Fukushuu o Koinegau Saikyou Yuusha wa, Yami no Chikara de Senmetsu Musou Suru - Ch. 134

[TPosingSnorlax]

Maybe that angel/god/whatever the fuck they are takes control of Victoria or sum shit. She may be a PoS, but a child doesn't deserve such youth. (Not that it cleanses of her sins)

 

[Greilius]

Just a theory:
Maybe the flashback is an illusion from Raoul to get more information?
Because the black "angel" at the end looks like the angel-disguise, which Raoul used for the king

since Raoul used such a big illusion on the king and the author loves to fck with his audience, i dont trust "new" characters.

 

[greatninja3]

I dont like this twist, author.

this twist was already hinted and was on it's way the moment we found out it was the saintest mind control power that did all of this shit.

 

[booterror]

I dont like this twist, author.

Look author, I was in it for seeing truly irredeemably bad people die horrible deaths they deserved. I did not ask for a feels trip to make me question all that.

 

[Arkuses]

Holy fucking shit
Poisoned non stop for months barely surviving as a flipping kid and then they had to resort to an assassin when they found out she's slowly becoming immune.

It's actually so messed up that she gave a look of satisfaction after drinking just WATER.

No fking wonder she turned out the way she was.
Doesn't resolve her of crimes naturally but like dang...

 

[DLRevan]

I honestly don't see the problem. Why are manga readers (honestly fantasy and sci fi in general as well) always so reluctant to change their opinions? You have to die on that hill where you either loved or hated a character since the start of a series.

It's not even like she didn't get what was coming to her for the crimes she actually committed. I remind people she was stuck for God knows how long being eaten inside out alive by insects, being able to feel that night and day and probably unable to even go unconscious for even the slightest relief. If you're all bragging about having read since the start and not forgetting all the things that's happened, why are you conveniently forgetting that?

If Raoul now treats her kindly, it would make sense to me. It means he already exacted enough of a revenge in his mind. A big thing with him is his obsession with "fair" and equal revenge. This came up in his interactions with Theodora. I also remind that his sense of revenge is bound by very strict rules, and is a product of his (and this manga's) revenge obsession, not in spite of it. Revenge must be perfectly executed, perfectly justified, even if the triggering act was irrational or even if he instigated it himself.

 

[Eliminateur]

brother did you read the manga? she's been crucified being kept alive while being eaten by bugs for so many chapters... and you still say that?

yes, that's part of her punishment/penance, and she got released from that in what, months?, not even years, after all the mass pain and killing she inflicted

not even close

 

[voltaseca]

I'm on Vicky team now.
Hope endgame for the Raoulbowl is Vicky and Theodora living happily together with their antihero.

 

[Iskarioth]

I actually like this chapter. For once we can start to see why one of the many characters is or should I say became so twisted. Everyone else was just pointlessly evil as a default for no apparent or believable reason.

I regret to inform you that she likely been folded like fresh laundry at this point. You believe this author doesn't have it in them?

This probably. Plus, she kinda already was as a slave, this is basically a re-run

 

[Tsumi]

You are trying to frame things as if she didnt kill and torture innocent people. As if she only killed people who deserved it. I can see what you are trying to do by equating Victorias actions as if she killed evil cult leaders. And don't pretend you weren't trying to do this, because why bring such a point up that isn't equitable to her. Not to mention you trying to soften things by first equating some poor starving person stealing, as if its anyway whether agree or disagree on the same level as the horrendous shit she did.

She isn't someone who should get a lighter sentence because of her backstory. What she did in return wasnt her stealing to feed her starving malnourished belly and you know this. Nor is she someone who only killed and tortured the guilty. Stop with the false equivalency.

I didn't frame it as such, and it shows that you are incapable of understanding perspectives outside your own. I said that Victoria has been raised in an environment where everyone is a potential enemy. To her, no one is an innocent bystander because the concept doesn't exist for her.

 

[Brobobo]

So she's both "finished her punishment" (at which case her redemption should have no issues), detached from the current plot (which means she has not done any crimes since her punishment), but also a lot of people still hold the strong opinions on her as the person who does bad things (that she hasn't done since punishment), who has not gotten any punishment (that she has, and apparently already finished with)

So is she done or not? Irrelevant or not? Really seems like y'all are holding on to your hatreds for the character she was at the beginning of the story, even after Raoul himself is able to at least put her back on the examination stand.



So like right now? Where she is healed from her bug crucifixion, brought into hell, and serve as his "bride" to spite her father?

Raoul is currently using her as a convenient tool for his purposes, not forgiven her, even has shown intent to torment her going forward, its his "servants" that are looking into her past.
If the victims havent forgiven her, what is the point in trying to "redeem" her? I dont personally give much of a shit about her, i just find this sudden backstory for a character to be a break from the current story which already seems to be dragging on when we have active plots that id much rather see fleshed out and finished than this.

 

[Graywing]

Having a tragic back story doesn't excuse you for your actions. It just tries to have people empathize with your situation. You can still empathize and want them to be punished for what they've done. They're not mutually exclusive. Just like Mine from Shield Hero, she was controlled by the mad goddess from birth so I empathize with her (actually more so as she truly didn't have a say in the matter from birth), but that doesn't excuse punishment. Her victims also need justice, even if she's a victim herself. Hopefully Raoul will give that to her. In his own twisted way. Also hope that in the end that Raoul will also face justice because he demands from people something that he cannot give himself. Someone needs to reset the world and it will not be him unfortunately. Thanks for the chapter!!!

 

[MDC]

I feel like 100+ chapters in of just pure revenge is a bad point to start exploring the villains backstory, or any backstory for that matter

 

[MiguelH224]

Typical, humans breeding monsters


Atp you cannot blame her for ending up the way she did

 

[MiguelH224]

She had a hard life, thats sad.

Shes also just kind of a piece of shit.

Please kindly fuck off with the "lets make the bad person seem good so we can present moral conflict so that the hero can forgive them and pretend like nothing was wrong at all"

The point is not to forgive what she did, this is literally just showing us the root cause of her turning out the way she did

 

[LecherousLeech]

it's always funny when the emo grimdark revenge manga hit the point where they try to start justifying and redeeming characters, like with redo healer or remonster

Explaining is not the same as justifying. We won’t know if it’s being justified until we see the outcome of her final fate.

 

[Doomroar]

The author has been hospitalized after they got a hernia, trying to lift Victoria by doing all this character whitewashing

 

[Volstgalph]

 

[Homuranagi]

I'm being somewhat neutral about this by saying yeah it's okay to be empathetic and still shouldn't excuse her at all but then I realized, if a kid is manipulated and brainwashed by higher beings and did evil for them who would you point fingers at? Not the child. Even as she grew to her adult self, she wasn't corrected, her environment is still evil, she had no good moral to learn from. She's punished for being a puppet by things she has no power over. It's only mercy for a chance of redemption, this isn't just being moved by her sad story. Raoul granted some villagers a chance at his "heaven" it's hypocrisy if he cherry picks when he goes around with a revenge honor code

 

[Grailm]

I didn't frame it as such, and it shows that you are incapable of understanding perspectives outside your own. I said that Victoria has been raised in an environment where everyone is a potential enemy. To her, no one is an innocent bystander because the concept doesn't exist for her.

You say this as if it in anyway annuls her of her actions. It does not and you know what you are trying to do by acting like she deserves a lighter sentence because of her way of thinking. That is no excuse and is just as stupid as people who get caught in a lie coming up with fanciful excuses as saying "I know what my truth is." Your word games aren't working.