Kurotonbi no Seija - Vol. 2 Ch. 9 - Turning your trusted partner's expectations into your own strength.

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Anyone else felt a little off this chapter like it jumped around too much?
 
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Thanks for the chapter!

I somehow couldn't comment on the relevant chapter/s so I'll write my rant here.

- Expecting you're basic heal to carry you throughout your conquest against the monarch of demons is pretty dumb. i.e., get your arm chopped off and expecting your heal to work?
Tough luck buddy, your heal only deals with minor wounds. (Which you still somehow get from weakling?)

- You're classes have specified roles and thinking that one role is beneath you, specifically the class that is directly tied to the religion, makes you retarded.
The class was said to be on par with the hero, and they didn't even think about that. Like, yeah the hero has a heal but bro if the saint or sage only had heals but is still treated as on par with the hero then something is up.
Also, having an attack type class means your role is to attack, so busying yourself with healing is a stupid act that's beyond help.

- The dumbasses didn't even think to themselves that they need to equally progress to have balance in their team. They all just try to hoard the levels for their own then kick out the one that's lagging behind because of it.
If they were gonna do that then they shouldn't have bothered forming a party with each other to begin with, cuz a party is meant to help each other out (or synergize) to achieve a goal. The least they could have done was give some last hit bonuses.
The girl thought she cared but didn't even bother helping during it all, like bruh. You think just because you are sympathetic you're better? Turns out you were just another bystander.

- I doubt the dumbass party even bothered to learn cuz they had "OP classes," but did the people even try to teach them? They didn't even explain what each role was meant to do... bruh.
Also, the 3 role system is a pretty common thing in fantasy worlds (dps, tank and healer)... if people didn't research these stuff and put them in books and the education system then I wonder how they've even manage to survive in such a hostile world.
Even the basics of class, role and party formation was ignored and they only rely on word of mouth from experienced individuals... just how many newbs were killed off in this world if that was the case.
If you were gonna risk your life at least learn a bit about what you're getting into. Even the MC didn't know the standards of his own branch class.

This rant got pretty long and incoherent. I hope noone tried to read this cuz I'd feel immense shame. 😐
 
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Thanks for the chapter!

I somehow couldn't comment on the relevant chapter/s so I'll write my rant here.

- Expecting you're basic heal to carry you throughout your conquest against the monarch of demons is pretty dumb. i.e., get your arm chopped off and expecting your heal to work?
Tough luck buddy, your heal only deals with minor wounds. (Which you still somehow get from weakling?)

- You're classes have specified roles and thinking that one role is beneath you, specifically the class that is directly tied to the religion, makes you retarded.
The class was said to be on par with the hero, and they didn't even think about that. Like, yeah the hero has a heal but bro if the saint or sage only had heals but is still treated as on par with the hero then something is up.
Also, having an attack type class means your role is to attack, so busying yourself with healing is a stupid act that's beyond help.

- The dumbasses didn't even think to themselves that they need to equally progress to have balance in their team. They all just try to hoard the levels for their own then kick out the one that's lagging behind because of it.
If they were gonna do that then they shouldn't have bothered forming a party with each other to begin with, cuz a party is meant to help each other out (or synergize) to achieve a goal. The least they could have done was give some last hit bonuses.
The girl thought she cared but didn't even bother helping during it all, like bruh. You think just because you are sympathetic you're better? Turns out you were just another bystander.

- I doubt the dumbass party even bothered to learn cuz they had "OP classes," but did the people even try to teach them? They didn't even explain what each role was meant to do... bruh.
Also, the 3 role system is a pretty common thing in fantasy worlds (dps, tank and healer)... if people didn't research these stuff and put them in books and the education system then I wonder how they've even manage to survive in such a hostile world.
Even the basics of class, role and party formation was ignored and they only rely on word of mouth from experienced individuals... just how many newbs were killed off in this world if that was the case.
If you were gonna risk your life at least learn a bit about what you're getting into. Even the MC didn't know the standards of his own branch class.

This rant got pretty long and incoherent. I hope noone tried to read this cuz I'd feel immense shame. 😐
Basically like almost every exile/betrayal from party series I've ever read has the Antagonist ex-party be retarded. They underestimate a class thats clearly either OP and/or a requirement. In this series when that new member tells them they are idiots for dropping the healer, I tihnk this is the first or one of very few that have ever had the party straight up told "You dun fucked up"
 
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Thanks for the chapter!

I somehow couldn't comment on the relevant chapter/s so I'll write my rant here.

