Chounin A wa Akuyaku Reijou wo Doushitemo Sukuitai - Vol. 5 Ch. 23 - Coming home after a long time

[cryum]

Feel like the TL dipped 2/3 of the way through. Still better than the previous ones.

 

[Heavenstar]

Wait, Estonian Empire? How did I miss that part?

They are the Est Empire located at their east and they are also sometimes called Estonians.

The kingdom where the events take place is called the Centralen Kingdom.

The kingdom to their west(The homeland of one of the capture targets) is called Westerdale.

The Kingdom to their south is called the Xaus(Closely rhymes with South)

The kingdom to their North is called the United Kingdom of Norsane.


These are names of the countries in this world.

 

[ElectroSlam]

For once I want to see a manga/anime where the mc leaves after something like this happens and actually is not immediately found again by the other characters.

 

[BuyVelomobiles]

I like how his mom just dismissed all of his effort as somehow being because of, or related to, some dead guy he never even knew.

” Yes mom, those ditch cleaning genes I got from him really helped out.”

That's an interesting perspective on pointing out the son takes after the father.

 

[Renan_Walheim]

GIVE ME MORE CHOCO ONEESAN

 

[kuzunagi13]

good old noble trope..
i got ptsd coz of that certain isekai manga..

 

[sailor-erida]

Wait, Estonian Empire? How did I miss that part?

Yeah, love it. Hope, their capital name is Tallin.

 

[phorx]

The Onee-san is definitely the best girl. Time to have another bath maybe…

 

[feha]

I think a lot of people have a misunderstanding about nobility in those types manga where we deal with an heavily romanticized vision of nobility, laws don't apply to them and honor is the last of their worries as long as they stay in power, nobody will give a fuck if the Prince and his gang send a band of soldiers to slaughter MC family and friends in broad daylight and at the end of the day the word of the king is law and any opposition is criminal, FL family might be insulted but what are they going to do ? start a civil war over a peasant ? nobody is gonna help them for that, heck some of their allies might even seize to opportunity to sell them out for some favor with the future king (the prince) like any good politician.

Nobility in Europe (like most of those mangas are based on and it's the only one i have knowledge about) was nothing like portrayed in media, they had no "honor" or "values", the closest thing they had was religion and all they add to do is send money to the clergy and they'd get a "God says it's ok to commit this horrific crime against humanity", let's not even talk about knights (and other warrior aristocracy) whose only difference they had with bandits is that one had a state license to act like thug.

Nothing against you but a friendly reminder that Nobility is usually above the law and at the end of the day they could do whatever they want to MC and all people would say is "shouldn't have opposed a noble" and continue their day working to pay for food.

Being murdered is not same as execution. For execution you need to make them bother to invent false charges first. Way too much of a hassle for "punting down the uppity commoner who beat the prince in a duel", just send some goons to do it at his home, instead.

 

[feha]

it was said in chapter 1 (I think) that the civil war started by the villainess being expelled and Assaulted led to a civil war which weakened the country and led to them being invade


and on a side note, this series has the laziest county naming I’ve ever seen and I absolutely love it!

estonia is to the east and every other country is basically named the same way, like Northton to the north.

by that logic/naming sense, I take it that the country to the west is named America? I don't remember this being the case in the wn (don't remember this being Estonia in the wn, either).

 

[SunSun]

I don't understand why he's expecting such dire retribution, such as execution.
He was literally the representative of a Duke's daughter. Duke. That's almost the highest ranking in the noble-hierarchy. If royalty would go for his head, it'd be a direct disrespect to the Dukedom of the kingdom. That's fucking stupid. Am I missing anything here? It's not like the MC tossed a rock at them out of nowhere, it was an official duel, for the honor of an extremely high ranking noble for fuck's sake.

MC was shit talking in the prevous chapters. The translation didnt convey it well but talking down to royalty as a commoner is possible grounds for lese majeste.

So he's concerned for retribution not for the duel, but for what he said.

