Imasara desu ga, Osananajimi wo Suki ni Natte Shimaimashita - Ch. 30 - Fireworks

[GennArc]

The issue is context and timing as I’ve tried to explain. This is not the time or place for this, narratively. Like it or not the story, even if you liked it, is shoehorned in at the worst possible moment pacing-wise. I’m not saying Yami can’t be important, or she can’t have a backstory, or even that ALL the events are pointless to discuss, you don’t “introduce” a character during a climax and then immediately dump a volume’s worth of backstory.

It would be like in Star Wars if immediately after Vader says “Luke I am your father” we hard cut to the entirety of Episode’s 1-3.

I disagree and I think this was exactly the place for it. Providing a context for what you consider the climax is much more important than keeping the pace. Because the emotions, characters and stories behind that scene is what matters the most, not the immediate outcome.
If we were still lacking this context, the scene would feel like "an obligatory rival character thrown in just to be defeated by MC". Short flashbacks here and there would just be "adding some backstory to that secondary rival character".
What we have now is two equal (or almost equal) heroines with their own stories of relationship with the MC.

 

[Dingo777]

Also the fact that Yami has been a walking red flag basically from the start, and is just generally completely unlikable to anybody who has experience with that type of person.

I mean yeah. That too. Her relationship with Yuu was insanely toxic and I’d prefer if they could move on from eachother healthily.

 

[Castane]

So this is the power of the NTR Stacy?
Pathetic

 

[Dingo777]

I disagree and I think this was exactly the place for it. Providing a context for what you consider the climax is much more important than keeping the pace. Because the emotions, characters and stories behind that scene is what matters the most, not the immediate outcome.
If we were still lacking this context, the scene would feel like "an obligatory rival character thrown in just to be defeated by MC". Short flashbacks here and there would just be "adding some backstory to that secondary rival character".
What we have now is two equal (or almost equal) heroines with their own stories of relationship with the MC.

I sincerely beg you, never become a writer. The author had every chance to build her up before now. They had every chance to deliver the narrative in a way that would be satisfying AND flow well. The way they chose to do it is exactly the kind of thing they admonish students for in school.

The author wanted a dramatic twist for dramatic twist’s sake and it comes off more like M Night than any competent creator.

 

[Folt]

inbf Hikari's two other friends end up seggsing Yuu in future chapters.

 

[NickieTheFool]

Ok Bye, thanks for all the drama you've caused

 

[nxneil13]

Just to be clear, Chapter 13.5 takes place more than a year after Yami ghosted Yuu.

ngl that makes it worse, tbc im not upset at her self destructions and the toxicity she went through, i understand and relate to some of the stuff she went through. she needs to get therapy and i hope the author gives her some. but im problem with her is that it confirms that she did knew yuu was the same guy that hikari/fmc had liked. thats fucked up that she see never told fmc that she was in a relationship with yuu before.

I remember making a comment ina chapter or two into her backstory that if ayami never knew that yuu was the same guy, you can't fault her for having a prior relationship with yuu, she didn't know it was the same guy, the only thing that i wanted was that when we get back to the present they tell fmc that they had a relationship. This changes it back.

its fucked up that ayami was the same person who was both teasing and helping hikari to get with yuu but never told her that she was in a relationship with him before. you can go back the end of chapter 15 and chapter 10/11 to see ayami trying to push fmc to confess to yuu. if one of your closest friends is helping you trying to get with the guy that you like, and they didn't tell you that they were in a previous relationship with that same guy before, that fucked up. thats so much disrespect and bc they are hiding it from you, its cus of one of three things, its either because 1) theres a problem with the guy that ended the relationship, 2) theres a problem with the girl that ended the relationship, or 3) some outside variable that ended the relationship on unresolved feelings (theres more, but these 3 are the more general theme that can apply to alot). and in this case, its clearly 2 and 3.

and speaking of yuu, we need to see what he is thinking, cus looking back at some of the old chapters, the way he speaks, im getting some warning signs. for anyone who forgotten when this was a fluffy romcom, go back to chapter 12. its crazy rereading this chapter now. im yelling in my own head like yuu, how can you say you're in love with hikari and still go on other dates with other girls. thats wild, but i could be wrong now, cus at the end of the chapter, when he said he was in love with someone he knew long before the twin tails girl, he could have been referring to ayami this entire time. idk how to feel about yuu cus rereading some of these chapters (i haven't reread all of them, just did a couple before the start of the backstory), it is weird seeing that yuu did have some feelings/or did have feelings for fmc when they were younger, moved on to ayami, and then when that didn't work out, falling back in love with hikari/fmc. its weird seeing him go back to fmc cus ayami ended the relationship not him.

again, i don't hate her, i understand the toxic shit she's been dealing with, she needs some help, and i hope she does, but that doesn't excuse the lying she's done to fmc, thats fucked up.



edit:
omg reread chapter 16, its crazy rereading that chapter after this arc. cus now knowing what we know, we find out that yuu's attitude towards which school to go changed because that would be around the time he started dating ayami.



edit 2:
you know what, im starting to hate yuu too, i rereading the older chapters, and im starting to see that the author was planting the seeds of ayami and yuu's relationship before the start of the backstory. Im looking at chapter 18, yuu was clearly hesitant to go to hikari's school festival. I thought it was because he never got into the school, no, i think its because yuu knows that ayami goes to that school now. I think yuu knows that ayami goes to the same school as hikari, and now i gotta ask, did yuu know hikari was friends with ayami, his ex? i want to say no, but im not sure. If yuu knew this entire time that hikari is friends with ayami, imma be even more pissed off.

