FPS de Shoshinsha Bokotte Real Fight ni Hattenshita Kekka w - Ch. 44

[jcuum]

Personally, in my humble opinion, this is bullshit.

While it is technically cropped porn, it didn't show anything pornographic. It was the head of a girl, making a funny expression, talking about Elden Ring.
If I open up a hentai doujin and crop out a random roadsign, will MD also remove it for being cropped porn? Technically it is, it's from a hentai doujin.
Maybe it's the expression? I'm sure there are a lot of Safe manga out there that have a girl make such an expression for comedic effect. Will MD rate them all as pornographic?
Or maybe it's the artstyle? That artist is easy to recognize. Would you remove non-pornographic SFW art from this artist?
In fact, what if I found a standalone art of this artist where a girl makes the same funny expression, but the rest of the image is SFW and I only cropped out the head? Would you also remove it?

I have no problem if it was removed simply for being cropped porn (even if it didn't show anything pornographic). I don't make the rules, I just follow them. But claiming it exposes people to pornographic content when nothing pornographic was shown is madness.
For those that don't know it's porn, it's a silly face. Those that know it's porn and complain about it are hypocrites that read loli hentai doujins in their free time.

At least that's my take. I hope you're having a good day. Moderating can be a thankless job.

Mod likely just did it to finally shut ppl up but now that they've caved this time the complainers will get even worse next time

 

[a0n2]

Personally, in my humble opinion, this is bullshit.

While it is technically cropped porn, it didn't show anything pornographic. It was the head of a girl, making a funny expression, talking about Elden Ring.
If I open up a hentai doujin and crop out a random roadsign, will MD also remove it for being cropped porn? Technically it is, it's from a hentai doujin.
Maybe it's the expression? I'm sure there are a lot of Safe manga out there that have a girl make such an expression for comedic effect. Will MD rate them all as pornographic?
Or maybe it's the artstyle? That artist is easy to recognize. Would you remove non-pornographic SFW art from this artist?
In fact, what if I found a standalone art of this artist where a girl makes the same funny expression, but the rest of the image is SFW and I only cropped out the head? Would you also remove it?

I have no problem if it was removed simply for being cropped porn (even if it didn't show anything pornographic). I don't make the rules, I just follow them. But claiming it exposes people to pornographic content when nothing pornographic was shown is madness.
For those that don't know it's porn, it's a silly face. Those that know it's porn and complain about it are hypocrites that read loli hentai doujins in their free time.

At least that's my take. I hope you're having a good day. Moderating can be a thankless job.

My dear friend, what you are doing here is called a false equivalence.
There are significant contextual differences here dude.

A road sign is obviously not porn. An expression is obviously not porn. Art style is obviously not porn.
Albeit cropped, a very clearly explicit image, sourced from porn, is porn. (the loli shit is another argument altogether)

Some people come here to just read funny Japanese comics, so putting explicit material that at the end of a manga that isn't porn very clearly may expose people who have set their preferences to not see explicit material.

While I do respect your humble opinion, it's important to understand that it is quite literally fundamentally flawed.

 

[Ahbahl]

My dear friend, what you are doing here is called a false equivalence.
There are significant contextual differences here dude.

A road sign is obviously not porn. An expression is obviously not porn. Art style is obviously not porn.
Albeit cropped, a very clearly explicit image, sourced from porn, is porn. (the loli shit is another argument altogether)

Some people come here to just read funny Japanese comics, so putting explicit material that at the end of a manga that isn't porn very clearly may expose people who have set their preferences to not see explicit material.

While I do respect your humble opinion, it's important to understand that it is quite literally fundamentally flawed.

In fact, what if I found a standalone art of this artist where a girl makes the same funny expression, but the rest of the image is SFW and I only cropped out the head? Would you also remove it?

The problem here is that it's 'very clearly explicit' because the source is porn, whereas if the source weren't porn, it wouldn't be 'very clearly explicit'.
There was nothing explicit about that end page. A girl, with a funny expression and text talking about Elden Ring. I didn't see any genitals. I didn't see any sex.

