Keikenzumi na Kimi to, Keiken Zero na Ore ga, Otsukiai Suru Hanashi

[Angelonius]

Wow homies straight up mad about how people wont let them call a girl who's been emotionally manipulated a wh*** and "used goods".

Gah damn all I wanted was to know if it was a clone of Hajimete no Gal, now does someone have that info for me?

I'd say that this is a Meguro-chan clone given the people who mercilessly defend this manga and how they defend this manga.

 

[RiffRaffROTFL]

The talk about wanting virgins in the comments is pretty interesting. There's so much anger laced in there.

 

[RazorsEdge]

wtf is this comment section

i just came here to check if someone already said how far the manga is from the animr

 

[Angelonius]

Fucking shit worst mc gal girl have a tumor in her head, also have plenty body count in the age of 16?!?!?!?!

She's reminding me of Meguro due to how these 2 manga have similar premises.

Spoiler

It's just that Meguro is more serious in terms of premises and back story because her first time was with her teacher and she's underage. The fact that she's not getting much in terms of help but plenty of dick instead makes it even more of a problem for her! The girl in this manga is more like Meguro but this manga's FMC hasn't had sex with a teacher (that we know of).

 

[HoangDinh]

Kinda similar to Meguro-san wa Hajimete ja Nai

 

[HoangDinh]

people who judge FMC said she slut because she is a non-virgin are stupid. Teenagers are impulsive because of the hormone changes and do make mistakes. But that's what it meant to be a human. the wrong here is a parent.

I agree with this

Plus, you all love hot Milf yet can accept non-virgin teenagers. what a joke. Did you ever realize that all MIlf is used goods? they even give birth already but you love them anyway.

But this? No, a milf is also used good but what differs is their mental capacity and experience to make decisions. One is a grown woman and one is a fucking girl who's still figuring out adulthood. And even the latter has their separation, the FMC in here and Meguro did it through being manipulated and have no problems with it even after being explained. Meanwhile the girl in I Like The You Who Can Have Sex With Anyone did it out of her own volition and understand every implications that goes with her actions. I'd say she's smarter and has a healthier mindset/mental than this FMC and Meguro combined even though she's just a slut.

 

[fanoracle]

Svp les éditeurs français refaite vos chapitre en modifiant la police et la taille de l'écriture car ce n'est pas très beau a lire

 

[condottiere77]

Within the confines of the characters as written, I guess I can see the MMC as a fallible dude who wants to be the good guy. FMC as misunderstood good gal with her own human struggles, also okay. The Olympic-level mental gymnastics required to shoehorn the series' central conceit really strains my much-abused suspension of disbelief though.

The author's writing and character concepts are what you get after spending too much time reading within one narrow genre, and neglecting to diversify both your RL experiences and reading quality writing in multiple genres. Way too narrow and derivative. Second-rate characters tend to talk too much about "the relationship" in a vacuum or whatever surface activity they're doing together, because the author doesn't know how to write more extensive interactions and reactions to the environment around the characters.

Good writing requires an author to be willing to kill their darlings sometimes. Not literally, but don't coddle the characters. Let them experience real challenges and changes organically, instead of contriving neatly resolved cookie-cutter "problems" every time. This criticism applies to a lot of manga/LNs in every genre, not just this particular manga.

After several decades walking this earth, I pride myself on having occasionally escaped the darkness of my parents' basement -- and even on occasion talked to a woman. (/sarcasm) It really doesn't take much exposure to get some sense for how people talk, think, and are motivated to do what they do right or wrong. A few weeks to months of building a relationship of any sort can provide more insight and depth into characters than what's written in series like this one.

Some authors really manage to capture elements of verisimilitude in their characters' dialogue and choices. Romcom, isekai, drama, gritty war-is-hell -- every genre has good examples. And taking the last one as a specific and extreme example, at this far remove from devastating wars involving Japan, it's clear that some writers are able to grasp the human condition through others' accounts without having to experience some kinds of trauma firsthand. If an author today can write something like 86, then there's no excuse for far more authors to be unable to write better romcoms using far more accessible daily human experiences.

I do appreciate that the author innately wants to write the MCs as nice people, as opposed to the uncomfortable, edgy revenge pr0n in some series. I wish them luck on their next project and another few years' experience in RL and in reading stuff outside this genre though.

 

[virginhunter]

Be warn chads, the female lead is used-good . Also, the amount of white knights reading this is abundant. Choose your battle wisely.

 

[AssillaTheBuns]

Be warn chads, the female lead is used-good . Also, the amount of white knights reading this is abundant. Choose your battle wisely.

I can smell you through the screen.

 

[virginhunter]

I can smell you through the screen.

Damn, this brother down bad. I just farted, did you get a good whiff of that too?

 

[AssillaTheBuns]

Damn, this brother down bad. I just farted, did you get a good whiff of that too?

There's people out there thanking god that they're not you. Utterly useless, unloved, and repulsive. Almost feel bad for you.

 

[virginhunter]

There's people out there thanking god that they're not you. Utterly useless, unloved, and repulsive. Almost feel bad for you.

Damn son, what I do to get you so pressed . They don't got what it takes to be me and by the looks of it, neither do you .

 

[AssillaTheBuns]

Damn son, what I do to get you so pressed . They don't got what it takes to be me and by the looks of it, neither do you .

You exist, you redpilled piece of trash. The fact that I have to breathe the same air as you makes my skin crawl.

 

[virginhunter]

You exist, you redpilled piece of trash. The fact that I have to breathe the same air as you makes my skin crawl.

Funny little guy. Deep breaths now. You have the privilege of sharing the same air with an exalted individual like myself, be grateful.

 

[GeneralKauz]

A obra é bem legal em si! Mas não acho que a FMC vale a pena em si, a garota precisa é de um psicólogo e um psiquiatra não um namorado pra ajudar ela.

 

[G-P]

I got enough entertainment reading all your nerds comments, I don't think I can get more out of actually reading the comic.

 

[JTMad]

Makes sense. One shouldn't be concerned about virginity when it comes to love. That being said I am a virgin that doesn't care weather the person I do it first is a virgin or not.

Joking aside, "used goods" Is less todo with virginity, but more with how one lives life.
Someone who just has sex for "the fun of it", make poor life partners and have baggage they will make you bear.
Mind you, I never said only women can be "used goods".

 

[voidddddddddddd]

typical japanese beta cuck writing. why are these mfs like this? either make mc and fmc both virgin or make them both experienced. fuck this slut trope.

 

[Iamcheater]

typical japanese beta cuck writing. why are these mfs like this? either make mc and fmc both virgin or make them both experienced. fuck this slut trope.

I don't think this manga is selling super well in Japan. Hopefully it will soon get the axe.