 

[VINT64]

No forgiveness for hurting an honest man.

 

[GennArc]

I sincerely beg you, never become a writer.

I never intended to but thanks for recs. And same to you by the way.

The author had every chance to build her up before now. They had every chance to deliver the narrative in a way that would be satisfying AND flow well.

Well, he chose not to, and that was even more satisfying and flew well.
He did it without any twists in his previous works and those worked fine too, but here he chose to make one and it worked perfectly.

 

[HunterCO]

this has been such a wild ride man lmaoooo

 

[idk234]

yeah after all of that, i still just don't care

 

[laeus]

"We can't be together, my mother is unhappy and I need to be too"
"but it was your stepfather who cheated on your mother, it's not your fault"
"I don't care, I want to wallow in unnecessary sadness"

She puts everyone else before her happiness, friends and family.

 

[Dingo777]

I never intended to but thanks for recs. And same to you by the way.

Well, he chose not to, and that was even more satisfying and flew well.
He did it without any twists in his previous works and those worked fine too, but here he chose to make one and it worked perfectly.

The overwhelming flood of continual negative reviews says otherwise. Face it dude the story is not being told well, you can still enjoy it but people enjoy badly done shit all the time, doesn’t mean it’s not flawed or poorly executed. Hell even very successful products have flaws and failings but you shouldn’t overlook the fact that those mistakes exist. Folks are angry because the author is mishandling the story and it deserves to be criticized and critiqued.

 

[story645]

None of the involved characters can react to this huge lord dump because this was just Yami thinking to herself.

This author seems pretty intentional about writing an unreliable POV story, first Hikari's and now Ayami's. Interspersed POV with reactions would break the spell b/c characters would call out the parts that are unreliable. A couple of comment sections back, someone pointed out that Hikari and Aya saw the kiss scene differently (Hikari seeing Yuu as shocked, Aya seeing Yuu as being into it).

Am i the only one here that is both team Yami and team Hikari and would be perfectly fine if either of those two ended up with Yuu?

While I have maybe written whole essays on why I think the relationship shown in this arc is toxic, I'm actually team either or. Like they're teens and people have toxic relationships and if Aya and Yuu have grown up since the first round maybe it'd be healthier the second go around. Yuu at least would hopefully be going in w/ a much better perspective on who Aya is.

If anyone thinks her decision was stupid, you never felt truly and deeply undeserving of someone/something.

I think it's a very understandable, quite realistic, very relatable, made total sense in her head, stupid decision. Like it can be all those things at once.

 

[nxneil13]

Most people would feel awkward telling their first love (who is also their childhood friend) that they found someone else, even if that love was unrequited.
As for why there were no rumors, he even lied to his parents and only met Yami in private. And since Hikari never found out either, it's safe to assume he was pretty secretive about it.

in chapter 16, there was a person who said there were rumors in middle school, but i think it was about fmc and yuu, so it would make sense, a lot of people were just focused on the rumor so they didn't notice that there was another girl this entire time.

 

[Nirvana3200]

All right I'll be fair to her. The decision she made is beyond stupid but you have to remember she's a teenager & going self destruct mode made more sense to her than anything else. Plus you have to factor in she grew up in a toxic environment so she is broken girl that will need to seek therapy or some form of help. The story fits real life really well & it doesn't break the immersion. You can disagree with me if you want (that is fine with me) but ask yourself this: what is the stupidest thing you did as a teenager that made no sense now that you are out of high school?
Guess we're done with the dark side of the story & going back to the present. Part of me thinks we'll shift to Yuu's POV for the next arc to which I have to say that it sucks for Yuu that the girl he really liked ghosted him & now he reunited with her in the worst possible situation. Thanks for the translations.

nothing nigga. this bitch hella stupid along with author he doing too much bs

 

[Thyme.Minister]

I was reading seriously until page 14 came and my mind went vine boom and remembered this image and I started laughing hysterically. I'm sorry, lmao

my EXACT reaction LMAOOO

 

[Schernobyl]

I think the big issue is that this drama arc came out of nowhere in what was to this point a fluffy slice of life manga. If there was ample foreshadowing we would have looked forward to the revelation. Instead for a lot of people it's been a painfully long backstory

I mean the english translated title kinds of indicates that it might not be fluffy.

 

[TechnoGamer16]

We do NOT care can we please get back to Hikari now

 

[Schernobyl]

This ISNT “show don’t tell” though, it’s a multi-chapter monologue. It’s basically a fuckin text dump just because you visually see it happen doesn’t mean it’s not “telling”.

The issue is that instead of things being brought up as they become pertinent to the story the author is just offloading all this information now instead. The better way to have done it would be to intersperse the details throughout the narrative as they effect the characters in real time. Yuu doesn’t know this shit, Hikari doesn’t know this shit, so it STILL needs to be actually addressed, which means putting it all as a huge unbroken monologue completely worthless and just drags the pacing to a crawl.

I agree I mean a few text less scenes of her seeing the messages, Flashes of her abusive mother, interspersed with her times with Yuu then the a final scene of her crying as she blocks him would have been better. Show the inner struggle and pain on her face. That would have been better.

The information dump should have come up naturally in pertinent conversations and scenes.