You said it yourself, an expression isn't porn, an art style isn't porn. Can you tell me what was so explicit about that image?

EDIT: Also, since you're touching on false equivalence. Do you mean this?

If A is the set containing c and d, and B is the set containing d and e, then since they both contain d, A and B are equal.

If A is a set of pixels containing a girl with a facial expression, and B is a set of pixels containing a girl with a facial expression and sex, then since both contain a girl with a facial expression, A and B are equally explicit.

 

[Rathly]

Bring back the credit page cuz I didn't see it

 

[NARESH4444]

My dear friend, what you are doing here is called a false equivalence.
There are significant contextual differences here dude.

A road sign is obviously not porn. An expression is obviously not porn. Art style is obviously not porn.
Albeit cropped, a very clearly explicit image, sourced from porn, is porn. (the loli shit is another argument altogether)

Some people come here to just read funny Japanese comics, so putting explicit material that at the end of a manga that isn't porn very clearly may expose people who have set their preferences to not see explicit material.

While I do respect your humble opinion, it's important to understand that it is quite literally fundamentally flawed.

The simple truth is if there's no nipples,puss puss,anus,and/or magnum dong on screen,then it's not even on the level of erotic,let alone pornographic.

Suggestive at best,and suggestive is the tier that includes nipples.

Considering that it is never the responsibility of a website that contains adult material to cater to those who shouldn't nor don't want it,this caving in will only make it worse for the actual kind of people who read piracy sites.

Don't want to deal with it?,never should been a fan of Japanese entertainment media in the first place,because you always run into it.

 

[T-sama]

Does not work this way with the newer credit pages. I don't find the fox content funny, but I can skip it. With the newer credit pages, I don't have the choice of not looking at porn, unless I drop the manga or block the group.

Except there was nothing outright pornographic in the cropped pics, it's your own fault if you fill the gaps and assume the worst, only you is responsible for your own imagination.

@jcuum, @Ahbahl, @NARESH4444
Although I agree with you and others who didn't post but also think removing it was unnecessary, you can't outright disregard the mod logic, unfortunately they have to be more pragmatic with this kind of thing, otherwise the babies will throw a fit and might cause other problems in the long run, but look at the good side, the mod outright made clear it's only a issue because the manga is safe while the credit page cropped image is from something nsfw, that means it stops here, Kyuukei can still use loli in whatever nsfw stuff he translates and neither is the fox at risk.

In short my point is that we have to be greateful that even if we disagree with it, the mod is at least still reasonable and actually explain why they did it, if it was certain sites things would have been way worse.

 

[Ahbahl]

but look at the good side, the mod outright made clear it's only a issue because the manga is safe while the credit page cropped image is from something nsfw, that means it stops here, Kyuukei can still use loli in whatever nsfw stuff he translates and neither is the fox at risk.

Very true. The issue is the NSFW source on a SFW manga. I'm sure there are plenty of funny loli expression from SFW sources out there to use instead!

 

[NARESH4444]

Except there was nothing outright pornographic in the cropped pics, it's your own fault if you fill the gaps and assume the worst, only you is responsible for your own imagination.

@jcuum, @Ahbahl, @NARESH4444
Although I agree with you and others who didn't post but also think removing it was unnecessary, you can't outright disregard the mod logic, unfortunately they have to be more pragmatic with this kind of thing, otherwise the babies will throw a fit and might cause other problems in the long run, but look at the good side, the mod outright made clear it's only a issue because the manga is safe while the credit page cropped image is from something nsfw, that means it stops here, Kyuukei can still use loli in whatever nsfw stuff he translates and neither is the fox at risk.

In short my point is that we have to be greateful that even if we disagree with it, the mod is at least still reasonable and actually explain why they did it, if it was certain sites things would have been way worse.

Yeah,the mod basically talked about how tied their hands were.

Sure,you can just ignore a piracy site getting nation restricted since VPNs are a dime a dozen,but that also means all kinds of loading issues.

That baby who replied to the first fella who replied to the mod,though...

 

[mgRdr]

The simple truth is if there's no nipples,puss puss,anus,and/or magnum dong on screen,then it's not even on the level of erotic,let alone pornographic.

