Isekai Yakkyoku - Ch. 55 - Palle and the Parallel World Pharmacy

[theShear]

You're dodging the point of the discussion. Palle should not be reacting so emotionally to these claims. You've also mischaracterized the claims as baseless when they're anything but.

He used the word "Baseless" from the view of his Brother "at that point". I mean think about what Falma did. He just told his brother he can identify a sickness his compatriots from the "Medical Academy" failed to identify. His "Teenage" brother did. And he did so "before" he a proper examination, something every proper doctor would scoff at even today.
Do note that a few moments later Falma proves his words are not baseless at which points he starts dropping the attitude.

 

[residentFATBOY]

He used the word "Baseless" from the view of his Brother "at that point". I mean think about what Falma did. He just told his brother he can identify a sickness his compatriots from the "Medical Academy" failed to identify. His "Teenage" brother did. And he did so "before" he a proper examination, something every proper doctor would scoff at even today.
Do note that a few moments later Falma proves his words are not baseless at which points he starts dropping the attitude.

This is also aside the point. Refer to gmhh's comment.

 

[theShear]

This is also aside the point. Refer to gmhh's comment.

I went over it again and I still wouldn't say that's beside the point. Don't forget the brother is not a medical robot but a human being with human emotion. He is also not a doctor with decades of experience but a young man. Honestly I do want to slap the guy for several reasons but him being sceptical of what Falma is claiming is not one. Do remember that the one doing so is a Young Teenager who last the Brother saw him was many things but not a medical prodigy blessed by the Medicine god. A point gmhh also acknowledged.

Also he does drop the attitude quickly once Falma presents evidence once it starts finally sink. As I said before. he drops the "questioning" what he sees and instead "Asks questions" instead.

Honestly looking over it I think we all actually mean the same thing but words are hard

 

[captain_crunch]

I diagnose him with a case of being mr slappy. Kapow

 

[cash5891]

He's just skeptical, which is normal. The guy was living under the rock the whole time that he didn't even know that his brother is a big shot in his own country.

There's a difference between being skeptical and just being downright idiotic. It's normal to be skeptical that one's little brother who has (as far as is known) no accomplishments and no merit would be a hotshot genius miracle-worker. It's borderline retardation to not stop for a moment and consider why so many other people in higher positions of authority than oneself NOT have stepped in and put a stop to this (supposed) sham of a pharmacy and to said little brother's (alleged) playing-at-being-a-physician.

Though it must also be said that part of this is due to Falma's own stupidity and misguided attempt at protecting big-bro's fee-fees. If his achievements and status had been public knowledge, much of this unnecessary drama might not have come to pass.

For an example of sane, rational response, look at the earlier chapters to the father's response during the Queen's illness arc. Similarly incredulous, but without the slapping, attempted murder, emotions flying all over the place, and behavior unbecoming of a scientist, not to mention a physician.

Finally, do not expect me to have much sympathy for a moronic fratricidal maniac whose idea of "training" involves borderline torture and abuse.

 

[residentFATBOY]

I went over it again and I still wouldn't say that's beside the point. Don't forget the brother is not a medical robot but a human being with human emotion. He is also not a doctor with decades of experience but a young man. Honestly I do want to slap the guy for several reasons but him being sceptical of what Falma is claiming is not one. Do remember that the one doing so is a Young Teenager who last the Brother saw him was many things but not a medical prodigy blessed by the Medicine god. A point gmhh also acknowledged.

Also he does drop the attitude quickly once Falma presents evidence once it starts finally sink. As I said before. he drops the "questioning" what he sees and instead "Asks questions" instead.

Honestly looking over it I think we all actually mean the same thing but words are hard

Again, this issue IS NOT him being skeptical. Refer to my previous comment...

Skepticism is good, dismissiveness isn't.

 

[theShear]

Again, this issue IS NOT him being skeptical. Refer to my previous comment...

Ah that I agree with but my point was "I don't blame him for it". If you ten year old brother walks up to you and says "I can cure Cure your sickness that nobody even knew existed before and I know what it is just by listening to you for 5 minutes" what would your reaction be? Can you seriously say you would actually entertain those thoughts? Especially considering Falma and friends did everything in their power to keep his newfound medical prowess a secret? That is what I mean with him being emotional.
Let me also emphase that after some probing and pushing he did listen Falma out and dropped the act quickly once he was presented with the first pieces of evidence that Falma actually knew what he was talking about.

