Dex-chan lover
- Joined
- Dec 6, 2019
- Messages
- 1,066
At this point Yami can only be forgiven if she died of ass cancer.
"I'm dating someone else" (if he was still dating Aya) would also cause most sensible people to drop it and would have probably prevented the follow up on how he deeply he was into Hikari at the time. If he wasn't dating her at the time, then yeah I agree that the response is fine - that's one of the reasons I think they're broken up by then.He was trying to move on to a different topic, specifically about their friends' relationship and quietly drop it.
I think he reads as the standard wishy washy romance male protag - start of the manga he goes along w/ Hikari's whims, in the flashback he likes Hikari but goes along with Ayami's whims, doesn't really assert himself and a good chunk of his "tactfulness" is just evasiveness that's gonna backfire - which is what happened, he avoided mentioning Aya and instead Hikari got smacked in the face w/ it.I mean, that would assume Yuu is the standard dumbass romcom male protagonist when the guy has shown multiple time to be a bit more observant and tactful than that.
Mainly b/c the hypothetical I was running with was that him and Aya were dating at the time of those conversations, where he'd be bringing up Aya cause she's his girlfriend who he cares about so he'd want Hikari to know that the reason he got over his inferiority was cause of his awesome girlfriend.Just like how he doesn't bring up Hikari to Ayami in this chapter unless he absolutely has to, why would he bring up a different girl with Hikari?
And if he said that it would kill the entire vibe of the group, not to mention cause Hikari to spiral downward. I mean in chapter 12 she overheard him telling his kouhai he likes someone else that it bothered her to the point it was the main focus of the first page of chapter 13. He literally has no way to win in that situation other than telling his dumbass friend to drop it quietly, which failed."I'm dating someone else" (if he was still dating Aya) would also cause most sensible people to drop it and would have probably prevented the follow up on how he deeply he was into Hikari at the time.
I don't think I've seen him follow Hikari's whim in the first few chapters. First chapter is him just reading manga with her, second chapter is Hikari meeting him in the train station and talking, and in the WR, her having some sort of delusion about thinking that the rest of the train ride goers think of them as GF and BF, third chapter is him asleep, with Hikari trying to wake him up like one of those Bishojo games and the fourth chapter is Hikari watching him about to masturbate. Also, him moving on to Ayami, what else is the guy supposed to do? Hikari, in his mind, was never going to love him back, and carrying the torch for her is just plain unhealthy.I think he reads as the standard wishy washy romance male protag - start of the manga he goes along w/ Hikari's whims, in the flashback he likes Hikari but goes along with Ayami's whims, doesn't really assert himself and a good chunk of his "tactfulness" is just evasiveness that's gonna backfire - which is what happened, he avoided mentioning Aya and instead Hikari got smacked in the face w/ it.
Him bringing up Aya seems OOC for him.Mainly b/c the hypothetical I was running with was that him and Aya were dating at the time of those conversations, where he'd be bringing up Aya cause she's his girlfriend who he cares about so he'd want Hikari to know that the reason he got over his inferiority was cause of his awesome girlfriend.
Now this sounds really funny. They are reading in both chapters except here they are reading while cuddling which is a perfectly normal thing for a couple. However that "cuddling" element from "reading while cuddling" somehow convinces you that their relationship fully relies on physical contact.And no, skinship isn't the primary way Yuu and Hikari interact - hell the contrast between the first chapter and this one is that here they're cuddling while in the first chapter they're reading.
But there are no tensions shown so far, only Yami's insecurities, which makes sense for a girl with a low self-esteem. And Yuu clearly is trying to not cause her any more worries which she is thankful for. Yet somehow you manage to see it as unhealthy.They break up and there are unresolved tensions so uh no don't think "this relationship has problems" is too deep a read.
And if he said that it would kill the entire vibe of the group, not to mention cause Hikari to spiral downward. I mean in chapter 12 she overheard him telling his kouhai he likes someone else that it bothered her to the point it was the main focus of the first page of chapter 13.