That's not "simple truth", that's your subjective classification, and it is in disagreement with the subjective classification imposed by the moderators' team. Works containing no visible genitalia on screen but otherwise depicting and having heavy focus on sexual acts are routinely being classified as erotica on Mangadex.

it's your own fault if you fill the gaps and assume the worst

Does my mind fill feel in the gaps in the wrong way? I don't remember what exactly was depicted on the page, but it didn't leave much room to have it extrapolated in any other way.

Yeah,the mod basically talked about how tied their hands were.

They also talked about how borderline-NSFW pages posted for a Safe-rated manga are shit user experience

 

[T-sama]

Very true. The issue is the NSFW source on a SFW manga. I'm sure there are plenty of funny loli expression from SFW sources out there to use instead!

Indeed, @Sullieman, as @Ahbahl said you definitely have alternatives even if they're sfw, so I use his avatar as a suggestion, Made in Abyss has some great loli expressions you can use, plus if people know what it is about they know how dark it gets, I assume @BraveDude8 and the other mods wouldn't have a issue with it since it's not pornographic, so everyone wins!

Well, except the people who will continue to whine, but that's good right?

@BraveDude8
I know you might think the worst of what I said, I do admit I'm playing a little of rules lawyer over the subject, a part of me do find amusing seeing people triggered over Kyuukei shenanigans, but I hope my suggestion isn't a issue, one can argue Made in Abyss is pretty clearly degenerate stuff, there's obvious signs the mangaka is absolutely inserting his fetishes on it with what happens with Riko and Reg, but even so it's still not porn, so I hope it's fine.

Yeah,the mod basically talked about how tied their hands were.

Sure,you can just ignore a piracy site getting nation restricted since VPNs are a dime a dozen,but that also means all kinds of loading issues.

That baby who replied to the first fella who replied to the mod,though...

Yeah, they also mentioned the user experience as a whole too, as mods Mangadex staff has to take into account various issues, so we can't really blame them unless they make a decision that is clearly unreasonable or bullshit.

Does my mind fill feel in the gaps in the wrong way? I don't remember what exactly was depicted on the page, but it didn't leave much room to have it extrapolated in any other way.

Trust me when I say this, the expressions he used are not as bad as you think, you can very easily find safe manga with the same expressions, sometimes worse even, there's no end for the rabbit hole of degeneracy.

They also talked about how borderline-NSFW pages posted for a Safe-rated manga are shit user experience

That's one of the reasons I can't disregard their logic, although I still think Kyuukei choice and cropping wasn't a big deal, their logic is still reasonable, I guess one shouldn't cross the streams of sfw and nsfw.

Though it do makes me wonder if it would have been fine in one of those series super heavy in fanservice, after all many are already borderline porn to begin with, so you can't really get any worse unless you outright show sex

 

[vasdas]

This Time I was Beaten Up by Goblin and Become ASMR Master

 

[Coldlight]

The dates continue online! They've been dating nonstop for how long? They're unstoppable!

Ichigo getting subjected to Epetarou troll ASMR is something I didn't expect heading into this chapter. She says it's gross, but her double double blush is starting to return...

If she were actually good at technology she'd realize she can just mute him (Deafen on Discord) whenever he's trolling and he'd be none the wiser. But then again, her lacking skills in certain areas is what brought them together in the first place. She wouldn't be the Ichigo he loves (to troll) if she were sharp instead of blunt.

 

[CulR]

wait... there's no deranged fox or loli bait??? Is everything ok Kyuukei!

This manga's content rating is Safe, the credits page vastly exceeded that (cropped porn) and was removed, because it exposes guests/people with pornographic content filtered out to pornographic material; this is a shit user experience and has also gotten us banned in several countries in the past for obscenity, so we're trying to avoid that happening again.

Pornographic credits pages in actual pornographic titles are fine, for the record.

Ah so that's what happened.

oh look, a rare pink-red name-tag!

 

[Sullieman]

or block the group.

