Isekai Yakkyoku - Ch. 55.1 - Palle and the Otherworldly Pharmacy (Part 1)

[Doomroar]

The situation with the brother has nothing to do with the medicine god, that is the second layer and they aren't even to that issue.

Palle is still just in shock/denial that Farma is already a full fledged pharmacist (with his own pharmacy and much, much more that Palle still doesn't know about) and thinks it's some game that his father/Elen are playing with Farma. Couple that with Palle's long established asshole nature (he's been beating up his siblings and calling it "training" since before the series started) and you get this situation where he is just lashing out constantly.

Palle also thinks he's an elite while not even realizing that some of the medicine and technology breakthroughs at his university originate from Farma / the San Fleuve Empire. It is enough to make me wonder if that university he is attending is actively misleading it's students into thinking that these discoveries were made by them rather than by others.

Palle might accept it if he were hearing it from a colleague 'on his level' but he doesn't acknowledge Farma as being that yet.

It has everything to do with him being the medicine god, because that's the one thing that they are keeping hidden

From Palle's POV there's no foundation whatsoever to justify nor explain why his little brother has his own pharmacy and access to technology, knowledge, and raw materials that not even his university posses, while at the same time being financed by the crown

And this is on purpose because Falma insisted on not being credited, he wants to keep a low profile, and just attend his pharmacy

Why would Palle acknowledge Falma? in virtue of what? under which merits? when Falma himself is hiding his achievements and circumstances, and only revealed that he is the owner of the pharmacy because he had to act on the go, but has not explained why he is the owner of a pharmacy nor is there any answer to such question, other than to believe in blind faith that it is well deserved

 

[SageVonManga]

It has everything to do with him being the medicine god, because that's the one thing that they are keeping hidden

From Palle's POV there's no foundation whatsoever to justify nor explain why his little brother has his own pharmacy and access to technology, knowledge, and raw materials that not even his university posses, while at the same time being financed by the crown

And this is on purpose because Falma insisted on not being credited, he wants to keep a low profile, and just attend his pharmacy

Why would Palle acknowledge Falma? in virtue of what? under which merits? when Falma himself is hiding his achievements and circumstances, and only revealed that he is the owner of the pharmacy because he had to act on the go, but has not explained why he is the owner of a pharmacy nor is there any answer to such question, other than to believe in blind faith that it is well deserved

Farma already has the accomplishments, Palle is just refusing to accept them. Why Farma has his own pharmacy isn't nearly as important as acknowledging the fact that he actually does. That's why I say that the medicine god's powers are the second layer and we aren't there yet.

The argument you are making is like saying you first need to understand combustion chemically before you can truly accept that fire is hot. Palle currently doesn't believe that "fire is hot" in the same way he doesn't currently believe Falma is a full-fledged pharmacist.

 

[cash5891]

A lot of this manufactured drama could have been avoided by Falma:

1. Not being so stupidly secretive about his many, MANY accomplishments and powers.
2. Actually using his brain and powers to act on the glaring hints of his brother's ailment.
3. Growing a spine and stop pulling punches during said brother's misguided attempts at fratricide.

A decent curbstomping like how Falma dealt with the church inquisitors in earlier chapters would be much more effective than any talk-no-jutsu at this point.

Too many authors think this kind of mindless artificial drama "spices up the story" when all it really does is annoy/piss off/drive away any reader with half a functioning brain.

 

[finalm]

Farma already has the accomplishments, Palle is just refusing to accept them. Why Farma has his own pharmacy isn't nearly as important as acknowledging the fact that he actually does. That's why I say that the medicine god's powers are the second layer and we aren't there yet.

The argument you are making is like saying you first need to understand combustion chemically before you can truly accept that fire is hot. Palle currently doesn't believe that "fire is hot" in the same way he doesn't currently believe Falma is a full-fledged pharmacist.

No, that reasoning doesn't make sense. His qualifications are being questioned and the fact that he somehow has a pharmacy does little to put those concerns to rest. They are after all, a noble family of the highest rank, with plenty of court favour. Getting their youngest son a place to "play pharmacy", even with royal approval is not inconcievable for a family of such influence. This is exactly what Palle thinks happened.

