Imokusa Reijou desu ga Akuyaku Reisoku wo Tasuketara Kiniiraremashita - Vol. 3 Ch. 11 - Unfashionable Lady, Reunion with the Family

[RHen]

Thanks for the translation. Kambing (GOAT) scanlantion

 

[IvanDFakkov]

goddamn. where's guillotine-chan when you need him

Too busy following Mia-sama :v

 

[Reydrago]

Too busy following Mia-sama :v

She should have asked Katarina how to avoid bad end....she does that in one run...

 

[AnnePackrat]

We need Scarlet from that one manga May I Ask For One Final Thing? to come punch the fat fuck father a bunch of times.

 

[Jakeh24]

AYYYY! WE GOTTA PROTACT THIS COUPLE AT ALL COST!!!!

Shame he raised a huge fuckin flag at the end, it had been creeping all chapter then boom.

 

[theshet]

Damn, thanks for the translation! I just want our FL to be happy, I hate that she is worried about losing the man who brought her up from the depths.

The one behind the prince is

Spoiler

The Travelling merchant also known as the first prince

Thanks for the spoiler! Can't wait to see how this plays out. Pls feel free to spoil more if you have time!

 

[Wildtale]

Given they've lost all faculties, the villains in this story are basically zombies. XD

Anywho, great chapter! Looking forward to the next one! ^w^

 

[KingsMan12]

We need Scarlet from that one manga May I Ask For One Final Thing? to come punch the fat fuck father a bunch of times.

He's a nice punching bag

 

[Nijitori]

I swear to all fuck, if this man-thot is also tangoing in the sheets with his mother in law.

 

[LupusVir]

I can't believe that her father is such an idiot. Like, separate from everything else like the fashion general pig-headedness, punching a woman in public with no provocation and trying to stab a guy with a fork?

 

[Gudachiz]

to the gallows to the dad, the prince consort(robin)
also Nazel's face was very accurate

 

[tenshineko]

Dad is so volatile that it’s hard to believe that he has any power at all. Why do they invite him to parties, and why does he go if he doesn’t approve of “modern” styles? Also…it’s one thing for her family to be crazy about old fashioned styles, but…where did her dad and grandfather find wives that were also willing to be that crazy?

 

[BananowyJE]

lol, he literally had no power over Agnes, she was disowned and married off to the fucking duke. Not only that, he tried to attack a duchess and then murder a duke. All at the party organized by a 2nd friggin' prince. Guy should have been killed by the guards instantly. At the very least, their whole house should be destroyed for such a heavy crime.

 

[Snailman32]

I'm surprised it took so long for Evantale to be exposed, considering how he did not hesitate to attack his daughter and her husband in public

 

[d_a_renoir]

After seeing the sus merchant from last time and now this, I am convinced that was the first prince. He either had been pretending to be sick to avoid attention or he was recently healed from his illness somehow.

 

[Kaarme]

It would be extraordinarily strange if the princess could separate Nazel and Agnes. They should be married already. Marriage was quite an until death do us part affair in the past, for heavy political and religious reasons. Though naturally nothing says in that bizarre kingdom anything applies. But assuming the kingdom isn't even weirder than anyone could imagine, would the royals really give essential power and responsibilities to an individual they previously punished for crimes he wasn't guilty of? Sounds like bullshit to me. If you betray someone, you don't hire him months later to be your right hand man.

 

[blackLuna]

While Japanese popular fiction persists in using “the Middle Ages” for everything between the Classical Period and the Industrial Age, this story is plainly set in a period like that of the Enlightenment. Between the Middle Ages and the Enlightenment, Western Civilization had the Renaissance and the Reformation (with a Counter-Reformation).

I think it's a mistranslation: East Asia divides it's time-periods differently (since the historical divisions which make sense for the Western World don't make sense for their history). I'm guessing the actual term used means something like pre-contemporary, or pre-Modern (as in pre-World War I).