And anyone who hates my guts should do that. I'm not doing this for them, especially not for the retards in this thread who get overly mad at some drawings. I'm doing this to have a version I would personally like to read, for other like-minded people out there, and because I think it's a nice way to practice my Japanese. I don't owe anyone anything, I do it FOR FREE and I'll do it in whatever way I see fit and people can either go with it or GTFO, it's that simple. Now, this is certainly not my site, I don't make the rules and if they tell me to stop it with the cropped porn I will respect that, but the Fox and my dumb and shitty jokes will stay. To reiterate, my translations are not meant for everybody, just because people can read them too doesn't mean they get a say in how I do my work.

Like seriously, how fucking retarded anyone has to be to keep coming back to read my translations knowing full well the type of stuff I put in every chapter? Do they even realize their own idiocy coming of their own volition to read/see the shit they hate? Do they think they are special and entitled to my time and effort AND have it however way they want it? Like, damn. Instead of being whinny bitches they could make their version without the Fox and the dumb stuff, or go beg someone else to do it, but I know they won't do that because that actually requires effort and they won't get to parade how morally righteous they are.

wanting to kill someone? Over.... drawings??

I see no reason to engage with people who are clearly brain-dead, you are just wasting your time.

Indeed, @Sullieman, as @Ahbahl said you definitely have alternatives even if they're sfw

Fox got too close to the sun and paid the consequences. I guess I'll stick to the regular end cards for now.

wait... there's no deranged fox or loli bait??? Is everything ok Kyuukei!

The world is not yet ready for the magnificence of lolis. Anyway, the Fox is back.

By the way, the source of the image was Airandou's Mesukko Daisuki and there's an uncensored version in English available, the English title is "I love li'l bitches".

 

[mgRdr]

and I'll do it in whatever way I see fit and people can either go with it or GTFO, it's that simple

Apparently not

Now, this is certainly not my site, I don't make the rules and if they tell me to stop it with the cropped porn I will respect that

 

[T-sama]

Fox got too close to the sun and paid the consequences. I guess I'll stick to the regular end cards for now.

I still think it's possible but I understand your decision, make fox speech even more deranged to balance it out

 

[T-sama]

Apparently not

You're ignoring the fact that some people have been whining over the fox credit page too, constantly, for literally dozens of chapters now, if not the entire series even, so Kyuukei will still do what he wants and no matter how much some whine it won't stop, the loli being removed isn't really some kind of "victory" over him, especially because the loli thing isn't even what he usually do, only reason he did it is because he has been focused on other stuff so he half assed alternative credit page.

 

[furtadopires]

@BraveDude8 what are the chances to include the fox in reactions?

 

[romie68]

Personally, in my humble opinion, this is bullshit.

While it is technically cropped porn, it didn't show anything pornographic. It was the head of a girl, making a funny expression, talking about Elden Ring.
If I open up a hentai doujin and crop out a random roadsign, will MD also remove it for being cropped porn? Technically it is, it's from a hentai doujin.
Maybe it's the expression? I'm sure there are a lot of Safe manga out there that have a girl make such an expression for comedic effect. Will MD rate them all as pornographic?
Or maybe it's the artstyle? That artist is easy to recognize. Would you remove non-pornographic SFW art from this artist?
In fact, what if I found a standalone art of this artist where a girl makes the same funny expression, but the rest of the image is SFW and I only cropped out the head? Would you also remove it?

I have no problem if it was removed simply for being cropped porn (even if it didn't show anything pornographic). I don't make the rules, I just follow them. But claiming it exposes people to pornographic content when nothing pornographic was shown is madness.
For those that don't know it's porn, it's a silly face. Those that know it's porn and complain about it are hypocrites that read loli hentai doujins in their free time.

At least that's my take. I hope you're having a good day. Moderating can be a thankless job.

Lolol

 

[jcuum]

I see no reason to engage with people who are clearly brain-dead, you are just wasting your time.

Oh don't worry I understand, I don't get overly serious with this shit, I just like mocking people's hypocrisy

By the way, the source of the image was Airandou's Mesukko Daisuki and there's an uncensored version in English available, the English title is "I love li'l bitches".

PEAK, also thanks for your work 🙏