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1-nen A-gumi no Monster - Vol. 4 Ch. 20 - Sensei, do you know what black lilies represent?
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This manga is like a fever dream
I can't remember shit about it and even if I did, I think I'll be as lost as I al right now
I can't remember shit about it and even if I did, I think I'll be as lost as I al right now
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So this is based on a heartbreak story and girls that have their heads so far up their butts that their just as broken as mental patients?
Sorry, that's women for everyone. The crazy ones at least.
Sorry, that's women for everyone. The crazy ones at least.
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Cuthburt here, with your daily dose of Japanese Anthropology! First of all, I highly recommend everyone read Ruth Benedict's The Chrysanthemum and the Sword, OG publication was in 1946 but a lot of elements about Japan are still very relevant today.
So, to answer some questions. First: Why are all the psychopaths in the same class?
Japanese schools often lump all problem children into one class, and let the teacher they dislike the most deal with that class. This is due in large to the belief that, by sequestering problem children away from the remainder of the classes, children won't be corrupted. It also allows one teacher (who, as mentioned, is often times the most disliked teacher) to monitor all the problem children without the job needing to be split across classrooms. In general, no teacher believes they can fix problem/broken children.
Second: Not exactly mentioned, but the abrupt "yea I pushed you" moment, why admit?
Well, basically, Banri will never tell on this girl because of the nature of Japanese society. Telling on someone admits your own weakness and, in all honestly, will likely turn the teacher against you too (typically, I know within the confines of this Manga that is not the case). Teachers in Japan are notorious for joining in the bullying of their students, and blaming problems such as vandalism of a desk on the student in question. It makes a sick kind of sense that Banri will not tell her teacher "who did it." To make matters worse, as already seen, the school wants to cover the whole thing up (which is pretty normal for Japan) but Momo prevented that by talking about it online. This throws the school into a freak out mode that because they don't really want to find out who bushed Banri. Banri being pushed just shows that she needs to fit in better with her class.
Lastly: "How can the chairman throw something at Jimi and get away with it!?"
Sadly, things like this are not uncommon in Japan. So called "black companies" are know for their abusive dealings with employees, and with Japan's general belief in a lifetime employment system, changing jobs is all bot impossible after you have finished your third year of university. Though the direct physical abuse is likely played up for the purposes of the manga, getting a job teaching in a prestigious private high school would likely be considered worth any abuse thrown your direction. As a note that is not anthropologically related, it does seem that Jimi and the chairman somehow know each other, and that his general response provoked the act of violence from her.
If there are other questions I missed that anyone wants answered, tag me and i'll do my best to answer them (as long as they pertain to the manga). Otherwise PM's are fine too.
As an aside, none of this excuses the pacing or new character additions or whatever from a stylistic point of view. But I did notice that a larger number of people were confused at the social aspects of this manga because they are so alien to foreigners.
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So, to answer some questions. First: Why are all the psychopaths in the same class?
Japanese schools often lump all problem children into one class, and let the teacher they dislike the most deal with that class. This is due in large to the belief that, by sequestering problem children away from the remainder of the classes, children won't be corrupted. It also allows one teacher (who, as mentioned, is often times the most disliked teacher) to monitor all the problem children without the job needing to be split across classrooms. In general, no teacher believes they can fix problem/broken children.
Second: Not exactly mentioned, but the abrupt "yea I pushed you" moment, why admit?
Well, basically, Banri will never tell on this girl because of the nature of Japanese society. Telling on someone admits your own weakness and, in all honestly, will likely turn the teacher against you too (typically, I know within the confines of this Manga that is not the case). Teachers in Japan are notorious for joining in the bullying of their students, and blaming problems such as vandalism of a desk on the student in question. It makes a sick kind of sense that Banri will not tell her teacher "who did it." To make matters worse, as already seen, the school wants to cover the whole thing up (which is pretty normal for Japan) but Momo prevented that by talking about it online. This throws the school into a freak out mode that because they don't really want to find out who bushed Banri. Banri being pushed just shows that she needs to fit in better with her class.
Lastly: "How can the chairman throw something at Jimi and get away with it!?"
Sadly, things like this are not uncommon in Japan. So called "black companies" are know for their abusive dealings with employees, and with Japan's general belief in a lifetime employment system, changing jobs is all bot impossible after you have finished your third year of university. Though the direct physical abuse is likely played up for the purposes of the manga, getting a job teaching in a prestigious private high school would likely be considered worth any abuse thrown your direction. As a note that is not anthropologically related, it does seem that Jimi and the chairman somehow know each other, and that his general response provoked the act of violence from her.
If there are other questions I missed that anyone wants answered, tag me and i'll do my best to answer them (as long as they pertain to the manga). Otherwise PM's are fine too.
As an aside, none of this excuses the pacing or new character additions or whatever from a stylistic point of view. But I did notice that a larger number of people were confused at the social aspects of this manga because they are so alien to foreigners.
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I thought I was getting an idea what has been happening, but this manga has a nasty habit of digging deeper into hard to understand information.
It's like, once you finally understand something, a new thing is thrown in your face.
To those not savvy in the meaning of flowers, a black lily is actually a symbol of hope, rebirth and rejuvenation, for some reason. Look it up if you think I'm wrong.
It's like, once you finally understand something, a new thing is thrown in your face.
To those not savvy in the meaning of flowers, a black lily is actually a symbol of hope, rebirth and rejuvenation, for some reason. Look it up if you think I'm wrong.
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I kinda just want someone to start throwing hands...
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I would think a lot has changed since 1946.
I would think a lot has changed since 1946.
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You would be surprised at how little has.
You don't have to believe me, obviously, as who would go on the internet at tell lies! But, anthropologically, culture changes are very slow; 70 years is hardly enough to elicit a significant change. If you doubt it there are significant examples in not only US culture, but GB, Ireland, Poland, and even China.
Regarding the bullying aspects seen in the manga toward Banri. DOI 10.1515/IJAMH.2012.010 is a great read (a 2012 publication on ijime). Japan Times also offers some insight as to how teachers react in the classroom: https://www.japantimes.co.jp/opinion/2014/03/11/editorials/combating-bullying-at-school/#.Xgr-PkczaUk or https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2017/04/28/national/social-issues/bullying-schools-keeps-youth-suicide-rate-high/#.XgsA-EczaUl
Not that what I say will change your mind; but to anyone else who does read and care.
You would be surprised at how little has.
You don't have to believe me, obviously, as who would go on the internet at tell lies! But, anthropologically, culture changes are very slow; 70 years is hardly enough to elicit a significant change. If you doubt it there are significant examples in not only US culture, but GB, Ireland, Poland, and even China.
Regarding the bullying aspects seen in the manga toward Banri. DOI 10.1515/IJAMH.2012.010 is a great read (a 2012 publication on ijime). Japan Times also offers some insight as to how teachers react in the classroom: https://www.japantimes.co.jp/opinion/2014/03/11/editorials/combating-bullying-at-school/#.Xgr-PkczaUk or https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2017/04/28/national/social-issues/bullying-schools-keeps-youth-suicide-rate-high/#.XgsA-EczaUl
Not that what I say will change your mind; but to anyone else who does read and care.
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Your reply was more than I could hope for. The paper was certainly informative, though it works against your argument that little has changed.
Still, the manga seems to clearly be exaggerating those issues for dramatic effect.
Your reply was more than I could hope for. The paper was certainly informative, though it works against your argument that little has changed.
Still, the manga seems to clearly be exaggerating those issues for dramatic effect.
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