Kouchuugun Shikan Boukensha ni Naru - Ch. 44 - Pioneers

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I think it may count territory surrounding the capital, maybe not the capital city on its own.
Maybe some bandits were puppets of the nobles too.


There are three things I want to point out.
1) It is indeed true he has enough strength to take the crown by force, but taking it is easy on itself. Keeping it is more difficult.
2) Manpower is not his, it's basically his to-be-wife/queen.
If she thinks he's not worthy (by shedding too much blood or ruling with tyrranny) she may just retreat her support and peolle and he will be left alone with the twins a few drones and entire kingdom that hates him.
3) It is true they are capable of "printing" anything. I mean they are literally rebuilding a battleship? So they have technology for that. But the difference between copying a pieces of metal with the same composition versus building a complex machines such as drones that require also processors and other parts for them will take incredibly much longer. I mean he says they are currently building drones.. 5 of them I think? As soon as they are ready he orders them to be deployed. That means it's not an easy feat to build an army of robots. Surely not something to be done within 5 minutes. At least if all you have is a general use "printing machine", instead of some highly efficient hardware, specialized into making robots. Ofc I can be wrong on that one, but that would be weird for me if he could build an army of robots instantly then why bother recruiting people? Make bots fight the bugs. He already is in state of emergency anyway.

If he could just print a hundred robots within 5 minutes, then that's "isekai with smartphone" kind of stupid. A guy pulls out a magical smartphone, turns on maps where he has all enemies marked on red. Then he just selects them all and do whatever. Even Ainz/Momonga from Overlord wouldn't be able to fight that, and the guy literally killed over 100 thousand people with single spell. Oh and yes, it'd turn into another Overlord soon.

A tyrant ruling with skeletons/drones, masacring those who defy him. Too much of a copypaste.
Fair point so far i guess, but is quite dissapointing to be honest, Alan has been keeping his technology in the shadows, while all what i came to see was a isekai with technology employed in a medieval magic world, Gate has managed to pull out this "being overpowered as hell" and still deliver a good story without getting boring, and in this Manga case, they even have a failsafe due to the Aliens which implies an equal technological superior foe to deal with.

Not only that but they could also employ clever usage of magic to fight Alan or even some sort of magnetic magic field that acts as an EMP or something to balance things, yet all what we have been having was Alan and the twins integrating magic into themselves via nanites, which can also be interpreted as an Isekai protagonist which can learn any magic as if it is nothing, just as you mentioned about the Smartphone manga/anime.

If i see a Manga with a so called "navy officer" and the first chapter shows the guy with a PULSE RIFLE, i expect him to use it, same for all the tech he does have, its just common sense, if a tool or something else is showed, it is implied it will be used in the story in one way or another, if not they shoudn't show it in the first place.
 
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Fair point so far i guess, but is quite dissapointing to be honest, Alan has been keeping his technology in the shadows, while all what i came to see was a isekai with technology employed in a medieval magic world, Gate has managed to pull out this "being overpowered as hell" and still deliver a good story without getting boring, and in this Manga case, they even have a failsafe due to the Aliens which implies an equal technological superior foe to deal with.

Not only that but they could also employ clever usage of magic to fight Alan or even some sort of magnetic magic field that acts as an EMP or something to balance things, yet all what we have been having was Alan and the twins integrating magic into themselves via nanites, which can also be interpreted as an Isekai protagonist which can learn any magic as if it is nothing, just as you mentioned about the Smartphone manga/anime.

If i see a Manga with a so called "navy officer" and the first chapter shows the guy with a PULSE RIFLE, i expect him to use it, same for all the tech he does have, its just common sense, if a tool or something else is showed, it is implied it will be used in the story in one way or another, if not they shoudn't show it in the first place.
Watching Gate the first thing I saw was also orcs and medieval knights in Tokyo and I also wanted to see more of it.

But I guess it doesn't always show what's on the first chapter ¯⁠\⁠⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠⁠/⁠¯

Gate and this is entirely different situations. Despite Japan in Gate being less advanced technologically than Alan, they have access to the industrial power of Japan and their "allies".

Alan on the other hand is alone.
Yes his ship is in orbit, but it's a wreck barely staying in orbit.
It may have stabilised its orbit but can it stay on a geostationary orbit to support him with enough firepower 24/7 within under few minutes?
That is questionable.