 

[CountryMage]

I don't understand why he's expecting such dire retribution, such as execution.
He was literally the representative of a Duke's daughter. Duke. That's almost the highest ranking in the noble-hierarchy. If royalty would go for his head, it'd be a direct disrespect to the Dukedom of the kingdom. That's fucking stupid. Am I missing anything here? It's not like the MC tossed a rock at them out of nowhere, it was an official duel, for the honor of an extremely high ranking noble for fuck's sake.

He did it in a particularly humiliating manner, plus all the things he provoked them with to turn the duel into an all vs one brawl.

 

[Morose]

I know that this is manga have only normal relationship between boy and girl for the MC, but can I say I want that milf join also the relationship...

MILF? You mean the Mother?
Or do you mean that Busty girl?
But she is unmarried and single and is only in her late teens or early twenties. So, can't be classified as a MILF.

 

[zekromfan1]

Seeing as thing played out as expected, it isn’t all that big of a surprise to see Allen truly believe the worst would befall him. Considering the prince’s demeanor, and the fact that in the game said prince ordered the hit on Anastasia, it would be an impossibility in his mind that no retaliation would be coming.

He handedly wiped the floor with all 5 of them, it was almost barely even considered a fight, little more than him creating a smoke screen, and then clicking on preverbal heads. The only one who gave him trouble was the prince, and that’s being generous, it was no more difficult for him than creating a goddamn chair out of the floor with alchemy.

Anastasia seemed to have been quite taken by his actions, it was obvious her total loss of care when it came to the prince, it was less her feelings towards him that instigated all of this, and more Amy’s antagonism and Anastasia’s mistreatment. It was all justified on Anastasia’s part, don’t get me wrong, but she never wanted this fight, she was practically forced into it, a fight which would have literally cost her everything had it not been for Allen.

Anastasia isn’t stupid, she is in fact pretty damn smart, she’s been preparing to be the next queen all her life after all, I would expect that much. So given her intelligence, it makes sense why Allen’s actions would hold a great deal of significance for her. Hopefully Amy gets her comeuppance, and that uppity prince deals with the consequences of his actions.

As a wise man once said, “I don’t know what the name of this operation was initially. But whatever it was, it’s definitely being called Operation: Fuck Up by now.” And who is the biggest fuck up here other than the troupe of idiots parading around as royalty, they really should know better. I wonder how their families will react to learning about all of this, and especially the King and Queen, their son not only annulled his engagement (that’s something major right there) he did it for a commoner who was gussying up to 4 other men at the same time, he challenged said woman he was engaged to for years all because of allegations without any evidence, fought against another commoner who was acting on behalf of said party, lost to said commoner even when trying a sneak attack with intent to kill, and in the end he would up I the hospital because he essentially “tried too hard” he hurt himself more than he was hurt by Allen.

Talk about the mother of all fuck ups, to quote Allen, “and this is the future of our country?” Man I would be worried for myself if I did even one of those things, he did all of them, and there are still things I didn’t list because I feel they are not only implied, but unnecessary when compared to all of this. It will be a miracle if his only punishment is not being able to see Amy ever again. And I haven’t even gotten into the other 4 chucklefucks who talked shit, and promptly got their shit kicked in. At least Marx was sensible enough to know when to give up, the other 3 are beyond incompetent, and into levels of incapable stupidity that I have to wonder how it is they don’t suffocate on their own saliva daily, much less know how to fight.

I’m sure they’re nice enough behind all that bravado, because let’s not forget here, those 5 are all victims here too, Amy ruined their lives and is using them for her own selfish gain. She’s abusing their feelings for profit, and the only two people who can see it are labeled as the bad ones. Hopefully they get some redemption in the future, they don’t deserve the same fate that befell Anastasia in the original timeline, not when they’re being manipulated. I can’t wait to see what comes next, for everyone involved, we’re entering uncharted territory here for all of them, nothing is certain anymore.