Your comparison isn't sound either. Anyone can find out for themselves if fire is hot with just a touch, how do you figure Palle should check if Falma actually knows what he's doing? I guess he could make him write an exam... That is, if he wasn't being bull-rushed in the heat of the moment. Anyway, let's suppose he did test Falma and was satisfied that his brother had a high level of knowledge, according to their world's standards. Why would that convince him of anything? He already said he doesn't believe that even his father, the nation's best specialist, knows anything about his illness. Falma may be educated, but who in their right mind would assume he could best a practitioner with a lifetime of experience? To make things worse, he is spouting seemingly made up diseases and methods, all of this after just learning that his brother is dying. The logical thing to assume is that he is in denial, frantically trying to do anything just to escape from grim reality.

 

[SageVonManga]

No, that reasoning doesn't make sense. His qualifications are being questioned and the fact that he somehow has a pharmacy does little to put those concerns to rest. They are after all, a noble family of the highest rank, with plenty of court favour. Getting their youngest son a place to "play pharmacy", even with royal approval is not inconcievable for a family of such influence. This is exactly what Palle thinks happened.

Your comparison isn't sound either. Anyone can find out for themselves if fire is hot with just a touch, how do you figure Palle should check if Falma actually knows what he's doing? I guess he could make him write an exam... That is, if he wasn't being bull-rushed in the heat of the moment. Anyway, let's suppose he did test Falma and was satisfied that his brother had a high level of knowledge, according to their world's standards. Why would that convince him of anything? He already said he doesn't believe that even his father, the nation's best specialist, knows anything about his illness. Falma may be educated, but who in their right mind would assume he could best a practitioner with a lifetime of experience? To make things worse, he is spouting seemingly made up diseases and methods, all of this after just learning that his brother is dying. The logical thing to assume is that he is in denial, frantically trying to do anything just to escape from grim reality.

There is no evidence, whatsoever, that the queen would allow a "play pharmacy" with her endorsement regardless of who asked for it. That is the kind of slander (against Farma, the crown, and even his own father) that should only be in the minds of Farma's jealous competitors, not his brother.

Palle is presented with the fact that Farma is owner of that pharmacy by both Farma himself and Elen. He already knows that pharmacy itself is real, endorsed and successful so whomever operates it clearly seems to know their shit. Palle chooses to not believe Farma or Elen and instead lashes out at the very idea that Farma could be the one running it. He isn't doubting them and requesting proof; he is denying them out of hand. His own experience and arrogance (page 9 he even threatens to become an evil spirt and curse Farma) are getting in the way of whether he can accept a plain non-technical fact.

 

[finalm]

There is no evidence, whatsoever, that the queen would allow a "play pharmacy" with her endorsement regardless of who asked for it. That is the kind of slander (against Farma, the crown, and even his own father) that should only be in the minds of Farma's jealous competitors, not his brother.

Palle is presented with the fact that Farma is owner of that pharmacy by both Farma himself and Elen. He already knows that pharmacy itself is real, endorsed and successful so whomever operates it clearly seems to know their shit. Palle chooses to not believe Farma or Elen and instead lashes out at the very idea that Farma could be the one running it. He isn't doubting them and requesting proof; he is denying them out of hand. His own experience and arrogance (page 9 he even threatens to become an evil spirt and curse Farma) are getting in the way of whether he can accept a plain non-technical fact.

Evidence? Like previous occurences of the same? Maybe not exactly, but surely he knows of at least some examples of the Empress having no choice but to appease her noble subjects with whatever unreasonable favours they want. That is what it means to be a ruler, after all - no matter how righteous you wish to be, you need your key supporters on your side, otherwise you will be replaced. If we wish to treat the world built in this story as a realistic one, then there's no doubt Palle has at least heard of some nepotic politics going on.

Thats just it - he thinks this is Ellen's doing, that's why he chews her out. He knows how strict his father is, and seeing her involved, he probably suspects that she either somehow persuaded him, or went over his head and petitioned the Empress herself, "for the good of her student" of course. Having her pupil be recognized like this is great for her own standing, after all. He clearly thinks that she took advantage of his kid brother's naiveté.