It's also not that capable as an industrial base since all it can make as a "side job" is to create 5 drones. 5 drones? Nice. Not sure how long it's gonna take but, trying to take over entire planet, it doesn't seem to be fast enough. Not to mention shipping costs/time from orbit to surface. Definitely higher than travelling through the gate.

In Gate Japan fights against the Kindom.
Here Alan and the twins tries to take on the world.
They are powerful individuals, but individuals nonetheless.

The story of Gate is basically story of Japan vs the "Empire".
This is the story of Alan (and his friends).
Of course it's gonna be different.

Also they haven't yet begun fighting him. What did he fight so far? Bandits? A dragon?
He cannot come into this land and just start blasting like they did in Gate. He has one life, one chance. In Gate they are basically alive until they run out of manpower (Japan's manpower).

Even him having to rely on magic is justified because he experiments with it. He has no idea how to use it and he cannot ignore it as it may prove better at fighting maybe even the bugs or whatever they're fighting in space. What's better chance to learn how to use it than in practice?

It's true that nanite basically let him learn any magic, but will it work for everything?
We saw the twins struggling to learn healing magic as it required better imagination I think? Clearer picture? They finally learned but true, if magic will become answer to evrything then it'll get boring soon.

Byt we have one instance of "another being" on this planet.
Some sort of god-like existence?
Maybe it's the key to solving what's magic and who can use it.
Imagine that being cutting off Alan's magic because he broke ToS :kek:
 
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Watching Gate the first thing I saw was also orcs and medieval knights in Tokyo and I also wanted to see more of it.

But I guess it doesn't always show what's on the first chapter ¯⁠\⁠⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠⁠/⁠¯

Gate and this is entirely different situations. Despite Japan in Gate being less advanced technologically than Alan, they have access to the industrial power of Japan and their "allies".

Alan on the other hand is alone.
Yes his ship is in orbit, but it's a wreck barely staying in orbit.
It may have stabilised its orbit but can it stay on a geostationary orbit to support him with enough firepower 24/7 within under few minutes?
That is questionable.

It's also not that capable as an industrial base since all it can make as a "side job" is to create 5 drones. 5 drones? Nice. Not sure how long it's gonna take but, trying to take over entire planet, it doesn't seem to be fast enough. Not to mention shipping costs/time from orbit to surface. Definitely higher than travelling through the gate.

In Gate Japan fights against the Kindom.
Here Alan and the twins tries to take on the world.
They are powerful individuals, but individuals nonetheless.

The story of Gate is basically story of Japan vs the "Empire".
This is the story of Alan (and his friends).
Of course it's gonna be different.

Also they haven't yet begun fighting him. What did he fight so far? Bandits? A dragon?
He cannot come into this land and just start blasting like they did in Gate. He has one life, one chance. In Gate they are basically alive until they run out of manpower (Japan's manpower).

Even him having to rely on magic is justified because he experiments with it. He has no idea how to use it and he cannot ignore it as it may prove better at fighting maybe even the bugs or whatever they're fighting in space. What's better chance to learn how to use it than in practice?

It's true that nanite basically let him learn any magic, but will it work for everything?
We saw the twins struggling to learn healing magic as it required better imagination I think? Clearer picture? They finally learned but true, if magic will become answer to evrything then it'll get boring soon.

Byt we have one instance of "another being" on this planet.
Some sort of god-like existence?
Maybe it's the key to solving what's magic and who can use it.
Imagine that being cutting off Alan's magic because he broke ToS :kek:
Actually that would be amazii
ng and funny, Nanom disabling his powers at some point due to him breaking the ToS.

"Unfortunately your Nanites service has been temporarily disabled due to multiple violations of the Nanites ToS clause of breaking the Imperial Law on purpose, if you think this is a mistake, please contact your nearest Imperial Nanites Redistribution Center.The following vital functions will remain enabled: repairing tissue due to life-threatning wounds and emergency calls to authorized emergency numbers will remain enabled as per Imperial Emergency Protocols."

And then Iris attempts to hack its DRM and locks it permanently and even the emergency protocols gets disabled, due to a proprietary attempt of hacking Military Nanites, they start attacking its host, leading Alan to conjure an EMP magic to kill them.

Also you have a fair point, numbers matter, however if 5 whole drones can be built, it implies that they do have the technology capacity of building stuff in large scale, think of the complexity of a drone and its parts after all, as such a single drone, some more clones or Androids and that is it, they could instead of using the materials to print more 4 drones to print those fancy 3D printer more like advanced automated CNC machines parts and move them to the Planet, power could be supplied by Solar Energy, or thermal reactors and a lot of coal i don't think that air pollution would matter now,and perhaps some filters could be used to minimize the air pollution impacts.