Unfortunately translators default to "Mediæval" (which means they clearly know absolutely nothing about the actual European Middle Ages). Its normally defined as lasting from the withdrawal / fall of the Western Roman Empire to the arrival of the Renaissance / Reformation — per consequence there's tons of regional variation: while it mostly is considered to have begun in the early 5th century (the 7th to 8th-century for parts of Europe which were under the cultural auspices of the Eastern half, the Byzantine Empire), in Italy it ended as early as the early-15th century, whereas in places like the British Isles or what was the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth, it lasts until the mid-16th century. (Similarly, the stages known as the Dark Ages, the Feudal Period, the High Middle Ages, and the Late Middle Ages are likewise defined regionally. For starters, the Dark Ages refers any extended period with little to no stable political structure following a period of great stability — for Great Britain, this refers to both the Sub-Roman and most, if not all of the Anglo-Saxon; the Sub-Roman period alone for France as a whole; while for Greece and Anatolia, this refers to the Late Bronze Age Collapse. As implied by the British Dark Ages being divided into two periods, for many locations, these general divisions are themselves subdivided. Additionally, the Late Middle Ages only occurred in regions where the Renaissance occurred later or was less pronounced / more gradual — so, the British Isles, Central and Eastern Europe, the Low Countries in the historical sense, and parts of France.)

Also, from styles and such, the historical period this work is based on is a [warped] early-to-mid-19th century, and the Evantale family is using exaggerated hybrid 16th and 18th-century fashion… which makes the corset thing extremely ironic: the Evantale family is implied to practice tightlacing, which is mostly a late-19th century/pre-WWI style (and, contrary to popular belief, one that was never universally accepted and sometimes outright considered harmful in various ways — in fact, in one editorial exchange on the subject a woman proudly described using it to "correct" the behaviour of her step-son and some lively young ladies, which was responded to in the following issue with its use in those cases rightly being deemed egregious abuse to the girls and boy — many women preferred lacing to fit, sometimes using soft material for the front). Prior to then, people basically always used corsets in a heathy manner, with the only issue being the absence of elastic materials.

For the European gene pool with its frequently more heavily endowed figures, the switch from corsets to modern bras has actually resulted in more health problems (even when properly fitted, a rarity, especially since they need to fit exactly… which is never taught in health classes) — so women with larger breasts are far more likely to suffer from back and spine problems than they were two centuries ago, and from an earlier age. (Corsets direct the excess weight to the many back muscles, while modern bras put all the weight on the shoulders — if you're more endowed or you're in a stage in your menstrual cycle where your breasts are retaining more water and are thus heavier, that's a significant problem. In a way, we've gone backwards, even the few Mediæval examples we've found were better, since they directed the weight to both the back and the shoulders. So much for progress.)

 

[Oeconomist]

I think it's a mistranslation:

The period in Japan called “中世” [“Chuusei”] (1068–1600), literally “Middle Age” and sometimes translated as “Medi[a]eval [Period]”, was characterized by feudalism, whereas these stories are almost always set in social orders in which serfdom does not prevail; and while various ranks continue amongst the nobility, actual vassalage is not usually a feature. Moreover, by the end of the Chuusei, the European Reformation was well underway but the Enlightenment was half a century or more in the future.

(Chuusei was followed by the Edo period (1600–1868), sometimes called “Early Modern”.)

But the real issue here is that we have a bunch of people raised in the West, who will pontificate about European history, informed by things such as these translations, rather than by having ever read a proper history book.

 

[blackLuna]

Guy should have been killed by the guards instantly. At the very least, their whole house should be destroyed for such a heavy crime.

Please stop and think before saying anything like that. Only dictatorships and despots are ever that extreme and blood thirsty. (In part because it's terrible pragmaticly, let alone morally).