You claim that arrogance is at the heart of this and there's no denying that Palle is haughty, but try to put yourself in his shoes. Your younger brother suddenly has a business that he should in no way be qualified to run (you know, you were involved in his education since he was born), much less taken seriously due to his age. His tutor, a young noblewoman of lesser rank then your family runs it along with him. Being a noble yourself, you know all too well how willing your peers are to scheme in order to improve their standing. With all that, would your first though be "My brother must have suddenly and inexplicably matured and gained the qualifications of a court pharmacist without even going to school. Hey Falma, show me what you can do!"?

Also, while he knows the pharmacy is real in the sense that he has seen the building, he has no idea how it's run or if it's successful. He hasn't yet seen a single customer, after all. He does however know, that it's weirdly organized and stocked. If it were me, I'd assume that this is either due to Falma having no idea what he's doing, or it's Ellen experimenting.

 

[Doomroar]

Farma already has the accomplishments, Palle is just refusing to accept them. Why Farma has his own pharmacy isn't nearly as important as acknowledging the fact that he actually does. That's why I say that the medicine god's powers are the second layer and we aren't there yet.

The argument you are making is like saying you first need to understand combustion chemically before you can truly accept that fire is hot. Palle currently doesn't believe that "fire is hot" in the same way he doesn't currently believe Falma is a full-fledged pharmacist.

There are plenty of ways for him to have a pharmacy without deserving one, specially in that world in which most pharmacies sell quack remedies

That applies to our world too not everyone with a consultation office is a real doctor, however unlike Falma, at least fake doctors in our world try to showcase fake diplomas to add to the ruse

This applies double for Falma's pharmacy because is the only one doing things differently, which has the opposite effect of adding credibility, since he is going against what is considered common sense for their world

Between the two scenarios of his brother becoming a genius in a year worthy of having his own pharmacy, or his dad and tutors indulging him on a make believe play, which ones are more likely to be the case? Specially since everything that backs up Falma earning the right to opening his own pharmacy is being keep hidden?

Hell his brother doesn't even knows that Falma's blessings surpass those of the queen because Falma keeps holding back against him, and everyone else on the know has him out of the loop

So as far as he is concerned that's still just the same brother he has always known

In fact the weird thing here is that most people are not more suspicious of Falma, the knowledge blessing of the medicine God aside, his personality is completely different

 

[SageVonManga]

Evidence? Like previous occurences of the same? Maybe not exactly, but surely he knows of at least some examples of the Empress having no choice but to appease her noble subjects with whatever unreasonable favours they want. That is what it means to be a ruler, after all - no matter how righteous you wish to be, you need your key supporters on your side, otherwise you will be replaced. If we wish to treat the world built in this story as a realistic one, then there's no doubt Palle has at least heard of some nepotic politics going on.

Thats just it - he thinks this is Ellen's doing, that's why he chews her out. He knows how strict his father is, and seeing her involved, he probably suspects that she either somehow persuaded him, or went over his head and petitioned the Empress herself, "for the good of her student" of course. Having her pupil be recognized like this is great for her own standing, after all. He clearly thinks that she took advantage of his kid brother's naiveté.

You claim that arrogance is at the heart of this and there's no denying that Palle is haughty, but try to put yourself in his shoes. Your younger brother suddenly has a business that he should in no way be qualified to run (you know, you were involved in his education since he was born), much less taken seriously due to his age. His tutor, a young noblewoman of lesser rank then your family runs it along with him. Being a noble yourself, you know all too well how willing your peers are to scheme in order to improve their standing. With all that, would your first though be "My brother must have suddenly and inexplicably matured and gained the qualifications of a court pharmacist without even going to school. Hey Falma, show me what you can do!"?

Also, while he knows the pharmacy is real in the sense that he has seen the building, he has no idea how it's run or if it's successful. He hasn't yet seen a single customer, after all. He does however know, that it's weirdly organized and stocked. If it were me, I'd assume that this is either due to Falma having no idea what he's doing, or it's Ellen experimenting.