Totally agree if he's not dating Aya (which is what I think is going on). Also that, that kouhai scene is a prime example of why it'd be weird for him to not be upfront about having a gf if he'd had one (despite killing vibe/Hikari spiraling) b/c he was quite direct in shutting down the kouhai.Him bringing up Aya seems OOC for him.
Probably should have said first part, but like there's the amusement park, the fireworks show, and going to the school fest despite his objections.I don't think I've seen him follow Hikari's whim in the first few chapters.
Things can totally make sense and still be unhealthy? Like Yami not going to school in part cause she doesn't want to run into Hikari is both understandable and unhealthy.only Yami's insecurities, which makes sense for a girl with a low self-esteem
How do you not see the difference between two cases?Also that, that kouhai scene is a prime example of why it'd be weird for him to not be upfront about having a gf if he'd had one (despite killing vibe/Hikari spiraling) b/c he was quite direct in shutting down the kouhai.
I think you're overestimating the influence. It's normal for her to be worried about the girl who Yuu had a crush on for a very long time and who he still has some lingering feelings for (according to Yami). But it doesn't seem to affect their relationship and how she behaves with him, except for those questions. In the end, unhealthy means having a negative influence, which doesn't seem to be the case so far.but also a relationship where one person feels like they're competing with an old love
I think the point of this chapter was to show that Yami does know about the (now faceless and nameless) childhood friend and howmuch she effected him overall so it will makes more sense now if the reason for their break up was indeed due to her learning that it was Hikari in ch.11. She already has confidence issues so it won't be suprising that she just wanted to push Yuu to Hikari's direction after learning the truth.I think you're overestimating the influence. It's normal for her to be worried about the girl who Yuu had a crush on for a very long time and who he still has some lingering feelings for (according to Yami). But it doesn't seem to affect their relationship and how she behaves with him, except for those questions. In the end, unhealthy means having a negative influence, which doesn't seem to be the case so far.
I can agree, however, that Yuu's old crush's presence in her school being a part of her not willing to go back might be considered unhealthy. But that's Yami's own life, not her relationship with Yuu.
I agree and that's my theory as well. What I'm saying is that the presence of the said childhood friend doesn't affect the way their relationship works, at least as of now. Yami is not "competing" with the childhood friend, she is just enjoying her time with Yuu while still being a bit worried about his old crush.I think the point of this chapter was to show that Yami does know about the (now faceless and nameless) childhood friend and howmuch she effected him overall so it will makes more sense now if the reason for their break up was indeed due to her learning that it was Hikari in ch.11. She already has confidence issues so it won't be suprising that she just wanted to push Yuu to Hikari's direction after learning the truth.
I'm done arguing for a hypothetical b/c I largely agree w/ you and think that's why they're broken up by then.He was kinda direct because it wouldn't lead to her prying more into his private life, and even if it did, he can just refuse to tell because they don't have that kind of relationship.
Independent of all the insecurity issues, if they were still dating by then (and I think they were broken up by then) then Aya was following along on what her friend thinks is a date w/ her boyfriend and Aya knows the girl doesn't know she exists and like that's a mess even w/o the insecurity spiral. Which in chapter 10, Aya suggests taking him to a family restaurant to confess (which is just a tragicom)k up was indeed due to her learning that it was Hikari in ch.11
Dude is an iron wall now, probably because he's done A through Z with Yami lolIt's not even BSS because she DIDN'T love him first. Ayami did. Hikari just KNEW him first. Now Yuu DID love Hikari first but gave up on her when he failed to get into the same HS as her and she was as disinterested as always.
No NTR or even BSS at all.
It seems likely to me that Hikari only noticed Yuu as a love interest after Yuu change due to his relationship with Ayami.
wait, was that in the past ? so when the girl saw him kissing that girl it was in the future after this arc ?Can we go back to the present time now? Or at least speed up this arc? Seems to me that these chapters are just filler ones.
Correct, and the way yuu was acting, him and yami were already broken up at that point.wait, was that in the past ? so when the girl saw him kissing that girl it was in the future after this arc ?
It was never ntr.You love to see a NTR manga become Vanilla romance Manga.