Imasara desu ga, Osananajimi wo Suki ni Natte Shimaimashita - Ch. 22 - It Happened, A Year, and a Half Ago

[LordTartaros]

Who cares whatever

 

[Rafalga]

If Yuu was actually in love with the other girl all along, and he was the initiator, then people would likely have a much milder reaction.

But we don't know anything concerning the male lead's side. Everything so far was strictly in the mind of FMC. People are jumping the gun with their reaction imo. He might as well be completely in love with Yumi still for all we know. People just assumed things since the narrative was so one sided.

We are now seeing the much needed side of the male lead. I don't know why this is rubbing people the wrong way unless they were as delusional as the FMC. We don't even know what happened with their arguement which resaulted with the slap and kiss last chapter.

It was a great addition by the author instead of going yet another shallow safe romcom #421245 of the season. If you care to read the previous chapters again, there was not really a "fluffy" premise to begin with unless you take the FMC's one sided delusions not as an unreliable narrator that she really is.

 

[blehblehblahblah]

Thank you to the author for giving me 100+ comments to read while I eat my breakfast.

In all seriousness, I can't find myself being too upset at this direction, I just don't know if manga is a good medium for the narrative devices. Also, I do feel like Ayami would be a bit more of a compelling character to me without the preexisting emotional baggage that we're supposed to carry throughout what's going to be her backstory. It feels like a safety net for actions that would usually be seen as much worse, left to be more of just mildly displeasing when you have to think "Ah, but this girl was trying to sell herself to old men at some point in her life". Like, I wish she was just living a relatively plain life (although perhaps that would just throw her to the wolves on twitter/here even more).

 

[AkodoRyu]

But we don't know anything concerning the male lead's side.

This is inconsequential at this point. Like I've said, if it was him pursuing Yumi all along and initiating, it would be fine (at least for me - some signs could have been interpreted that way, so sure). But it's not what happened. It's Yumi explicitly hiding the fact that he is her ex from her best friend, knowing how excited said best friend was about meeting him during the festival, and going for the kiss anyway. There is a place in the 9th circle for people like her.

 

[someonewhodraws]

It's now 7.7* now. Surely this is as low as it can be?

7.64 now and probably won't stop, especially after this poor excuse of justifying a backstabbing bitch

 

[wrpd_mnd]

It's Yumi explicitly hiding the fact that he is her ex from her best friend, knowing how excited said best friend was about meeting him during the festival, and going for the kiss anyway. There is a place in the 9th circle for people like her.

Did you miss the part about her not knowing it was him because Hikari calls him "Takkun" instead of "Yuu"? None of this was premeditated.

 

[mgRdr]

Did you miss the part about her not knowing it was him because Hikari calls him "Takkun" instead of "Yuu"? None of this was premeditated.

I am 90% sure by the time she went for the kiss, she was well aware of the connection.

 

[brian0057]

I honestly don't mind the drama.
Maybe it wasn't handled in the best way but I'm here for the story. And conflict is the driving force of any story.
Be it between lovers, rivals, enemy factions, or even against nature, conflict is what makes a story. Without it, you just have worldbuilding. Unless your name is J.R.R. Tolkien, don't.

I just don't know if manga is a good medium for the narrative devices

It can be. The problem is the serialized format of the medium. They can't plan things out like in a novel (or rather, they can but it's a lot riskier), and they live and die by their popularity. That makes foreshadowing something of a challenge at first, since you don't know if your story will still be running by the following issue. Once you've cemented yourself, you can do all the foreshadowing you want. This is why One Piece levels of foreshadowing are the exception and not the rule.

Serialized manga would benefit greatly from adhering a lot more to Chekov's Gun, given their circumstances.

 

[happypurple]

Laying it on reallll thick.

 

[Rafalga]

This is inconsequential at this point. Like I've said, if it was him pursuing Yumi all along and initiating, it would be fine (at least for me - some signs could have been interpreted that way, so sure). But it's not what happened. It's Yumi explicitly hiding the fact that he is her ex from her best friend, knowing how excited said best friend was about meeting him during the festival, and going for the kiss anyway. There is a place in the 9th circle for people like her.

You are assumeing a lot of things with no information. He was strictly trying to avoid going to the festival until getting guilt tripped so there is obviously something way more complicated going on. FMC is the clueless one in this situation and way out of her depth.

Again, we don't know what their history is which we are about to find out. Yumi also learned very recently that the one FMC was talking about was actually her ex. She probably figured it out when she seen him with her during the festival and she ran to the classroom to hide where dude actualy found her and they started to argue.

