Akuyaku Reijoutachi wa Yuruganai - Ch. 16

[MrHanni]

Aini should read Orwell's 'Animal Farm'
“All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others.”

 

[Kaarme]

I feel like they should've kept her more at the church to be teaching her scripture rather than to an actual school. Like, what is the real point of it?

Political power for the church? Church has its own power from the religion, but it doesn't fully translate into political power, especially if the secular government is already as well developed as we have seen in this story. If the church kept the saintess only in the temples, she would remain only within the circles of the church/religion. Of course she could still be used as an extremely valuable tool by healing important people, but her presence would still be limited to the church. By having her attend the academy, just like all those important nobles including the crown prince himself, she extends the church's presence to that place as well. It sends a signal the church is here as well. If she forms connections with important nobles, even better. Since the church dares to do this, we can assume nobody is going to challenge the notion the saintess belongs to the church, so nobody's snatching her away, which is something Aini herself doesn't seem to realise, which is fitting for her naive personality.

 

[beThereShortly]

She'd dumb and it's great. Can't wait to see where this goes after the "saintess commotion". Aini's not a bad kid, seeing her reflect on her mistakes after being shut down by the prince would be great.

 

[k40235]

Unpopular af opinion
Out of all the girls I like the saintess best, just because of this chapter, the depth of a depthless looking character was written beautifully and compared to others she feels less frustrating

 

[MadlySoldier]

So this chapter highlight that Aini isn't Evil or Bad Girl, but she's indeed a dumb girl, tho it can not really be blamed solely on her, because her life was pretty bad, result in screwed logic, and lack of common sense, combining with flaws/extreme of each people around her, some good, some not so good, and some pretty bad (looking at you, disowned muscle brain). Like the thing Aini needs is actual good guidance, friends/people that's at standard level, and some good teacher+time (something that's shown here that Bernadetta isn't exactly perfect in the part, tho she also got problem of having to cram it in short time)

 

[d_a_renoir]

Guys, remember that Bernadetta has photographic memory so strong she memorizes everything instantly, and she's also been shown to struggle with understanding the limitations of other peoples' memories. She's a bad teacher and can't really avoid that, because she literally cannot teach people to learn in the only way she knows how.

No. are you forgetting that this chapter literally showed us that Aini wasn't even trying to learn? She just thought "We don't need this, everyone are equal anyway" and wasn't at all interested in the subject at all. If we had seen Aini putting the effort to learn properly but failing, then we can blame Bernadetta. But right now what we're shown is Aini was just bored and spacing out all the time, and never taking the moment to revise the study materials.

Like, the subject is simply about memorising names and ranks and hierarchy. Even in real life schooling, memorisation subjects like history is kind of just the teacher reading/writing out names and words over and over like that. It's not entirely helpful, but it's not actively "bad" either. It's just the basic method.

The only way you can teach memorisation "better" is by making cute and clever memorisation devices like using pictures, puns, number associations, and stuff like that. Just because Bernadetta can't do this doesn't mean she's a bad teacher per se. Most modern day teachers had to actually be trained to be able to pull off this kind of teaching because not everyone can just know how to do it naturally.

 

[Zhangar]

Random thought - I'm amused at Aini's ADHD kicking in and fucking her over the moment she was no longer in survival mode.

Second random thought - I'm amused that Orva happily ruined his own life pursuing Aini when he isn't even on her radar.

 

[BanzaiYuri]

I can't really feel for Aini. I already suck at empathizing with people I like, so I think I can only fuck up hard with those I dislike.

 

[Riorio56]

Her motive searching equality is good but her reasoning is not good

 

[MegaXL]

Yep this just made me hate her even more.
Shows how important education is.

 

[yoshiii]

You know, based on how she was treated as a kid, I'd expect her to grow up a bit more mature than other kids...with at least some smarts to understand social dynamics. Instead, this chapter shows she's lazy especially when things just get handed to her. I agree, that she was set up to fail from the start, but she barely puts in any effort herself.

I think her mother was giving her a pitying look because she understands her child is an idiot.

 

[Wizardrone]

thanks for chapter

I though she was a reincarnaiter with heroine syndrome or a intentianally ragebaiting character instead she is just dumb.

 

[UdenEmpati]

Guys, remember that Bernadetta has photographic memory so strong she memorizes everything instantly, and she's also been shown to struggle with understanding the limitations of other peoples' memories. She's a bad teacher and can't really avoid that, because she literally cannot teach people to learn in the only way she knows how.

And? We see in this very chapter that Aini put zero effort into her lessons, and Bernadetta's half-brother spent all his time actively interfering and pulling Aini away from studying in the first place. Bernadetta was also pariah'd by her own family at this point, and had been getting the short end of the stick with regards to opportunities to even really live her life.

Besides, I don't think we find out until this chapter that Aini knew nothing prior to showing up at the Marquis' House to study under Bernadetta, for six months before she was going to be tossed into the academy with the rest of them. I don't think it's known for certain one way or another, but I suspect Bernadetta was not told that she'd have to teach Aini over a decade's worth of knowledge and "noble common social sense" and everything else, crammed into an impossible deadline. On top of that, the specific sort of "studying" that Aini needed was also a lot of rote memorization, which is taught all the time in schools even to students who don't possess a didactic memory.

None of that makes Bernadetta a bad teacher; it means she was set up for failure and had a bad pupil in an overall shitty situation.

 

[riflow]

It's interesting that she somehow retained gullible naive traits while being raised in a house like that, you'd think she'd realise putting hard work and effort in is the only sure fire way to be rewarded after spending her entire life being abused by those in charge.

