Imasara desu ga, Osananajimi wo Suki ni Natte Shimaimashita - Ch. 38 - Happy End

[Treethatsadog]

Cook that bum.

 

[Taliiiiiiiy]

Hikari response is valid given the situation and yes she should end up with someone else.

So my toxic couple yami and yuu can be together 😌

 

[Taliiiiiiiy]

Absolutely her business when he is lying to her face lol. Loved you since we met? Who you fooling.

Hes not lying also ppl can still be emotionally available for another person while in love with someone.

 

[GennArc]

I was more interested in how people might view him differently if it turned out he knew about Aya-chan’s identity—regardless of his motives. I was asking from a character insight perspective, not making a moral evaluation of his choices.

Isn't that kinda the same thing for most people anyway? The discussion around Yuu since Yami's flashback was mostly people judging his actions based on morals. And when you say

Yuu would also look worse if it turned out he knew that Yami-senpai is Aya-chan.

isn't that a moral evaluation of his choices too? Because I don't see how it could make him a worse character (as opposed to worse person).

 

[Rafalga]

Hypothetical question for those waiting for Yuu's POV:
What would you think of Yuu if it was revealed that—just as Yami realized her ex-boyfriend (Yuu) is actually Ta-kun (the guy Hikari likes)—Yuu also discovered that his ex-girlfriend (Yami-senpai) is none other than Aya-chan, Hikari’s so-called 'best friend'?

Are you trying to learn if these supposed "Yuu suppoters" would shit on him or not if the story unmistakenly painted him in the wrong?

 

[faggegeagegafa]

I was in such a bad mood after a long day at uni, but seeing this chapter and going through the comments has really put me in a good mood. It's always a pleasure experiencing this entertaining train wreck with you all.

 

[Litreara]

Isn't that kinda the same thing for most people anyway? The discussion around Yuu since Yami's flashback was mostly people judging his actions based on morals. And when you say

isn't that a moral evaluation of his choices too? Because I don't see how it could make him a worse character (as opposed to worse person).

Fair point, and yeah, there’s definitely overlap. But when I said he’d “look worse,” I didn’t necessarily mean morally worse as a person—I meant how he comes across to the audience as a character. Like, if he knew about Aya-chan all along, that changes the dynamics of his passivity and how much agency he really had. So it’s more about character insight than saying he's a bad guy.

 

[noleafclover75]

I do understand where people are coming from when it comes to defending Yuu. If there's anything I could tell from Yuu since the beginning is that he is awful at reading any situation which has gotten him into the position he's in. This is self inflicted but this is also the reason I said this is a good learning situation for him

He needs to grow or find his spine. Because how he currently is, he turns every situation around him worse due to how pathetic he acts.

He's lucky he found someone as pathetic as he was with Yami for a short while, but because of how both are so insecure that relationship blew up.

At the moment it seems he has learned nothing from Yami and how her lying to him hurt him. He's turning around and doing the exact same thing to Hikari. It's pathetic and he needs to actually do some real introspection.

Hikari can't trust him how he currently is.

Yami will not find proper support in how he currently is.

He needs to fix himself first but he has yet, at least from what I've seen, to fix anything.

I don't care if these are high schoolers, these are the facts whether they are or not.

Also to the people who say he hasn't lied, he clearly lied to her a few chapters ago and she knew he was lieing. If that wasn't conveyed properly then yom did an awful job of bringing it to life in the manga.

 

[Litreara]

Are you trying to learn if these supposed "Yuu suppoters" would shit on him or not if the story unmistakenly painted him in the wrong?

Not at all. I’m not trying to bait anyone or catch ‘Yuu supporters’ slipping. I was genuinely curious how people’s view of him might shift if the story revealed that through Yuu’s POV, since we don’t have that information yet. It's not about labeling him as ‘good’ or ‘bad,’ but about how a reveal like that would reshape the general understanding of his character.

 

[ErogeMC]

We still don't know his PoV. That's all there is to it. People will hate a character regardless. It's just that Hikari has been shown as a paragon of virtue till now (aside from being somewhat selfish and delusional). So people are taking her side because no stakes wholesome slop romcom readers are not known for their objectivity. Yuu is the source of conflict right now so he will be hated. He should have waited for 5 more years like a wall flower and hope for Hikari to fall for him since apperantly, he has no other function.

Alas, until we get Yuu's POV as well to learn the whole picture, pointlessly hating a character is meaningless.

I'm on team "everyone should walk away". Hikari is too immature, Yami has bigger problems to solve and Yuu should have moved on from this puppy love mixed with inferiority complex already.