People projecting a lot of malice to her behaviour when we have not shown anything of the sort. Which is due to the narrative being only from FMC's POV.

 

[wrpd_mnd]

I am 90% sure by the time she went for the kiss, she was well aware of the connection.

By that point, yes. But she wasn't "cheering Hikari on" while knowing.

 

[Deadlybat]

But we don't know anything concerning the male lead's side. Everything so far was strictly in the mind of FMC. People are jumping the gun with their reaction imo. He might as well be completely in love with Yumi still for all we know. People just assumed things since the narrative was so one sided.

We are now seeing the much needed side of the male lead. I don't know why this is rubbing people the wrong way unless they were as delusional as the FMC. We don't even know what happened with their arguement which resaulted with the slap and kiss last chapter.

It was a great addition by the author instead of going yet another shallow safe romcom #421245 of the season. If you care to read the previous chapters again, there was not really a "fluffy" premise to begin with unless you take the FMC's one sided delusions not as an unreliable narrator that she really is.

First off, we’re not seeing the male lead’s perspective, we’re seeing Ayami’s. Big difference. Second, I find it funny that you're criticizing others for making assumptions, yet you're quick to label Hikari as delusional.

 

[Rafalga]

Have a perfect summery for the whole groundwork of this chapters from reddit;

https://imgur.com/pt8HI12

 

[Rafalga]

First off, we’re not seeing the male lead’s perspective, we’re seeing Ayami’s. Big difference. Second, I find it funny that you're criticizing others for making assumptions, yet you're quick to label Hikari as delusional.

She is though? She just assumes everything the dudes says to her side while it wasn't even certain that was the case.

 

[kephan]

Girl I do not care about your feelings you are NOT the main character

 

[Deadlybat]

She is though? She just assumes everything the dudes says to her side while it wasn't even certain that was the case.

I think it's premature to label Hikari as delusional. As you mentioned, we don't have the male lead's perspective, and since the story is currently focused on Ayami's point of view, it seems we won’t be seeing his side anytime soon.

 

[wrpd_mnd]

I think it's premature to label Hikari as delusional. As you mentioned, we don't have the male lead's perspective, and since the story is currently focused on Ayami's point of view, it seems we won’t be seeing his side anytime soon.

Delusional is the wrong word, but her friends commented early on that she basically lives in her own world.

 

[story645]

It feels like a safety net for actions that would usually be seen as much worse, left to be more of just mildly displeasing when you have to think "Ah, but this girl was trying to sell herself to old men at some point in her life". Like, I wish she was just living a relatively plain life

Same, to me it feels almost like providing a permission structure for the ML hooking up w/ her 'cause she needed the support, especially if the author is also gonna layer in his insecurity being a factor. Like you, I'd prefer a plainer "he liked this cool girl who approached him and just hooked up w/ her" b/c like that feels more honest and less broken bird in service of ML. Which

It was a great addition by the author instead of going yet another shallow safe romcom #421245 of the season.

Male lead gets entangled w/ girl who is not female lead b/c her home life is a wreck is one of the most common ways to write an "experienced" male lead and here particularly is coming across as a shallow safe way to add drama.

Like yes it could be interesting if everything was one sided and in her head ... hell Boys Abyss just played this out, including the "light" girl spiraling out into full on bonkers, but I was reading this b/c it's not Boy's Abyss.

 

[blehblehblahblah]

It can be. The problem is the serialized format of the medium. They can't plan things out like in a novel (or rather, they can but it's a lot riskier), and they live and die by their popularity. That makes foreshadowing something of a challenge at first, since you don't know if your story will still be running by the following issue.

I do agree that serialization plays a factor, but this manga is self-published. This makes very, very little money(if any at all; the only money I can see this making is donations or Yom's twitter account revenue) and all of the loss/gain lies in attention. However, I don't think the foreshadowing was meant to be loud or noticeable at all, in fact I feel as if it was the opposite.

What I think is the issue for this manga in particular is the presentation and the fact that the hints were very hard to notice if not just not hints at all to an average reader, combined with Yom's very friendly artstyle giving the manga that childlike feel. To an extent, if the author was going for this, I can understand it. I just feel like it's such a strong attempt at immersing the reader into the perspective of FMC for her arc to sell the shock that the return doesn't seem there, and I even find myself sympathizing with some of the outrage.

IDK, this manga is free to consume and read to everyone, so it's meh to me, but I can't fathom how people would feel if they paid or even just had to watch ads to read this after the last 20 chapters.

 

[huong02062005]

why's there the tragedy tag?