D.Gray-man - Ch. 252 - The Other Bookman Jr.

[Hatysa]

Okay, I think I have to re-read all of it xD

But I agree with the idea that Lavi got his time stolen as well (+ his memories). This might also explain why bookman found him while searching for big Lavi.

 

[BananowyJE]

Damn, loved the timeskip between pages 15-17
Also - BASED pedocryphos creating perfect little angel Allen. Also - imho old Lavi turned into Cross, since they look almost identical. That would also explain how Cross knew so many things about past and Noahs, how he knew Skulls magic (probably from Nea) and how he got innocence (by-product of interfering with Allens de-aging erasure). His scar over eye would also fit with porcelain mask.
"Current" Lavi has an eyepatch but it wouldn't cover the whole scar. It also isn't covering injury (according to Reverse) but that could very well be the effect of de-aging so who knows. See you in 3 months to see more answers... I hope.

 

[capricieux]

I thought I was crazy, 'that wasn't what Lavi looked like??' and oh it's a flashback... we're still in flashback?😂

 

[Takuma_Aki]

The first few comments give me reassurance, lol. I read this on its prime day (with physical copy of official translation in my own language even - it was really at its height at the time). Then Author took a long hiatus. When she's back, I totally forgot where it was. And going back to reread it, I find myself getting confused on what happened and have to back track further...

Right now I have to re-read the Alma arc over and over every time I got some time to sit down with this series because I keep forgetting & got confused of what the heck actually happened in that arc that I really can't move on from it. And by the time I finished the arc and go further a little bit, I just got something else to do and this goes on a loop many times now. (I recall more and more of it every time, so some progress there at least.)

A bit surprised to me this series hasn't finished yet? I thought it's already over.

 

[Makenai]

Look, I'm not one of these "What's going on?" people but this chapter confused me. That's suppossed to be Lavi? He looks completely different. Any Allen as well. Its the first time I actually have no clue whats going on so guess I'm one of these people now.

 

[EdgarDrake]

Is this "Lavi" guy someone who become known as "Cross Marian"?

 

[Ryukugro]

what a cookin

 

[GeassUser89]

Also - imho old Lavi turned into Cross, since they look almost identical. That would also explain how Cross knew so many things about past and Noahs, how he knew Skulls magic (probably from Nea) and how he got innocence (by-product of interfering with Allens de-aging erasure). His scar over eye would also fit with porcelain mask.

As much as I understand why people believe this, it doesn't make any logical sense to me. Cross knew about Allen, but clearly has no recollection of having traveled with him personally. And that middling level of knowledge on the situation regarding Nea and his host makes no sense under the assumption that his memories were modified by this remaking. He simultaneously knows too much AND too little for me to believe that old Lavi turned into Cross. Much less that Apocryphos just completely ignored him after the fact to the point that he could reach the level of a General in whatever timeframe exists between this remaking and when Red meets Mana.
There's also the fact that Nea knew Cross by the name Cross, and the fact that Bookman has shown absolutely no recognition of Cross as his former Junior. Everything we know about Cross contradicts the notion that he could be the former Junior.

 

[nickolas77]

Man, did the author really introduced the former Bookman Jr. character just to kill him in like one chapter?
What a waste...

well the TN said that in the last couple of panels old lavi was speaking with the same mannerism as current lavi so maybe the innocense made them both young

 

[nickolas77]

So my theory is Apo tried to erase Allen with reversing his age but since Lavi hugged him in the middle of attack he caught in too, at the end of it somehow they exchanged their hair colours(it's just my assume this Allen has red hair because of the shading), they turned into children. Allen went to circus meanwhile child Lavi adopted by grandpa Bookman? Since I started with first season anime and skipped those parts in manga I didn't see but if you search for young Lavi we know and look his history it looks like he said something to Bookman smiling widely plus he has patch on his right eye. At the end Allen didn't turned into nothing because Lavi gave up his life too and Lavi actually didn't die like the Bookmans that Allen is together with thinks.

+ After looking at last chapter I remembered Nea said Allen's body was tampered and this was probably what he meant.

ya i was thinking the same, since TN said that old lavi was talking in the same mannerism of current lavi

 

[toxicella]

I can't wait for this manga to finish so I can decide whether these turns of events were good or bad. It's hard to tell when we get releases every few months...

 

[kitsushouten]

This isn’t helping lessen the complicated mess of this story one bit

Okay, so, before he’s the current Allen, he was another Allen who came into contact with Nea and another Bookman named Lavi. Apocryphos found him and in an attempt to kill him, Allen the Nea host survived but lost his hair pigments, memory, and age.

Then the amnesiac Allen (nameless at the time) joined a circus, and with some twisted fate, met Mana the Millenium Earl, assumed a dog’s name that’s coincidentally Allen, manifested an Innocence, and Cross Marian took him under his “care,” all while Allen himself unknowingly carrying the package that is Nea.

Or something

wtffffff… thanks for this recap btw! so even in the early volumes lavi knew allen was nea? so dumb…

 

[damadicius]

wtffffff… thanks for this recap btw! so even in the early volumes lavi knew allen was nea? so dumb…

I honestly can’t remember whether the hammer wielder Lavi knows Allen has Nea, but the previous Bookman Jr also named Lavi in this chapter does

 

[Cegarth]

Here's chapter 253 without text/typesetting done:

https://imgur.com/a/zMf3g3J

Will try to translate this chapter but hopefully this can speed up the process for other translators. If someone could link this to the current dump thread in /a/ would be really helpful since the country I live in is rangebanned and it could pontentially help tl /a/non.

 

[obviousburnerthissiteisinsecureasfucklol]

This shit is so ass

 

[Kurie]

There are too many timelines to keep track of -_-

 

[izarist]

Here's chapter 253 without text/typesetting done:

https://imgur.com/a/zMf3g3J

Will try to translate this chapter but hopefully this can speed up the process for other translators. If someone could link this to the current dump thread in /a/ would be really helpful since the country I live in is rangebanned and it could pontentially help tl /a/non.

Please and thank you! !

I'm already crying reading raw but still don't understand much about innocence part so can't really help translating. But ready to cry for Lavi (both)

 

[Bel-Shug]

Here's chapter 253 without text/typesetting done:

https://imgur.com/a/zMf3g3J

Will try to translate this chapter but hopefully this can speed up the process for other translators. If someone could link this to the current dump thread in /a/ would be really helpful since the country I live in is rangebanned and it could pontentially help tl /a/non.

Old Bookman look pretty handsome

 

[Wanderer00]

So...this means that Allen is chronologically, like in his 50's?

Darn, he really looks good for his age lol