It is stated by Charlotte in Chapter 1 that Bruno is an archduke with authority above a prince. It is very well known at this point that he is a strict man who would not go along with a 'play pharmacy' that would bring disgrace to the profession. It is safe to say that he absolutely would not tolerate a member of his own family being involved in such a thing. I don't remember what Elen's court rank is but it's almost a certainty that there is no chance of her going behind Bruno's back and pressuring the Queen to let Farma run a 'play pharmacy' with the Queen's endorsement. Bruno would use his superior court rank AND pharmacist rank to overrule and possibly crush Elen for such a stunt regardless of their relation. Palle would know about court intrigue and his father's temperament so at this point you are just projecting Palle's dislike for Elen and trying to give voice to impossibilities.

Palle is definitely arrogant; referring to Chapter 21 he states that Novalute Academy is the pinnacle of the pharmacological world, that he is in the thick of it and that being there fills him with pride. Ironically he then admits that the inventor of the microscope is unknown but bizarrely continues on as is if it (or the insights it provided) is an achievement of Novalute. Also I might have found an interesting plot hole (or bad T/L) in chapter 21 where Palle refers to Farma as a 'proper pharmacist', however many chapters later when confronted with this situation he seems to have downgraded Pharma back to only being an apprentice which indicates his assessment(s) of Pharma not really being objective at all.

It's also worth noting that this is not the first occasion that Farma and Palle squared off about medicine. A prime example was Chapter 22 when Palle was trying to treat Charlotte's hiccups, he shows similar behavior when Farma flatly calls him out on terrorizing her. At that time Farma passes his treatment method off as something that was in one of Bruno's books, but most importantly he personally solidly demonstrated that Palle's knowledge is not absolute. In the current chapter though Palle angrily rejects that Farma (with Elen vouching for him) could know something he does not. The difference of course is that Palle personally put effort into determining his own condition so there is no way that someone else could know something he doesn't.

In Chapter 54 Palle asserts that he hasn't been able to identify his illness, that no doctor could, and even his father could not. However it's impossible for him to realistically assert this since he is keeping it a secret not only from doctors/pharmacists but absolutely from his father. Based on Farma's white lie Palle is already aware that their father knows things which Palle does not and are not in the Novalute text books (this is both true and false since Bruno knew more about white death than was in the text books but may not have known about treatment for hiccups), which means Palle is just making up falsehoods in his own despair. Speaking in practical terms if he had truly sought out his father's counsel, then Bruno would have gotten Farma involved and this whole interaction would have been smoother.

As for the pharmacy; Palle has already investigated it to some extent in previous home-visits, he had just never had the opportunity to visit since it's always closed when Farma had to attend to his brother. Just a mere 2 chapters ago Palle believed that the pharmacy was promising enough that he wanted to visit it because there was a possibility they might have medicine he could use to treat his condition... until it was revealed that Farma was running it at which point Palle flew off the handle. The credibility of the pharmacy itself wasn't really in question before that, but he didn't have high hopes that it knew more than he did.

 

[vairi]

Guys, I think Palle is just in shock/the author needs to create tension

 

[KazuyaKan]

The reason its bad is that if a team is diligently working on it and it gets sniped they will move on to diligently work on another

If the "team" gives up that easily in the first place just because someone else made an attempt, said team was never in it for the long run to begin with.

There's plenty of manga out there that have multiple simultaneous translations trodding along perfectly fine, sometimes with groups unaware of the other translations. There was such a manga that not too long ago many here threw a hissy fit screaming "snipe! snipe!" when they uploaded thier translations cause the readers didnt know the "new" uploading group had already been doing translations on the series for a long time on their own site, they just never posted thier translations to Mangadex before. Hell, there's groups that still translate mangas even with simultaneous translations from official publishers going on.

So there's no excuse for a "team" to stop, other then they were looking for an excuse to stop.

 

[Roumaan]

"I am tired of the drip-feed content model" - posts half chapters.
Bro.

 

[AlphaFlow]

Fuck you, just bc u split chapters. Hate that shit, even if he raws are like that.

 

[darkrai69]

That transition into the fake page was smooth.

 

[KazuyaKan]

"I am tired of the drip-feed content model" - posts half chapters.
Bro.

Fuck you, just bc u split chapters. Hate that shit, even if he raws are like that.

This "half" chapter has 19 pages. The previous chapter had 20 pages. I bet if the poster never numbered this chapter as 55.1, none of you would have been the wiser and never would have whined about it.

 

[vairi]

If the "team" gives up that easily in the first place just because someone else made an attempt, said team was never in it for the long run to begin with.