- Expecting you're basic heal to carry you throughout your conquest against the monarch of demons is pretty dumb. i.e., get your arm chopped off and expecting your heal to work?
Tough luck buddy, your heal only deals with minor wounds. (Which you still somehow get from weakling?)

- You're classes have specified roles and thinking that one role is beneath you, specifically the class that is directly tied to the religion, makes you retarded.
The class was said to be on par with the hero, and they didn't even think about that. Like, yeah the hero has a heal but bro if the saint or sage only had heals but is still treated as on par with the hero then something is up.
Also, having an attack type class means your role is to attack, so busying yourself with healing is a stupid act that's beyond help.

- The dumbasses didn't even think to themselves that they need to equally progress to have balance in their team. They all just try to hoard the levels for their own then kick out the one that's lagging behind because of it.
If they were gonna do that then they shouldn't have bothered forming a party with each other to begin with, cuz a party is meant to help each other out (or synergize) to achieve a goal. The least they could have done was give some last hit bonuses.
The girl thought she cared but didn't even bother helping during it all, like bruh. You think just because you are sympathetic you're better? Turns out you were just another bystander.

- I doubt the dumbass party even bothered to learn cuz they had "OP classes," but did the people even try to teach them? They didn't even explain what each role was meant to do... bruh.
Also, the 3 role system is a pretty common thing in fantasy worlds (dps, tank and healer)... if people didn't research these stuff and put them in books and the education system then I wonder how they've even manage to survive in such a hostile world.
Even the basics of class, role and party formation was ignored and they only rely on word of mouth from experienced individuals... just how many newbs were killed off in this world if that was the case.
If you were gonna risk your life at least learn a bit about what you're getting into. Even the MC didn't know the standards of his own branch class.

This rant got pretty long and incoherent. I hope noone tried to read this cuz I'd feel immense shame. 😐
Don't worry man. The rant is pretty good ngl. I want to add that it's not just healers. The same can be said about support roles in party. The idiots thought that just because the one that has to carry their luggage (such as items, equipments, loot and so on) is not worth it because apparently, he cannot fight. So, lets kick him out of the party.

I get that the support still needs a weapon but that's because they need to so that they can protect themselves when OTHERS WERE UNABLE TO PROTECT THEM. The role of support is to carry your party's food and healing items. Those that had the ability to fight should protect your support. Once your support is dead and gone, you can kiss your lives and adventures goodbye.

As they said time and time again, "The army cannot fight with an empty stomach.".
 
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Don't worry man. The rant is pretty good ngl. I want to add that it's not just healers. The same can be said about support roles in party. The idiots thought that just because the one that has to carry their luggage (such as items, equipments, loot and so on) is not worth it because apparently, he cannot fight. So, lets kick him out of the party.

I get that the support still needs a weapon but that's because they need to so that they can protect themselves when OTHERS WERE UNABLE TO PROTECT THEM. The role of support is to carry your party's food and healing items. Those that had the ability to fight should protect your support. Once your support is dead and gone, you can kiss your lives and adventures goodbye.

As they said time and time again, "The army cannot fight with an empty stomach.".
And the Betrayal/Exile party everytime is like "We don't need you your useless" and everytime it's not even 3 days in world and they're like "We dun fucked up" and/or "I refuse to beleive such a person/class/role was that important."
 
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And the Betrayal/Exile party everytime is like "We don't need you your useless" and everytime it's not even 3 days in world and they're like "We dun fucked up" and/or "I refuse to beleive such a person/class/role was that important."
I think the only series that I saw that had this format and did it correctly was the Curseifier one, where they don't believe the buffs from the cursed weapons were powerful, and then thought they were cursed in retaliation. Those thoughts stemmed from the stigma of cursed items and how absurd the MC managed to make his items while loopholing the curses.
 
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Chp 27 if you're looking for the point in the novel to find out what's next.
 
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The balance of the world sucks.
MC was dumb as shit for not going around with a sword anyway, what would the hero do if he brought that and a staff?
MC lost against the paladin for a difference in jobs, stats and the fact he was barely level 5 and her 23.
Only the last hitter gets the exp? that sucks, I thought that a party at least had sghred exp.
MC could kill a boss dragon with a couple shots at level 1 and barely knocked back a living armor at level 8.
This story is written with feets.
 
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Something that really grinds my gears as bad storytelling: skipping dialogue only to flashback to it 5 pages later to explain what they said after they demonstrated what they said.
 

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