About the numbers issue, there is always the sollution used by the USA to end the War against Imperial Japan, and it was needed only one plane to do it, and it woudn't even be needed a nuclear payload, a MOAB would be enough, just turning the whole Kingdom Palace and perhaps city into a crater.

Also iirc, in the Novel is said that Iris detached the broken sections of the Ship and repaired what was essential and managed to keep it afloat, so while it is broken it still partially usable, and who knows, perhaps some sort of Kinectic bombardement would be an option ? A single missile would be all what is needed, as long as terminal velocity is broken through thrusters, the problem is solved with enough missiles.

And if unethical path is the way, he could simply use such tactics to take the Kingdom by force or enslave the population to work for him, i bet that if he can print 5 Drones he can also print enough Bomb Collars like in fallout, or enslave and indoctrinate them while at it too.

When the Imperial Army shows up at his doorstep he can claim "I did it for the greater good! To protect this planet from the Bugs, so the population can be free!" Imperials soldiers look around and see children in ragged clothes shoveling coal into furnaces without any PPE.
 
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Actually that would be amazii
ng and funny, Nanom disabling his powers at some point due to him breaking the ToS.

"Unfortunately your Nanites service has been temporarily disabled due to multiple violations of the Nanites ToS clause of breaking the Imperial Law on purpose, if you think this is a mistake, please contact your nearest Imperial Nanites Redistribution Center.The following vital functions will remain enabled: repairing tissue due to life-threatning wounds and emergency calls to authorized emergency numbers will remain enabled as per Imperial Emergency Protocols."

And then Iris attempts to hack its DRM and locks it permanently and even the emergency protocols gets disabled, due to a proprietary attempt of hacking Military Nanites, they start attacking its host, leading Alan to conjure an EMP magic to kill them.

Also you have a fair point, numbers matter, however if 5 whole drones can be built, it implies that they do have the technology capacity of building stuff in large scale, think of the complexity of a drone and its parts after all, as such a single drone, some more clones or Androids and that is it, they could instead of using the materials to print more 4 drones to print those fancy 3D printer more like advanced automated CNC machines parts and move them to the Planet, power could be supplied by Solar Energy, or thermal reactors and a lot of coal i don't think that air pollution would matter now,and perhaps some filters could be used to minimize the air pollution impacts.

About the numbers issue, there is always the sollution used by the USA to end the War against Imperial Japan, and it was needed only one plane to do it, and it woudn't even be needed a nuclear payload, a MOAB would be enough, just turning the whole Kingdom Palace and perhaps city into a crater.

Also iirc, in the Novel is said that Iris detached the broken sections of the Ship and repaired what was essential and managed to keep it afloat, so while it is broken it still partially usable, and who knows, perhaps some sort of Kinectic bombardement would be an option ? A single missile would be all what is needed, as long as terminal velocity is broken through thrusters, the problem is solved with enough missiles.

And if unethical path is the way, he could simply use such tactics to take the Kingdom by force or enslave the population to work for him, i bet that if he can print 5 Drones he can also print enough Bomb Collars like in fallout, or enslave and indoctrinate them while at it too.

When the Imperial Army shows up at his doorstep he can claim "I did it for the greater good! To protect this planet from the Bugs, so the population can be free!" Imperials soldiers look around and see children in ragged clothes shoveling coal into furnaces without any PPE.
I meant not nanites turning off magic, but the hypothethical source of the magic on the planet. Aka that hallucination which he once saw.

Also you misunderstand the true issue with numbers.
Winning a war is easy, but keeping the gains is harder.
Winning over kingdom will and is easy. It never was hard even if he had no magic or other people, as long as he had a chance of a ship in orbit surviving.
But what of it if suddenly some servant or a peasant tries to assasinate him and succeeds? Poison doesn't work, but perhaps a direct assasination would work. Like stabbing him multiple times while he bathes or works on making a heir.

It's all over if he dies.

Using a MOAB may also turn his to-be-queen against him. Currently she is with him because it's advantageous to her, but if she sees that getting her kingdom back means spilling unnecessary blood everywhere, well, at which point she will think it's too much, I wonder. Maybe even she herself will get rid of him if he becomes some sort of "Demon Lord".

