Fukushuu o Koinegau Saikyou Yuusha wa, Yami no Chikara de Senmetsu Musou Suru - Ch. 126

[Homuranagi]

First off, Raoul can use Victoria as he wishes and he has no need to forgive her or even suggest that he would but he still did. Factors in the story allows for a Victoria redemption, her love was severely corrupted by everything around her, but of course she's not all blameless so she still gets punished. The other villains despite the sufferings are still unwilling to change unlike her in this instance. We'll see if she perseveres, this might be the first time Raoul gets to purify a soul if ever. Raoul's plan was to collect pure souls but as he figured there are too few of them, it's better for him to purify souls.

 

[quaicai12]

I came back after a year of saving.
I came

 

[Regalia13]

Is raoul gonna forgive victoria?
I mean she become like that because of the king, the kingdom, and collaboration of saintess and goddess of love. Now that all the things that made her wicked gone...who knows if she was actually pure...

 

[AMicrowave]

I kind of want someone to explain this for me:
1) Raoul is a probational God of death. He needs to be acknowledged by the God of all creation to become a god.
2) Raoul has been keeping this illusion on the king for 10 years now. So why is Raoul not aging at all? Is he a god or is he not?
3) You are telling me that for 10-ish years the gods never had a problem with the absence of a Goddes of Love never mind a God of Death!?

If all 3 things are true then this basically is the end of the manga: Raoul destroys all the gods and either becomes the god of creation and recreates the world or he basically rules over it all as the new tyrannical god

Basically these 2 chapters prove that the world does not need gods and that they are more like children playing with toys instead of gods using their powers with wisdom.

the time skip was all in the kings head, he hyperbolic time chambered that illusion

 

[GoddessofBeauty]

Raul! Stop hanging around with that bimbo and send her back to her cross!

 

[DeadlyShadow0]

To be fair victoria was used by the others since the day she was born, i hope we can see some kind of redemption arc or something about her

Well yeah she was used by the love goddess, the saint, even her father...

maybe her love was somewhat pure, but got corrupted by the saint to the point of obsession and then we all know what happened later

 

[SunSun]

I'm not so sure Raul is not fucking with Victoria...she was still directly responsible for the death of his sister and her unborn child.

I would be more surprised that he actually forgives her, instead of another mindfuck revenge.

 

[SunSun]

Well yeah she was used by the love goddess, the saint, even her father...

maybe her love was somewhat pure, but got corrupted by the saint to the point of obsession and then we all know what happened later

...Victoria redemption arc incoming?! She did all those things, but wasn't she ultimately just mindfcked by that love obsessed goddess and saint?

Victoria seriously NEEDS a redemption arc

Eh...the goddess didn't tell to order her guards to kill Raoul's sister. The saintess made Victoria realize she was in love with Raoul, and as the man himself said:

Note the menhera eyes.

 

[obsidianpassion]

This retarded revenge story has got so retarded that Raoul needs to position himself to get revenge on someone he has already got revenge on. Or he is just playing with people like toys, like he hypocritically accuses the gods of doing, but its okay cuz "muh revengance"

Also the gods are super useless, weren't they suppose to give the king power so Raoul wouldn't be able to do as he pleased? How could they let Raoul beat them to doing that simple task? Retarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrded storyline.

 

[hurafloyd]

I feel like Victoria actually feels apologetic. She probably never want's to experience that pain again, so she'll probably do whatever she's told.

Of course she isnt, you need to pay more attention . Actually, you said it yourself, “doing what she is told” doesnt mean she is apologetic, it means she wants to avoid pain so she is just saving herself.

 

[Arkuses]

To be fair victoria was used by the others since the day she was born, i hope we can see some kind of redemption arc or something about her

That's true if you think about it
But she still did things

 

[JustReadingShit]

Daddy issues strike again!

Also for anyone asking this is Victoria in the chapter 30 flashback when seeing Raoul before Christina/Goddess brainwashing

 

[Danny1238]

Is raoul gonna forgive victoria?
I mean she become like that because of the king, the kingdom, and collaboration of saintess and goddess of love. Now that all the things that made her wicked gone...who knows if she was actually pure...