There's plenty of manga out there that have multiple simultaneous translations trodding along perfectly fine, sometimes with groups unaware of the other translations. There was such a manga that not too long ago many here threw a hissy fit screaming "snipe! snipe!" when they uploaded thier translations cause the readers didnt know the "new" uploading group had already been doing translations on the series for a long time on their own site, they just never posted thier translations to Mangadex before. Hell, there's groups that still translate mangas even with simultaneous translations from official publishers going on.

So there's no excuse for a "team" to stop, other then they were looking for an excuse to stop.

This "half" chapter has 19 pages. The previous chapter had 20 pages. I bet if the poster never numbered this chapter as 55.1, none of you would have been the wiser and never would have whined about it.

I really do hope they continue. I only translated it so that they'd be forced to actually catch up and do the once a month update like they should be doing instead of doing a new release every couple months randomly. Once they catch up and seem like they're not going to drip feed anymore, I'll gladly stop. They're the (seemingly) professionals, anyway.

And I can't believe people dare to hate on the chapter splitting. Like the RAWS are like that. I have to split it by mangadex standards, I'm pretty sure. And even if I didn't, the original translators do the same thing too. AND THE OTHER HALF OF THIS CHAPTER ISN'T EVEN OUT YET! LIKE WHAT AM I SUPPOSED TO DO? Drip-feed like the other translators? Like have they just not read the past chapters? It feels really unfair that people are hating on my translation just because it's not the same people that did the other one, not because they have any actual criticism (although I welcome actual criticism so I can improve).

 

[CountryMage]

There is no evidence, whatsoever, that the queen would allow a "play pharmacy" with her endorsement regardless of who asked for it. That is the kind of slander (against Farma, the crown, and even his own father) that should only be in the minds of Farma's jealous competitors, not his brother.

Palle is presented with the fact that Farma is owner of that pharmacy by both Farma himself and Elen. He already knows that pharmacy itself is real, endorsed and successful so whomever operates it clearly seems to know their shit. Palle chooses to not believe Farma or Elen and instead lashes out at the very idea that Farma could be the one running it. He isn't doubting them and requesting proof; he is denying them out of hand. His own experience and arrogance (page 9 he even threatens to become an evil spirt and curse Farma) are getting in the way of whether he can accept a plain non-technical fact.

The play pharmacy only hands out candies and purified water, they told Palle that when he showed up.

 

[Volttekka]

Oh go fuck yourself, you absolutely are sniping, you're not fooling anyone with your shit work

 

[Shinigamisama]

You have leukem-

 

[SageVonManga]

Oh go fuck yourself, you absolutely are sniping, you're not fooling anyone with your shit work

Ehh... I don't think you can call it shit work with how much unreadable MTL there is on this site.

 

[Roumaan]

I really do hope they continue. I only translated it so that they'd be forced to actually catch up and do the once a month update like they should be doing instead of doing a new release every couple months randomly. Once they catch up and seem like they're not going to drip feed anymore, I'll gladly stop. They're the (seemingly) professionals, anyway.

And I can't believe people dare to hate on the chapter splitting. Like the RAWS are like that. I have to split it by mangadex standards, I'm pretty sure. And even if I didn't, the original translators do the same thing too. AND THE OTHER HALF OF THIS CHAPTER ISN'T EVEN OUT YET! LIKE WHAT AM I SUPPOSED TO DO? Drip-feed like the other translators? Like have they just not read the past chapters? It feels really unfair that people are hating on my translation just because it's not the same people that did the other one, not because they have any actual criticism (although I welcome actual criticism so I can improve).

My thing was that posting often but less is the definition of drip-feeding in my mind, it just seemed a silly thing to say on a half-chapter release, didn't put much thought into that post, not enough to check that it seems to be a weird periodic thing with this manga lol (It's nice when scanlators wait and release all chapter parts together though). I do see now that you consistently use the word to mean the opposite, maybe I had a wrong understanding of the word too, whatever.
Moving on, I don't see a point in being angry with you. I do think jumping in late in the series with clearly slightly less-developed skills without having a version of your own for all of the chapters is kinda cringe, but while I can't tell you what to do I can just ignore your releases on this series in the future. Will check out the other series you properly started though.