Also building 5 drones at once is nothing fancy. It's more profitable to build large quantities at once, always was.
The fact that they build ONLY 5 at once is just sad reality of their inabilities to produce more.
True they should as fast as possible begin construction of more, let's call it, fabricators on the surface. But that risks leaking the technology to the primitives, and makes it even more important than ever that nobody realizes his true power of superiority in technology.

Also the ship parts not only were detached, but also dropped onto the surface in such a way they either break down, or become unaccessible to anyone. Otherwise they wouldn't be able to keep the ship on orbit.
Which means anything useless got thrown outside the window.
Ship weapons are first in the queue I believe. They are probably the heaviest and most useless to keep ship afloat.
Which means he can only drop a meteorite or another part of a ship on top of some city.
Which will cause a strong hatred towards him and turn him into a tyrant. It's better to be a saviour instead, you don't have to worry that much about keeping your head on your neck.

True, he could become a bunker tyrant, but where's the "Navy officer becomes adventurer" part in it?
 
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Apparently there's a bigger threat than a simple baron trying to usurp the throne. Or the king really is just being silly and young :dogkek:
The king is perfectly aware of the prime minister's shenanigans..
He's just powerless to do someting about them outright until that prome minister makes a crucial mistake..
(this was pretty much made clear in a previous episode..)

Which a second failed assassination attempt on a Lord Protector with the King's Favour will most likely prove to be.

Dealing with nobles and their factions is tricky.. It's all too easy your head that's rolling..
But if there's actual proof of what amounts to treason... weeeellllll......
 
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I meant not nanites turning off magic, but the hypothethical source of the magic on the planet. Aka that hallucination which he once saw.

Also you misunderstand the true issue with numbers.
Winning a war is easy, but keeping the gains is harder.
Winning over kingdom will and is easy. It never was hard even if he had no magic or other people, as long as he had a chance of a ship in orbit surviving.
But what of it if suddenly some servant or a peasant tries to assasinate him and succeeds? Poison doesn't work, but perhaps a direct assasination would work. Like stabbing him multiple times while he bathes or works on making a heir.

It's all over if he dies.

Using a MOAB may also turn his to-be-queen against him. Currently she is with him because it's advantageous to her, but if she sees that getting her kingdom back means spilling unnecessary blood everywhere, well, at which point she will think it's too much, I wonder. Maybe even she herself will get rid of him if he becomes some sort of "Demon Lord".

Also building 5 drones at once is nothing fancy. It's more profitable to build large quantities at once, always was.
The fact that they build ONLY 5 at once is just sad reality of their inabilities to produce more.
True they should as fast as possible begin construction of more, let's call it, fabricators on the surface. But that risks leaking the technology to the primitives, and makes it even more important than ever that nobody realizes his true power of superiority in technology.

Also the ship parts not only were detached, but also dropped onto the surface in such a way they either break down, or become unaccessible to anyone. Otherwise they wouldn't be able to keep the ship on orbit.
Which means anything useless got thrown outside the window.
Ship weapons are first in the queue I believe. They are probably the heaviest and most useless to keep ship afloat.
Which means he can only drop a meteorite or another part of a ship on top of some city.
Which will cause a strong hatred towards him and turn him into a tyrant. It's better to be a saviour instead, you don't have to worry that much about keeping your head on your neck.

True, he could become a bunker tyrant, but where's the "Navy officer becomes adventurer" part in it?
Welp, that is why i said about the Bomb Collars like in Fallout, have Iris managing their location, microphones and speech-to-text with keywords that would trigger her system, and for assasinations ? Alan could literally surround himself with bodyguards or put motion sensors,infrared cameras, and even a whole minefield around him at any given time in any location, or even better, a single drone, as long as Alan have an IFF tag, the drone could use his radar to see inside his building, any unauthorized person gets shot, bullets can go through stuff after all, including buildings if the caliber is high enough.

About reverse engineering of his tech however it seems like a valid concern.. at first, however the more i think about it, the more i think that the locals woudn't be able to do it, complex eletronics need microchips, processors, capacitors, NAND's,etc even if they were to sucessfully replicate such advanced stuff, or steal it, for the device to operate i bet that a password is needed, one that cannot be brute-forced, and they would lack the knowledge and tools to hack it, and even if they did had them, i bet that the criptography on the Imperial military fabricators would be top of the line.