Discourtesy or an individual acting out, even the head of household, would not result in the destruction of the entire household, ever, unless the person who was disrespected was both royal/imperial and intolerant. Even in Imperial China, outside of what amounts to high treason (clearly not what's going on here), only the immediate household, and perhaps the family's exact noble rank, would be in any danger (in this case, apart from the husband, it would probably only be the wife, who clearly agrees with him — their son is young enough that his treatment would depend on the magistrate overseeing the case).

This is a faux Western setting, and the author is clearly not completely ignorant — although they're using their artistic license excessively, it's far from an egregious example (thus the public "condemnation" and unilateral breaking of an engagement being considered scandalous in and of itself).

By and large, in the Western World, guilt by association has never been a valid legal concept, even in Antiquity (in fact, the Torah outright bans punishing relatives and other law codes of the ancient Middle/Near East imply the same, meanwhile no recorded Roman law allowed it — which, given how legalistic they were, means they had no legal tradition of that either — the remainder of the Tanakh and the Christian New Testament go a step further declaring sin to only be on the soul of the perpetrator, which greatly influenced subsequent Western legal codes). Aside from anti-Semites, it only ever went as far as "taint of blood" (which banned relatives of individuals convicted of high treason or the equivalent from gaining high rank or office for a set number of generations except with a pardon — despite the name, it was primarily considered a practical consideration to avoid potential revenge, rather than actually being a moral failing or "taint").

While, socially, people have the reprehensible tendency to debase individuals who are related to criminals (look at what happened to the Booth family), being related to a criminal has never been a crime in the Western World. This is in part because as a whole Western Civilization is a guilt culture. East Asian cultures, especially China, were historically notable shame cultures — thus it was not considered "wrong" for relatives of criminals to be punished as well.

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I can't believe that her father is such an idiot. Like, separate from everything else like the fashion general pig-headedness, punching a woman in public with no provocation and trying to stab a guy with a fork?

It's worse than that. First, the guy actually grabbed a fork and knife, so that's attempted assault by itself. Secondly, he calls Nazelbert a criminal, despite Nazelbert having never been convicted or officially tried or punished for a crime, which is libellous. (Prince Leonard calls him out on both accounts.) Moreover, historically people were much more careful about their behaviour in public, so if someone acted out like that in public, it would be assumed that their behaviour behind closed doors was far worse. Usually, they weren't wrong unless the person who had acted out had been actually provoked (as you said, obviously, here there's no actual provocation, just a controlling, abusive sleaze and his wife, who's of much the same mind).

Spoiler: For the record, according to the novel:

Paul only follows his parents' opinions and beliefs at this point because that's basically all that he's been exposed to (beyond Agnes, and with their previous lack of closeness together with his parents' reactions and responses to her, he's basically been prevented from taking her opinions seriously). Thanks to his youth and lack of involvement with this incident, he's the only member of the family who is allowed to go to balls and other social functions — so his parents send him, a twelve-year old, to handle the family's social scene on his own (which is bad enough by itself, let alone when your family's reputation is as bad as theirs is). As soon as he gets this actual exposure to society and other opinions, he becomes uncertain and ends up running away from home… to Agnes (in part because he wants to know her take on things, in part because his parents were clearly getting involved with something bad, and in part because he has nowhere else to run). He almost immediately shapes up and even reports his family's corruption and subsequent involvement with what turns out to be treason (the manga is different here).

Also, you know those heavy dresses, tightlaced corsets, and tiny shoes Agnes was forced to wear? Dispite his shoes fitting reasonably well, Paul's clothing isn't any better. His are worn thin from generations of use (as a result, he apparently got sick a lot before Agnes and Nazelbert take him in) while the stuffing for his codpiece is uncomfortable, falling apart, and smells of what is most likely sweat… hopefully (historically, stuffing was tailored or fit to the individual, much like a modern jockstrap, and frequently replaced to prevent these problems). The Evantale husband and wife clearly don't believe in giving their children clean, properly fitting clothing, especially where it's most important.