Kusunoki-san wa Koukou Debut ni Shippai Shite Iru - Ch. 54.1 - I wonder what they actually like (First Part)

[Apollo_Ibis]

Snek

 

[Ragnolock]

You're an idiot. Each person will have their own preferences on how and when to give it, but that's all superfluous. Forgiveness requires nothing for you to give.

You're not even self-aware of your own behaviour. You, Litreara and that dumbass troll. You treat Hebikawa as if you have personal dealings with her. You don't, she's not real. Hell, you're even more vindictive towards her than people are IRL (your standards btw).

Talk about literacy problems. I said the author is going to make Hebikawa change. She hasn't yet.

I know some people can't be born smart, but still, try to do better.

"Foreshadowing is a literary device that writers utilize as a means to indicate or hint to readers something that is to follow or appear later in a story."

Crazy that instead of actually replying with anything of actual substance you choose to result to ad-hominem. That is a sign of having a weak argument.

Your entire standards for "We should forgive her" is based on things that have not happened yet. I find it ironic that you are insulting people being critical or a character, and just not enjoying their personality with the "Trust me bro she is going to be redeemed". Talk about superficial.

Maybe you should take some time to READ my other comments. I said pretty clearly that I think she contributes well to the story, and makes things not boring. I just don't like her, and that is fine. She has not done anything to make me like her. You can like a character's contribution to the story and not like a character, but unfortunately you don't understand that. You are playing hard defense for a fictional character, because you simply want to live in an echo chamber.

 

[Ragnolock]

Foreshadowing isn't redemption nor forgiveness. It's a hint that redemption might come later. That doesn't mean readers should act like she's already there.

The author can hint all they want, but that doesn't mean Hebikawa has done anything yet. She hasn't withdrawn her plan to use Keisuke. She hasn't apologized. She hasn't abandoned her worldview. She hasn't taken responsibility. The author saying "she might change" is not the same as Hebikawa saying "I was wrong."

Right now, Hebikawa is still at the starting line. She's caught feelings for Keisuke and that's it. But that just complicates her plan, it doesn't replace it. She hasn't done the work. You are treating foreshadowing as if it's already happened, skipping multiple chapters in your own head.

Foreshadowing is a promise. The payoff is the work. And the work hasn't started yet.

Careful now you are making too much sense. You may catch the wrath of a random MD commenter playing defense for their waifu.

 

[ipmanvsthemask]

Foreshadowing isn't redemption nor forgiveness. It's a hint that redemption might come later. That doesn't mean readers should act like she's already there.

The author can hint all they want, but that doesn't mean Hebikawa has done anything yet. She hasn't withdrawn her plan to use Keisuke. She hasn't apologized. She hasn't abandoned her worldview. She hasn't taken responsibility. The author saying "she might change" is not the same as Hebikawa saying "I was wrong."

Right now, Hebikawa is still at the starting line. She's caught feelings for Keisuke and that's it. But that just complicates her plan, it doesn't replace it. She hasn't done the work. You are treating foreshadowing as if it's already happened, skipping multiple chapters in your own head.

Foreshadowing is a promise. The payoff is the work. And the work hasn't started yet.

"We're going 100kmph and there's a deer on this narrow road. But since we haven't hit it yet, we should just keep going."

Crazy that instead of actually replying with anything of actual substance you choose to result to ad-hominem. That is a sign of having a weak argument.

Your entire standards for "We should forgive her" is based on things that have not happened yet. I find it ironic that you are insulting people being critical or a character, and just not enjoying their personality with the "Trust me bro she is going to be redeemed". Talk about superficial.

Maybe you should take some time to READ my other comments. I said pretty clearly that I think she contributes well to the story, and makes things not boring. I just don't like her, and that is fine. She has not done anything to make me like her. You can like a character's contribution to the story and not like a character, but unfortunately you don't understand that. You are playing hard defense for a fictional character, because you simply want to live in an echo chamber.

You lack basic logically deduction. Get AI to explain it to you. I'm not gonna do it.

You guys treat Hebikawa as if you're Keisuke and Kusunoki. You're not. They're not even real. It's not healthy. Do get help.

 

[Litreara]

"We're going 100kmph and there's a deer on this narrow road. But since we haven't hit it yet, we should just keep going."

You guys treat Hebikawa as if you're Keisuke and Kusunoki. You're not. They're not even real. It's not healthy. Do get help.

You posted a definition of foreshadowing like it was a mic drop, I responded with a breakdown of why it doesn't apply the way you think it does, and now you're telling me to get help because I'm too invested in fictional characters. You are just deflecting without engaging while acting like you are intellectually superior. Get off your high horse, you're not. You're here, in the same forum thread, writing analogies about deer and fictional characters.