Any technology that Alan have may be useless on the locals hands, lets say someone take his pulse rifle, i bet that it has some sort of biometric lock or a wireless activation code, one may argue that "what if they disable the eletronics and use it in an analogic manner" a good choice perhaps but i bet failsafes for it would exist like a self-destruct module if tampered with, its military equipment after all.

Oh, and last one, brainwashing techniques may end up being the best bet, like a reprogramation pod or nanites to do it, toss the people into one of those VR training pods and let the pod do the rest of the job and indoctrinate any of his 'allies' to serve the Empire, and for turning cities into a crater ? No big deal, simply do a false flag operation and claim to be attacked brutally by them, after that you have all the justification that you may need to retaliate, if someone dares ro question, show images of the false flag operation and claim that those savages dared to do kill innocents in such a brutal manner, so they are not worth of any mercy. Or even better, do a false flag operation, collect the false evidences, spread them among his people and wait until themselves to claim for retaliation, so all that he needs to do is 'accept his people request'
 
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Welp, that is why i said about the Bomb Collars like in Fallout, have Iris managing their location, microphones and speech-to-text with keywords that would trigger her system, and for assasinations ? Alan could literally surround himself with bodyguards or put motion sensors,infrared cameras, and even a whole minefield around him at any given time in any location, or even better, a single drone, as long as Alan have an IFF tag, the drone could use his radar to see inside his building, any unauthorized person gets shot, bullets can go through stuff after all, including buildings if the caliber is high enough.

Yes, that will become "A navy officer becomes a bunker tyrant" instead of "becomes an adventurer". It suddenly is a different manga and even a genre. Instead of lighthearted isekai we switch into darker side of dystopian isekai. That's maybe your projection of what you like, which I don't like and I would drop instantly. It's boring imo.

the locals woudn't be able to do i

Ofc they won't. If he went to war against them, he will long time ago be victorious by the time they figure out a pulse rifle uses a thing called ammunition.
He said himself it has a biometric lock, but them witnessing machines do the work is enough to have a change in thinking. If a one man has this much power because of a machines, how much it will help others. That will spark a process for technological progress, the world will instantly switch into renaissance, which means first muskets and cannons. Also as that will not be enough, it will spark further and further advancements.

Except his goal is not just advancing the locals. His goal is to unite the locals. You can unite them as slaves true, but that sort of unity is weak and makes you a common/public enemy number one.
After you die, everyone goes their ways, split apart and because they are taught only opressing the others without any teacher to teach them further technological advancements, they will most likely stagnate at some point and become unable to stand against the bugs.

Uniting them against a common enemy hovewer, weeell... That's entirely a different thing.
"My dear citizens, we finally did it! We now stand united in fight for our future! We must progress and join my brethren in space (points toward the sky) in their fight against the bugs! Work hard, educate yourself and become scientist to join us in space!
Does that mean we work will work to fight alongside gods in their heavenly fight against the demons?
Eehh... Su—re? Yeah?
Hurray!!! Long live Lord Protector (etc.)

It will create pretty much a religion, if done well will blend with the current one and will be the strongest brainwashing possible even without nanites.
Suddenly you're being elevated to a heavensent. Not an angel or god, just a messenger on a mission. And the best of all, you don't have to be a bunker tyrant whose creation (united world) is unlikely to survive longer than 200-300 years.

And this is how the story is heading to I think.
You don't have to rush conquering more territories, as it will only create more problems and putting them on later date will only create more unrest and make it feel more dystopian.
I'd actually fear more breaking ToS with nanites for brainwashing population than if I have enough drones to protect myself.

Try playing Crusader Kings III or Europa Universalis 4 and see how it's fun supressing the rebels all over the world.
True, supressing rebels can be done automatically with drones in his case, but as I said before: if all his problems could be solved with drones, he would be able to avoid advancing them and just protect them from the shadows using drones and maybe a few elite people.
If drones will have to monitor the situation however to see nobody rebels, and rebels will remain a major concern thorough your entire rule, there's not enough time for progress since instead of planning growth, you plan how to keep your head on your neck.

Ending this, Yes Iris could plan for everything and Alan could be only a decoration stamping everything a OK but even Iris herself noticed his actions are speeding things up.
Maybe Iris thought up a scenario possible to what you described, but is now realizing Alan takes another route which seems to be going faster according to her own calculations.
 
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Yes, that will become "A navy officer becomes a bunker tyrant" instead of "becomes an adventurer". It suddenly is a different manga and even a genre. Instead of lighthearted isekai we switch into darker side of dystopian isekai. That's maybe your projection of what you like, which I don't like and I would drop instantly. It's boring imo.



