met him again for not even thirty minutes, during which he was just as frigid towards her as she was towards him. So to her, even with the FMC's account, he's still that uncaring callous jerk who neglected her and then just walked away.

It's my take that the author isn't understating the impact of words, but is also establishing that this guy has also been wrong to allow those words to shackle him in place for so long. That in using his "sins" as a reason to never allow someone to get close, he's in fact once more hurting someone close to him. Which multiple other people have called him out for. At the end of the day, as his ex-wife said, he needs to genuinely face himself and what he did, and come to terms with it.

 

[outinthegardener]

Behind the trauma is miscommunication! Behind the miscommunication is toxic stoicism. Behind the toxic stoicism is shitty parents browbeating you with filial piety! All wrapped up in two people who hold a grudge for decades because they don't have emotional intelligence.

Run, Misato, run! You just caught a glimpse under the hood and it's all burning oil and mouse nests.

 

[Papa420]

Thanks for translation

 

[C0wsgoquack]

Besides the "you don't deserve to be loved" comment, it feels like her younger self had way sounder arguments and more valid complaints. It's like she lost maturity with age lol

 

[Magnus_Prime]

I get what the author is going for here, but this is VASTLY under playing the power of "words". It's never "just words" or "it's your fault for actually caring about what I said and being hurt." They very easily can be a curse and people have to take responsibility for what they say. You shouldn't hold on to cruel words for that long, but that's far easier said than done. The reality is that humans are very emotional creatures and it's honestly fascinating how easily we hang on to what we hear. The internet wouldn't be such a hellscape if people didn't fall for misinformation so easily and have a hard time accepting it's not true, or if they didn't get riled up by random BS insults online. And that's just from literal faceless strangers; of course it's going to hurt for a long time and it's going to be a curse that impacts all future relationships when someone as close as a freaking fiancé says you don't love anyone and don't have the right to love anyone. If you do happen to meet up again and that crap is brought up, an apology or just admitting it was said in the heat of the moment and wasn't meant would actually mean a LOT. Seriously it's frustrating. This chapter is trying to paint it as, "It's all in the past; just move on." as if it's that easy, but it's also doing this while making it clear to us as readers that the ex-fiancé does regret her words. It's like the worst of both worlds. Choosing to move past a bad exchange with someone or avoid them is fine. Meeting one last time to make amends and close old wounds is great. Doing freaking neither while simultaneously doing both is the worst. The message here just comes off as communication being for losers.

Were we to acknowledge the power that words can have on people, more women would have to take responsibility (since that is their primary strength); that is where the roadblock lies.

 

[huntercheco]

At last we get a clearer picture of their past (a lot tamer than I imagined) and we may not get more context about it so that's what we have to work with. Time for Konishikawa to face his past and really move forward

 

[Sloppysloth]

Ex is just jealous he got a younger woman better than her

 

[CurlyBruce]

I'm shocked they actually leaned more heavily in the "mature adult" spectrum of how this drama could play out though there was that obvious pettiness and vitriol you'd come to expect for melodrama.

The bigger concern is how many people are using this opportunity to go mask off and reveal their inherent misogyny in the comments which is a bit of a collar tugging moment. They both fucked up and have legitimate reasons to still be bitter about what happened in the past and it isn't like Yuko slinged mud at him and then walked off expecting him to chase her. She lashed out and then immediately asked for a comeback, ANY sort of response and he couldn't do it because he genuinely wasn't invested which was her entire point.

All the people calling her a bitch or saying "it was HER fault" are baffling. Both parties made mistakes but to frame this as her not being able to accept that Konishikawa has grown is purposefully misrepresenting her attitude in the present. She's still angry and would rather not interact with him ever again due to past grudges but it isn't like she wishes he would never be happy again and even points out that he has grown as no subordinate of his ever called him "wonderful" before and that he needs to be careful and not fuck it up with Misato. She even didn't let him pass the buck to her with the nonsense "You said I was never allowed to love" excuse he loves using so much to run away from his current potential love with Misato. He was using his ex-fiancee as a crutch to avoid the conversation he absolutely needs to have and she basically slapped that shit down.

If she truly hated him she would not have given him any advice. She recognized her own faults so she isn't oblivious to her part in things but she's well within her rights to be resentful and not want to interact with him anymore than she has to just as Konishikawa is well within his rights to shut down any conversations regarding his Father when she brought it up. She's a pretty great character and I actually hope we get to see more of her and maybe they can both grow past their bitterness and at least be cordial. She was a desperately needed dose of reality for Konishikawa to stop using the past as an excuse.

 

[Nightazakus]

I don’t get any attention from women either but some of yall seem to hate women. Both people aren’t right but he is infinitely more problematic, he basically had minimal development in the last 20 yrs. What if this happy go lucky version of him is ultimately just another mask like his old self?

It’s not her fault he is emotionally closed off to everyone. What she said is extremely hurtful but she is right.

 

[lolfacesayshi]

Leaving them alone was possibly the worst move, wow!

I can kind of see where she is coming from: she was hurt VERY deeply by him and the way he acted. Then he just turned around, walked away, and said "no" like he had nothing more to say to her ever again...it makes sense why she would hold it all against him.

What could he have said that wouldn't be an excuse? And he fully accepts the blame, with how she feels then and now, what could he have said after reaching that point?

He claims he "doesn't deserve to love" after what happened, but all that really does is put the blame on his fiance. Like she said, he's the one who has refused to well and truly face himself after... Almost twenty years now? Trauma is trauma, yes. But he's still a grown adult who has repeatedly chosen to run away from any prospect of romance ever since. By all indications he's never even tried after what happened with his fiance. And that's ultimately on him. Because however painful a trauma, what we do with it is what defines us. What he's chosen to do is essentially to wallow in it, using his mistakes as a justification to never move on and try again.

How is him internalizing that "curse" be taken as him putting the blame on her? He clearly blames himself first and foremost, because he accepts that he was the wrong party in the situation. And he's shown with his actions towards others over the decades that he keeps it as a lesson, and tries to avoid other people from overwork and neglecting their personal life.

I'd get "just move on" as a valid take if their breakup didn't include such a direct, harsh admonishment as "you do not deserve love", because the unspoken condition of "so long as you put your work ahead of your love" went unspoken. And then what does she say to him? "Oh don't listen to me, the person you love enough to hold the last exchange you had with to heart for decades, and do whatever with your life."... despite her also still holding on to the bitterness of her disappointment for the same amount of years.