 

[looc64]

I think part of the problem is that Bernadetta had no idea how shitty Aini's education actually was.

Bernadetta probably would've done a lot better if she'd understood that she was working with someone who basically never completed elementary school.

I think in the end the overall problem is still Sauri and the Prime Minister.

Like Bernadetta wasn't the right person to teach Aini but she was a responsible person who could tell that Aini didn't know basically any of the stuff needed to navigate noble society.

If it was just her and Aini they'd eventually make at least a little bit of progress. If it was her teaching Aini while reporting to someone like Seraphina that person would believe her when she said there was a problem and figure out another arrangement.

It's only when you add in a guy who doesn't notice Aini's total lack of preparedness and constantly undermines Bernadetta (Sauri) and a supervisor who believes that guy over Bernadetta (the prime minister) that Aini's progress grinds to a complete halt.

 

[Nylodale]

Notice she doesn't actually think everyone is equal. She just uses that as an excuse to elevate herself.

 

[looc64]

Political power for the church? Church has its own power from the religion, but it doesn't fully translate into political power, especially if the secular government is already as well developed as we have seen in this story. If the church kept the saintess only in the temples, she would remain only within the circles of the church/religion. Of course she could still be used as an extremely valuable tool by healing important people, but her presence would still be limited to the church. By having her attend the academy, just like all those important nobles including the crown prince himself, she extends the church's presence to that place as well. It sends a signal the church is here as well. If she forms connections with important nobles, even better. Since the church dares to do this, we can assume nobody is going to challenge the notion the saintess belongs to the church, so nobody's snatching her away, which is something Aini herself doesn't seem to realise, which is fitting for her naive personality.

My thing is it's weird that the church didn't reach out to her directly. Like it said before that a) she's equivalent to a high ranking noble and b) any kids she has automatically belong to the church. Potentially an extremely valuable asset for them.

Meanwhile the prime minister is part of the church faction but has a bunch of power and assets and two heirs of his own, such that he doesn't have to do what the church says or really invest that much in Aini.

If I were the church I would absolutely not a) trust the prime minister to handle Aini or b) let her do whatever at school? I would send people to explicitly tell her what to do.

 

[Kaarme]

My thing is it's weird that the church didn't reach out to her directly. Like it said before that a) she's equivalent to a high ranking noble and b) any kids she has automatically belong to the church. Potentially an extremely valuable asset for them.

Meanwhile the prime minister is part of the church faction but has a bunch of power and assets and two heirs of his own, such that he doesn't have to do what the church says or really invest that much in Aini.

If I were the church I would absolutely not a) trust the prime minister to handle Aini or b) let her do whatever at school? I would send people to explicitly tell her what to do.

It's true that she doesn't really behave like one would expect from a church representative. In fact, it's the opposite. So, it's weird the church has tried to do nothing about it. Maybe the church wants to tie the prime minister closer to the church by having his household take care of Aini, an important church asset. Or maybe the church is already extremely weak politically and it didn't even have a choice. The whole church faction might not really care about the church all that much, they are just using the church's name to give legitimacy to themselves. I have unfortunately forgotten too much to remember if such a thing was indicated. Although for the prime minister to belong to the church faction, it most certainly means the church doesn't have much power to affect his political decisions.

 

[maddery]

Quite Orva!! I love Bernadetta and I will stand my ground for her!!

Frankly Bernadetta is not the best teacher, but remember she is too just a teenage, albeit is a genius forced to play a fool and take the blame if saint goes south, she have to exert caution meanwhile have no idea how to properly teach a BUM to be a DIPLOMAT.

THINK, how much patient you must exert when pressured by boss in job, dumping boatload of work on you while boss go on nice boat. Meanwhile your colleagues are keep making mistakes and putting blame on you for work failure.
Lastly your family just keep saying WHY YOU CANNOT DO BETTER, and your darling is off riding the town, and you even not allowed to get drunk.

Bernadetta doesn't have any darling lol. You are confusing her with someone else.

She is smart yes, but that is. She is a very bad teacher, as shown in this chapter. And no, your example is bad. Because she is the one in the wrong here. Just because she is smart, doesn't mean everyone else is. She tried to force someone who were never educated before (not Anis' fault really) to cram everything within a few months, which is damn wrong. She is only good in studying, but stupid in everything else. Truly the worst character in the series.

 

[KeraFury]

these people desperately need systemic change in their society, its probably a missing the point a bit to attribute a lot of the problems the characters face in this story to the horrors of class warfare but aini is kinda like the nexus of it. everyone else in this story will sort of find a comfortable resolution with their place in society once things are over, like yeah bernadetta was treated like shit because she had the guile to be born with a uterus and a brain in a patriarchical society but those problems will be resolved as she gets older thanks to her relationship with the literal queen of the country. but ultimately that is more of a matter of luck than anything, imagine a scenario where the king and queen arnt autistic superhumans who are paradoxicly merciful, magnanimous and also champions of the status quo, bernadetta ironicly is still likely to shack up with a god tier prince of a foreign country in that scenario. i love bernadetta but girl literally fell out of a tree and hit every good luck branch on the way down so that the only likely outcome for her in the long run was to actually surpass the status she was born into which was privilaged to begin with.
sorry to rag on my girl so much but its just to kinda contrast with aini's position in this story, i dont see anything remotely as good happening for her even if she somehow find a resolution that is still decent, it wont be comparable to the treatment she suffered just for being fucking born in-between social classes. girl wants nothing more than to live in a world where the circumstances of your birth have nothing to do with your treatment by society and she is not getting that outcome, but rather going to get humiliated for it.