Ofc they won't. If he went to war against them, he will long time ago be victorious by the time they figure out a pulse rifle uses a thing called ammunition.
He said himself it has a biometric lock, but them witnessing machines do the work is enough to have a change in thinking. If a one man has this much power because of a machines, how much it will help others. That will spark a process for technological progress, the world will instantly switch into renaissance, which means first muskets and cannons. Also as that will not be enough, it will spark further and further advancements.

Except his goal is not just advancing the locals. His goal is to unite the locals. You can unite them as slaves true, but that sort of unity is weak and makes you a common/public enemy number one.
After you die, everyone goes their ways, split apart and because they are taught only opressing the others without any teacher to teach them further technological advancements, they will most likely stagnate at some point and become unable to stand against the bugs.

Uniting them against a common enemy hovewer, weeell... That's entirely a different thing.


It will create pretty much a religion, if done well will blend with the current one and will be the strongest brainwashing possible even without nanites.
Suddenly you're being elevated to a heavensent. Not an angel or god, just a messenger on a mission. And the best of all, you don't have to be a bunker tyrant whose creation (united world) is unlikely to survive longer than 200-300 years.

And this is how the story is heading to I think.
You don't have to rush conquering more territories, as it will only create more problems and putting them on later date will only create more unrest and make it feel more dystopian.
I'd actually fear more breaking ToS with nanites for brainwashing population than if I have enough drones to protect myself.

Try playing Crusader Kings III or Europa Universalis 4 and see how it's fun supressing the rebels all over the world.
True, supressing rebels can be done automatically with drones in his case, but as I said before: if all his problems could be solved with drones, he would be able to avoid advancing them and just protect them from the shadows using drones and maybe a few elite people.
If drones will have to monitor the situation however to see nobody rebels, and rebels will remain a major concern thorough your entire rule, there's not enough time for progress since instead of planning growth, you plan how to keep your head on your neck.

Ending this, Yes Iris could plan for everything and Alan could be only a decoration stamping everything a OK but even Iris herself noticed his actions are speeding things up.
Maybe Iris thought up a scenario possible to what you described, but is now realizing Alan takes another route which seems to be going faster according to her own calculations.
Fair point, a common enemy is really a good way for him to unify them, which i'm sure that he is planning to do, the children that he recruited for example, i bet that they will go through Imperial indoctrination while receiving proper education, brainwashing techniques may be his way, even the path that he took so far looks like it, "The living legend who has killed a Dragon by himself" when the truth is that a Drone did it and even his magic doesn't truly belong to himself, the image of a "Hero" to attract people to folliw him as if he were some sort of "Chosen One".


I think he will do something like "Nazi Germany" education or Starship Troopers, a ton of propaganda, starting with the young ones when making schools, making TV's, radios or other form of media for an affordable price but those would constantly transmit propaganda, high rewards for those who join the Imperial Army, Goverment loans and assistance programs to grant the people affordable houses, tax discounts, health care for them and their family, etc.

Perhaps even something like Starship Troopers done for basic rights, if you never enlisted in the fleet, you are labeled as a "Civilian" and are granted barely any rights, however if you have gone through the fleet and enlisted, you are granted and receive full rights as a "Citizen".

Its ironic how brainwashing and indoctrination is commonly not noticed in media however, took me a long time to understand the Starship Troopers movies real meaning, yet i loved the movies, the Starship Troopers 3 "It's a Good Day to Die" song always make me feel "patriotic" for the Federation, even when i know about their tactics of indoctrination, this is what i would call "propaganda done right".

I really recommend you watching Starship Troopers, all of them, Starship Troopers 3 is quite 'meh' but i woudn't say it is that bad, or i just have an odd taste, who knows, at least i would label it above average and re-watch it from time to time.
 
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Neither the king or the minister is particularly wrong on this, Alan is clearly a threat having great military power and is rising up fast and taking him out or slowing him down is perfectly sensible idea even if you don't particularly care about the kingdom itself and would love to usurp the throne yourself. For the king who is young and lacks support in the court promoting someone new makes lot of sense, that's the classic playbook of nobles, promote a new person and you have a lifelong ally. Of course neither is aware of the true powers Alan has so they aren't making the correct decisions but the motives at least make sense.
Yea, I came by pretty much just to post "this inexperienced king definitely managed to get you aiming at someone else" (thus protecting his own ass a bit longer no matter what)
 

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