Oh let me also emphase I do think the Brother is an Idiot for many reasons, just not specifically for this single one.
"HEY LET ME TRAIN YOU BY BEATING YOU TO NEAR DEATH WITH DEADLY MAGIC SPELLS!" Like seriously what the fuck?

 

[Goldenzeal]

soo, is bro gonna go bald?

i do not belive so, APL treatment should not cause hair loss as far as i know.
but im not really a doctor so take it with a grain of salt.

 

[tgbob]

Palle is 100% the type of person who boots his kid out of his house for having the wrong blessing and kicks out the support out of his party and possibly even attempting to murder the hero after the death of the demon king.

 

[Fidozip]

Amazing, he has the same Leukemia I had.

 

[theShear]

Amazing, he has the same Leukemia I had.

Since you said "had" I assume you beat it. In that case Congratulations! And fuck Cancer!

 

[YamiRi]

That's wild, he will have to work on chemotherapy and that is quite concerning with the current tools that he have.
His brother probably gonna unalive.

You forgot about magic
With magic, Falma can do fix straight into bone marrow cells and remove the mutated cells without doing surgery

Also I might be wrong but this is not the worst form of leukemia. I think the worst form is when it has become autoimmune disorder which required complete bone marrow transplantation.

 

[Savok]

Ah that I agree with but my point was "I don't blame him for it". If you ten year old brother walks up to you and says "I can cure Cure your sickness that nobody even knew existed before and I know what it is just by listening to you for 5 minutes" what would your reaction be? Can you seriously say you would actually entertain those thoughts? Especially considering Falma and friends did everything in their power to keep his newfound medical prowess a secret? That is what I mean with him being emotional.
Let me also emphase that after some probing and pushing he did listen Falma out and dropped the act quickly once he was presented with the first pieces of evidence that Falma actually knew what he was talking about.

Oh let me also emphase I do think the Brother is an Idiot for many reasons, just not specifically for this single one.
"HEY LET ME TRAIN YOU BY BEATING YOU TO NEAR DEATH WITH DEADLY MAGIC SPELLS!" Like seriously what the fuck?

The moment he found out about the pharmacy WITH the royal endorsement any logical being would be asking why and looking for more information. Instead it was a stream of abuse.

Hiding Falma's accomplishments is so god damn stupid though.

 

[residentFATBOY]

Can you seriously say you would actually entertain those thoughts?

Yes. I genuinely, in good faith, would give due consideration to these claims for a few reasons.

1. Falma's previous mentor, who Palle holds in high regard as a rival, is also entertaining the notion of him being a pharmacist and vouching towards his authenticity.
2. To assume Falma dawns his credentials otherwise is to assume all other authorities around him, including both their father and the empress, are placating to his act.
3. Falma, although a 10 year old, is also capable of countering Palle's god arts and overpowering him. This calls into question how much he's truly grown since Palle last met him and the extent of his abilities as a god arts user. If he's capable of such an explosive growth in one field, why not the other?
4. Refer to the events of chapter 22. Falma has already demonstrated his ability as a pharmacist and a medical prodigy to administer an alternative solution to an ailment previously thought life-threatening, referencing things neither Palle nor his academic compatriots had so much as heard of. He accepted the excuse "it was from a book" then. Why not assume the same circumstances now?

I think that's where the heart of my issue with his character in this situation lies. He's disregarding something that should be core to his teachings and acting unbecoming of "a scion of pharmacists" from the esteemed Novalute Acadamy. He was vehemently denying Famla to an almost comical degree previous to the events of chapter 55.2 without any regard to the science he preaches. At best, it's unbecoming of his character and grossly hypocritical.

 

[Gudachiz]

it just got hella deep

 

[HDMI1]

I read a story once where someone tried that with a relative's cancer, tore out all their insides by accident, just poof and large parts of their internal organs were gone. The guilt sent them spiraling from there.

I like how Black Healer and Tensura handled it. The cancer was technically part of the patient's body, so healing magic just strengthened the tumor instead of healing them, but removing the tumor and then healing them worked fine.

And then there was Spider-God waifu who just used laser magic to cut it free from the organs and a micro blackhole to remove it.