 

[zekromfan1]

I don't understand why he's expecting such dire retribution, such as execution.
He was literally the representative of a Duke's daughter. Duke. That's almost the highest ranking in the noble-hierarchy. If royalty would go for his head, it'd be a direct disrespect to the Dukedom of the kingdom. That's fucking stupid. Am I missing anything here? It's not like the MC tossed a rock at them out of nowhere, it was an official duel, for the honor of an extremely high ranking noble for fuck's sake.

Let’s not forget that in the original timeline the Prince was the one who ordered the hit on Anastasia which caused this whole mess. Allen knows all of this, so it stands to reason he was expecting the same level of retaliation against him that the prince did against Anastasia in the original timeline following the confrontation which Allen took part in, in Anastasia’s stead.

And the prince ordered the hit because, and to quote Lord Freezer from TFS’ DBZA “Because I’m a prick!” Which I think applies to the prince just as well, he’s quite the small selfish prick isn’t he? Granted he’s being used, but still, he did this in the original timeline without any manipulation so hey it still stands.

 

[Areos]

Can´t wait for what might happen next chapter. For now I guess the usual thanks for saving our daughter and family´s pride, you are back in college. But who knows.

 

[GridLite]

amy forgetting she concluded that it was the hardest difficulty and yet still gets weirded out because of unknown variables lmao

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his trust to ramslette family on earlier chapters was through the roof and now he's not even trusting anastasia to protect him as he protected her honor via winning the duel.

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best mom 10/10 , wish i have a mom that supportive.

 

[marzial09]

The dukedom.
The dukedom will care.

EDIT: Ya'll are completely missing the point, that I was entirely hinging on the fact that the MC fought for a Duke's daughter, officially.
Going against the MC now, is to directly spit in the Duke's face, which can give immense political leeway in favor of the Duke.
It is not about "They are honor-bound to play nice", it's about not pissing off the highest form of authority in the entire kingdom other than the king.

P.S: Also, do not forget that this setting makes no sense if you're trying to apply actual history to it. That is to say -- in which world would peasants be receiving official education outside of a church, and on top of that -- together with nobility, not to mention, the royalty of the kingdom?
It reminds me a dumb ass story in which slaves were also allowed to study together with royalty. If the story goes so much off the rails, you cannot hark about how "that's not how that works in real life".
Yeah no shit it doesn't.

what you said the MC kinda explained in page 21

He prevented Anastasia's condemnation and banishment which resulted in the civil war not happening thus preventing the invasion

Kinda stupid of trash prince to do it in the original timeline but I guess its for plot purposes.....so backing or not he will go after the MC and his loved ones cuz he can lol until he gets caught and condemned by the king himself

 

[Kikaibaka]

I don't understand why he's expecting such dire retribution, such as execution.
He was literally the representative of a Duke's daughter. Duke. That's almost the highest ranking in the noble-hierarchy. If royalty would go for his head, it'd be a direct disrespect to the Dukedom of the kingdom. That's fucking stupid. Am I missing anything here? It's not like the MC tossed a rock at them out of nowhere, it was an official duel, for the honor of an extremely high ranking noble for fuck's sake.

Because he's a commoner, disparaged not only a one but TWO Princes(one from an allied Kingdom), and multiple high ranking Noble heirs which would have absolutely incurred a charge of Lèse-majesté. Even if he was representing Anastasia in the duel he did not have her families protection PRIOR to or AFTER said duel so any remarks he made were as if a commoner were spitting on Royalty/High Nobility which was why he left the Academy and was planning to flee the country. Of Course

Spoiler

that is what this meeting with Anastasia's father is going to be about, offering the protection of his House to protect Allen from any charges of Lèse-majesté that would have normally seen him imprisoned or even executed

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[Antinomy]

I know that this is manga have only normal relationship between boy and girl for the MC, but can I say I want that milf join also the relationship...

I also remember mentioning that a while back. More MCs should fuck their hot Isekai moms. Honestly, thought it was gonna happen with how she kept comparing him to his dad.
Anyway, she's a good mom. Willing to tell her son to run away and die for him.
Better than other isekai parents at least.

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Thanks for the TL