The deer analogy doesn't even work. I'm not saying "keep going and hit it." I'm saying "don't act like we've already passed it when it's still standing in the road." You're celebrating a redemption that hasn't happened yet and treating foreshadowing like it's the same thing as the character actually doing the work. That's not me being unhealthy. That's me reading the story as it's written instead of the version you've already imagined in your head.

If you have an actual counterargument to what I said, feel free to make it. But so far all you've done is deflect, dismiss, and now concern troll.

 

[Ragnolock]

"We're going 100kmph and there's a deer on this narrow road. But since we haven't hit it yet, we should just keep going."

You lack basic logically deduction. Get AI to explain it to you. I'm not gonna do it.

You guys treat Hebikawa as if you're Keisuke and Kusunoki. You're not. They're not even real. It's not healthy. Do get help.

"Do get help" meanwhile you are playing defense on a forum for a fictional character. Simply because I expressed that I don't like a character.

Also you used the wrong form of logical. "You lack basic logical deduction." Maybe get AI to teach you the proper forms of a word to use before commenting on someone else's intelligence. Speaking of epic foreshadowing. I remember saying the longer you go. The dumber you are going to look. I guess we have reached the pinnacle of that statement.

 

[Ragnolock]

You posted a definition of foreshadowing like it was a mic drop, I responded with a breakdown of why it doesn't apply the way you think it does, and now you're telling me to get help because I'm too invested in fictional characters. You are just deflecting without engaging while acting like you are intellectually superior. Get off your high horse, you're not. You're here, in the same forum thread, writing analogies about deer and fictional characters.

The deer analogy doesn't even work. I'm not saying "keep going and hit it." I'm saying "don't act like we've already passed it when it's still standing in the road." You're celebrating a redemption that hasn't happened yet and treating foreshadowing like it's the same thing as the character actually doing the work. That's not me being unhealthy. That's me reading the story as it's written instead of the version you've already imagined in your head.

If you have an actual counterargument to what I said, feel free to make it. But so far all you've done is deflect, dismiss, and now concern troll.

The crazy level of projection from this guy is insane. He says we need to get help meanwhile he is arguing with 2 people who simply expressed their opinions on a fictional character. The jokes write themselves.

 

[Treethatsadog]

The plush is alright, but the soccer ball sucker? Really? Come on man, step it up.

 

[ipmanvsthemask]

You posted a definition of foreshadowing like it was a mic drop, I responded with a breakdown of why it doesn't apply the way you think it does, and now you're telling me to get help because I'm too invested in fictional characters. You are just deflecting without engaging while acting like you are intellectually superior. Get off your high horse, you're not. You're here, in the same forum thread, writing analogies about deer and fictional characters.

The deer analogy doesn't even work. I'm not saying "keep going and hit it." I'm saying "don't act like we've already passed it when it's still standing in the road." You're celebrating a redemption that hasn't happened yet and treating foreshadowing like it's the same thing as the character actually doing the work. That's not me being unhealthy. That's me reading the story as it's written instead of the version you've already imagined in your head.

If you have an actual counterargument to what I said, feel free to make it. But so far all you've done is deflect, dismiss, and now concern troll.

Forgone conclusion.

 

[Litreara]

Forgone conclusion.

No counterargument. Just buzzwords, bad analogies, and concern trolling. That's a lot of words for "I have no real response." But sure, keep going.

 

[CulR]

Isn't the author a woman?

i dunno

 

[ipmanvsthemask]

No counterargument. Just buzzwords, bad analogies, and concern trolling. That's a lot of words for "I have no real response." But sure, keep going.

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<--- Intellectual superiority.

 

[Carn109]

I'm sure that Hebikawa (snek) will be elated to get a gift considering her home situation

 

[Ragnolock]

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Stoopid

<--- Intellectual superiority.

Lost basic language function after making the biggest grammar blunder of your life. God that must have been embarrassing to insult someone else's literacy while using an adverb in place of an adjective. I also would just stop trying if that happened to me.

No counterargument. Just buzzwords, bad analogies, and concern trolling. That's a lot of words for "I have no real response." But sure, keep going.

He is just going to continue to reply nothing burger responses because his fragile ego will think "If I got the last word that means I won".

 

[gloss]

You all are really pressed about characters who haven't actually done anything in a manga where nothing of note ever happens

 

[long0963]

Luv you snake

 

[WaterSoluble]

You all are really pressed about characters who haven't actually done anything in a manga where nothing of note ever happens

The second most interesting thing about this manga is the snake. The comments are the most interesting thing by a clear mile.

 

[Skyknight2003]

Kinda surprised he is even giving Snek girl something. I do kinda wonder if her messing with her step father will cause her to be put at risk forcing MC to get her out of her own mess. Might make her interest in him real. Or the snek girl might just stay a snake lol.