Reminds me of when people treated Setsuna as a victim in WA2 who Hikari is based off of though in this case Hikari does not have a lot of negative qualities that Setsuna has and even if we get a Yuu POV he is still gonna be hated for being another Haruki

 

[Rafalga]

Not at all. I’m not trying to bait anyone or catch ‘Yuu supporters’ slipping. I was genuinely curious how people’s view of him might shift if the story revealed that through Yuu’s POV, since we don’t have that information yet. It's not about labeling him as ‘good’ or ‘bad,’ but about how a reveal like that would reshape the general understanding of his character.

Well that would make him a scheming opportunist who wants to have his cake and eat it too. So not very good.

 

[noleafclover75]

Not at all. I’m not trying to bait anyone or catch ‘Yuu supporters’ slipping. I was genuinely curious how people’s view of him might shift if the story revealed that through Yuu’s POV, since we don’t have that information yet. It's not about labeling him as ‘good’ or ‘bad,’ but about how a reveal like that would reshape the general understanding of his character.

More context is always welcome, I know it could change my mind on things with more context, as it should. I could definitely feel one way now but if something comes to light I can always shift.

We can only work within the context we're given.

If I feel like Hikari caused some kind of deep seeded issue from the past, I would call it out.

 

[Rafalga]

If I feel like Hikari caused some kind of deep seeded issue from the past, I would call it out.

There is this "3rd heartbreak" comment in the WN that's been bothering me. I think we might see some very off-handed comments from past Hikari that caused this unshakeable reluctance of Yuu. Still, it all comes down to his PoV, past and present.

 

[gmanhunt]

Hikarikeks, /ourgirl/ is best girl

 

[HellJester]

There is this "3rd heartbreak" comment in the WN that's been bothering me. I think we might see some very off-handed comments from past Hikari that caused this unshakeable reluctance of Yuu. Still, it all comes down to his PoV, past and present.

Yuu mentioned 4 total heartbreaks if memory serves and that Hikari caused three of them (either directly or indirectly).

There's been a lot of speculation from others and I think the consensus is thus:

1) 1st heartbreak (direct) most likely the moment in the past that Hikari tried to hook Yuu up with another girl or girls thus letting Yuu know that Hikari didn't see him as a romantic prospect. I believe this was in middle school.
2) 2nd heartbreak (indirect) most likely the moment that Yuu failed to get into Hikari's high school and led to the Yami incident
3) 3rd heartbreak (non-Hikari) most likely Yami ghosting him right as he was starting to get serious about her
4) 4th heartbreak (direct) is what we just witnessed in the latest chapter, i.e. Hikari directly rejecting his confession

 

[noleafclover75]

There is this "3rd heartbreak" comment in the WN that's been bothering me. I think we might see some very off-handed comments from past Hikari that caused this unshakeable reluctance of Yuu. Still, it all comes down to his PoV, past and present.

We will get the context most likely. Maruto would not make something so obvious and not expand on it.

 

[Rafalga]

Yuu mentioned 4 total heartbreaks if memory serves and that Hikari caused three of them (either directly or indirectly).

There's been a lot of speculation from others and I think the consensus is thus:

1) 1st heartbreak (direct) most likely the moment in the past that Hikari tried to hook Yuu up with another girl or girls thus letting Yuu know that Hikari didn't see him as a romantic prospect. I believe this was in middle school.
2) 2nd heartbreak (indirect) most likely the moment that Yuu failed to get into Hikari's high school and led to the Yami incident
3) 3rd heartbreak (non-Hikari) most likely Yami ghosting him right as he was starting to get serious about her
4) 4th heartbreak (direct) is what we just witnessed in the latest chapter, i.e. Hikari directly rejecting his confession

All is well except the 2nd one since putting that blame on Hikari is downright nonsensical. He hasn't been that petty from the things we've seen so far.

 

[GennArc]

All is well except the 2nd one since putting that blame on Hikari is downright nonsensical. He hasn't been that petty from the things we've seen so far.

It's most likely not about blaming or something, it's just a heartbreak related to Hikari.

 

[HellJester]

It's most likely not about blaming or something, it's just a heartbreak related to Hikari.

Yeah. As much as I am grateful for being able to read the novel in English and am grateful that people are taking their personal time to translate both the novel and manga, sometimes the translations are...iffy or ambiguous...especially the novelization. Which is a shame because the novelization adds much needed insight and sometimes I'm left wondering if what I'm reading is the end-all be-all meaning.

I mean the manga says Hikari and the latest novelization said Youkari so I'm sometimes left scratching my head.

 

[HipoSin]

The series has already proven that context is important. I get the feeling we are either going to find out he didn't have as much agency in that kiss as we think he did, or we're going to find out she's done enough in the past to give him those doubts.

Personally though, I think her reaction is somewhat valid. As long as she intends to figure out whatever the truth is and confronts her friend about it. But if she just ignores her friends' involvement, I think she'll lash out because she isn't going to have the perfect first love and kiss, she seems to want, but doesn't understand.