That's true if you think about it
But she still did things

Raoul did say that she is still at fault before he destroyed the Goddess of Love she was still aware of what she was doing and could had stopped. She wasn’t completely brainwashed so I don’t know where people keep saying she was brainwashed into doing what she was doing.

 

[Danny1238]

I'm not so sure Raul is not fucking with Victoria...she was still directly responsible for the death of his sister and her unborn child.

I would be more surprised that he actually forgives her, instead of another mindfuck revenge.

Victoria has to redeem herself. Raoul has no reason to forgive her. She’s still at fault because she killed alot of people even children. A lot of people is going to want her dead

 

[Danny1238]

Eh...the goddess didn't tell to order her guards to kill Raoul's sister. The saintess made Victoria realize she was in love with Raoul, and as the man himself said:

Note the menhera eyes.

This is why I’m confused at why people think Victoria was brainwashed to doing all the things she did but it’s on the author to convey things better which I hope we get a proper backstory. Victoria still ordered the killing of Raoul’s sister and anyone that was associated with him

At this point I’m questioning if Victoria can be “redeemed” then why can’t the Saint? She was mindfucked just as bad by the Goddess of Love since she was a kid. If anyone can become a new candidate for the Goddess of Love than it would be Christina herself depending on what Raoul wants to do and where all this is going. What makes Victoria special?

 

[rakka90]

Honestly?
I'm starting to feel sorry for Victoria.
Brought into this world by her father who never really cared about her, then got mind raped (LITERALLY) by the Godess of Love.

 

[rluka]

Is raoul gonna forgive Victoria?

As he told her: maybe

This is why I’m confused at why people think Victoria was brainwashed to doing all the things she did but it’s on the author to convey things better which I hope we get a proper backstory. Victoria still ordered the killing of Raoul’s sister and anyone that was associated with him

I think it’s similar in how Raoul gives temptation to the people he brought to heaven, to prune away the people who fall to selfish indulgence. In the same place there are those who are pure hearted, so the sinful can’t complain about it being unfair or impossible.

The emotion caused by the goddess and Christina are very powerful and intoxicating, and Victoria never knew what hits her.
But, there exist people with mental strong enough to resist temptation, holding true to what is right. Victoria is not off the hook because technically, Raoul can argue that human have the power to reject the temptation “if they choose to”.

Same as how when people did crime because of their environment or upbringing, it doesn’t instantly make them freed because “the choice to not do it is in their hand” (a.k.a only have themselves to blame, because the judicial system is not made to realistically punish the whole society or act of god, and people really need somewhere to direct their anger and blame).

 

[Ichigo69]

Y'know... I think the difference btwn Victoria and the other 2 is that she seems totally broken and realises what she's done not only will cause her much pain and suffering (at the hand of Raoul), but that she actually seems to realise that she made some really bad decisions and fucked up majorly. It SEEMS like she's really sorry and she doesn't seem to be spouting all kinds of rationalisations for her actions like the other 2 did and kept doing all the way to the end.

Now, she may still get belligerent at the very end like the other 2 did, but there's a chance that she really IS broken and just wants to do whatever to try to make up for her wrongs, etc... I think Raoul might be going to test her and find out what the reality is...

 

[-Minchen-]

I'm still not sure why the gods are so passive and allow Raoul to do whatever he wants. Unless they are just fucking with him but this feels like a male power fantasy where Raoul as the protagonist can never lose and every girl loves him even if he maims and tortures them. Also I still don't see the point of hell - people are there forever (at least it was said before), so they can never reincarnate again and change their actions. Raoul also tricked the children of Kurtz and the families of his enemies (even more children, teenagers and parents) into killing their tormentor and getting sent to hell because of it...For some reason. So I don't expect him to want redemption for Victoria and others.

 

[jump90008]

Well, after Christina and the goddess turned her feelings for Raoul into a sick twisted obsession, she.
1. had his pregnant sister killed
2. destroyed a village and killed villagers framing him for it.
3. locked him up and tortured him
4. raped him (although technically that was the goddess controlling her body, so this one is debatable on whether this on is on her).
5. burned him alive
That's the gist; if I missed any, let me know.

hmmmm probaly round 2 incoming then