 

[TNT261]

Okay, I literally got to page 5 and had to stop because this dick pimp slapped his brother (with enough force that he got knocked to the ground),WTF? This goes beyond pure scepticism. The brother is just an asshole. He's the one who asked the damn question and then got pissed when he got an answer. Even if he believes this is just his "little brother playing a game" and everyone else indulged him (which is about as unbelievable as reality), then you don't respond to your YOUNGER BROTHER trying to "playfully" offer you a solution and help like that. The worst part is it can't even be played off as the older brother being stressed over the worry of dying (though I'd hardly give him that pass when he's kept this a secret from his family who loves him), because this is exactly as he's always been characterized thus far. Every time he comes all he does is belittle and straight up physically abuse the MC under the pretense of training him. The entire time we as readers have had to deal with watching the MC go through this mess despite knowing that in reality he could wipe the floor with his brother (and knowing that the entire rest of the household knows that and yet indulges the older brother to protect his ego). I feel like the author thought that dynamic was funny but it wasn't. It's been awful watching the older brother act like that and it's frankly made him having a life threatening disease feel cathartic. Moments like this makes it really hard for me to feel sorry for this jerk. For God's sake he's meant to be the oldest of the siblings and an adult whose at least partially struck out on his own. He is OUT of excuses for this type of behavior and has been for a long time.

 

[cash5891]

snip I feel like the author thought that dynamic was funny but it wasn't. It's been awful watching the older brother act like that and it's frankly made him having a life threatening disease feel cathartic. Moments like this makes it really hard for me to feel sorry for this jerk. For God's sake he's meant to be the oldest of the siblings and an adult whose at least partially struck out on his own. He is OUT of excuses for this type of behavior and has been for a long time.

My feelings exactly. Manhuas (rightfully, more often than not) often get flak for the overuse of ubervillains and the "courting death" trope, but manga often suffer from the underuse of (wholly deserved) beatdowns. More recent manhwa authors have seemingly come to their senses and are now avoiding this trope of an indecisive, misplaced-mercy MC, but for some reason it really persists in manga.

Also, in a world with magic and gods, who's to say the jerk's condition isn't a form of divine punishment for his hubris and general stupidity? Especially with how he treats his little brother, the avatar/incarnation/chosen one/whatever of an actual deity in that world? If this is actually the case it might make the story interesting again, but knowing manga authors I'm not holding my breath.

 

[Nunally]

The brother is pretty wild too. He caught on the mechanism of blood cell production and made deductions based on his knowledge that was newly instilled not 15 minutes ago.

Like the microscope, some of Falma knowledge already circulated widely, and he already read some of it (ironically, in past chapter he often brag to Falma about it). Its just he think that the author/inventor is some kind of old man sage 🤣

 

[theShear]

The moment he found out about the pharmacy WITH the royal endorsement any logical being would be asking why and looking for more information. Instead it was a stream of abuse.

Hiding Falma's accomplishments is so god damn stupid though.

First let me say I agree that the Brother's reaction was not a good one but I think it was one that "made sense" when considering a few things
1. It was obvious he was not up to date on many things as he was occupied in the Academy (Probably with the Studies and the whole "dying" thing)
2. He was ... well dying and was sure he had no Time so he tried to use what little time he had to prepare everything so nothing will go wrong once he does. That probably also didn't exactly do wonders to his mental state.

For your point he didn't ask for Information because he already came to a conclusion based on what is "common" normally by his outdated information. A Pharmacy normally only sell the usual stuff, meaning herbs and other things and is for a doctor nothing special. In fact he considered it beneath someone trying to be the medical scion which is why he got angry at Falma for "playing around". That the Pharmacy is more akin to a hospital and sells modern medicine of a kind he never heard of before he only learned "after" he entered as seen once he followed them. Don't forget he is not the first to have that kind of reaction.

There is also another bit. One of the bits that gets repeated often (and Falma also considers before speaking up in his inner monologue) is that "selling hope where there is none" is not what a doctor should ever do. The Stupid Brother already had it all planned out and was already at peace with himself dying and suddenly his little brother, who at that point he has no idea literary rewrote local medical science, suddenly claims he can safe him. Initially in his eyes Falma tried exactly that (and said as much) which is a big source of his anger.

Of note once Falma actually started laying out what he has you can see his behaviour change quickly. From initially dismissing Falma self written book to quickly realizing that not only is it "new" content he is familiar with (Remember Falma had the Academy take credit to help spread the information faster) but even included other stuff. This continued and by the time they took blood he actually was more interested in why a needle instead of a Knife (as is common) from a medical aspect, showing he dropped his earlier attitude.

:EDIT: and I realised I wrote another wall of text. Sorry about that. When I start typing it's hard for me to stop and the boxes get bigger and bigger.