Kaette Kudasai! Akutsu-san - Ch. 181

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Why are you reading a Japanese manga when you hate this 'trope' that is a deeply ingrained part of Japanese culture? You guys should really go read different comics that better fit your narrow minded view of how the world works.
ah yes not liking one over used trope thats used means i am narrow minded. Are you retarded or just the real stephen king?
 
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ah yes not liking one over used trope thats used means i am narrow minded. Are you retarded or just the real stephen king?
Keeps calling common Japanese culture a trope even after being informed and unironically using the R-word. You're just as narrow-minded as I expected.
 
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I think you have to be raised Japanese to really get the full feeling of this chapter. As a westerner, I know enough about Japanese culture to "get it" that it's a big deal to use the first name over there, but other than my teachers in school and a few parents when I was a kid, I haven't called many people by their last names in my whole life. I even refer to the owner of the company I work at by his first name.
 
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I think you have to be raised Japanese to really get the full feeling of this chapter. As a westerner, I know enough about Japanese culture to "get it" that it's a big deal to use the first name over there, but other than my teachers in school and a few parents when I was a kid, I haven't called many people by their last names in my whole life. I even refer to the owner of the company I work at by his first name.
Yeah, that's what I think is the hardest thing for westerners, especially Americans, to "get" about this situation. Look at the guy calling Japanese keigo (honorific language) systems a "trope" and an overused one at that.

We really don't have an equivalent in western or US culture. There used to be things that we could use an example, like a girl wearing a piece of a guy's clothing (the infamous letterman jacket thing) or being the only one to get a girl's phone number... or later on getting comfortable enough with the (future) in laws to call them by first name (or they start calling you by your first name).

But most of these things are long gone from the general culture. The best thing to do with this chapter is to realize that these two are now able to call each other by their first names but they've been far too doofus and shy to do it! X-D
 
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I will never understand this trope. A name is a name, why be so embarrassed by it?
In Japanese culture only the people closest to you will call you by your given name and it is generally in more private settings. Generally you call people by their family name; usually with a honorific. The pattern goes something like this- 1: acquaintance, on the job, or borderline stranger: family name + honorific 2: friends and good friends: family name 3: family and closest friends when in private: first name. Basically, if they call each other by their first names, it's a signal to the people around them that these 2 are in a relatively serious relationship; hence their embarrassment.
 
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I think you have to be raised Japanese to really get the full feeling of this chapter. As a westerner, I know enough about Japanese culture to "get it" that it's a big deal to use the first name over there, but other than my teachers in school and a few parents when I was a kid, I haven't called many people by their last names in my whole life. I even refer to the owner of the company I work at by his first name.
I'd be a lot more uncomfortable calling someone by a bare last name (with no title, I mean) than using their first name. To me that seems disrespectful or to be asserting dominance. It's like something an angry drill sergeant or foreman would do.
 
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I'd be a lot more uncomfortable calling someone by a bare last name (with no title, I mean) than using their first name. To me that seems disrespectful or to be asserting dominance. It's like something an angry drill sergeant or foreman would do.
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I will never understand this trope. A name is a name, why be so embarrassed by it?
In Japan, calling someone by their first name is something reserved for thoseincredibly close to them (basically family or dating), especially so for calling someone without honorifics (like they did here). It seems weird to us in the West, but that's just what the culture around first names is in Japan.
 

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