No one's arguing she's a great person tho. It's that mc was really being a bitch with this whole exchange. He's making her like some super evil woman even tho he barely knows her. Also lmao, Shizuki telling Hebikawa to stay away from Kusunoki says so much about him.
I do kind of get what she's saying, though. MC has been thinking of her like she's his arch nemesis, like she deliberately did that to screw him over, and now she's come to his high school and he has to be really careful that she doesn't find him out cause she's gonna get him!! When really, the truth is, she never cared about him. What she did to him was bad, and it affect him really badly, but from her perspective it was just a minor thing, and she probably did it to other guys as well. He has made things worse for himself by fixating so much on her.
The problem with the trauma is that that's not something he can control. That's why it's trauma. If you wanna criticise that and say it's an overreaction, you have to criticise the author, since the author is the one who decided that he has that trauma. Trauma wouldn't be trauma if people could just decide to get over it.
Kusunoki isn't responsible for his social and mental well-being. He drove himself into a corner all by himself. Social skills aren't rocket science. If you don't have any friends, the problem is inside, not outside.
It literally says nothing about him whatsoever lmafo you can’t genuinely be trying to run the ‘he’s worse than hebikawa’ line he’s just trying to protect his friend from a spiteful person who doesn’t actually like her ( the exact same situation he went through with her)
I don't know who you're replying to cuz it surely isn't me. 1) I never mentioned Kusunoki in any of this nor said she's responsible for anything. 2) Surely you aren't trying to make the argument that it's somehow his fault that people bullied/made fun of him for checks notes reading manga and being a bit fat? 3) How does his lack of social skills justify Hebikawa's behavior against him? Does being socially awkward mean he deserves to be manipulated and taken advantage of?
Not that specifically but just that he was a loser. I think you forget how teenagers are. It would be easy for a popular girl to devastate a normal guy's social life by bringing it up and joking about it in front of everyoneBlackmail using the fact that he used to be fat?
I'll chalk it up to teenage insecurity.
But it's the cashier's job to be courteous to you. In Hebikawa's case, she had not such obligations, to him or to some third-party. The obligation she did have was to not take advantage of his vulnerability like that. If she had just left him alone when she wasn't interested in him in the first place, Shizuki wouldn't still be recoiling from the trauma.
I was hoping that it would go that Hebikawa was actually in love with him.He need to conquer his own fear by dating Hebikawa.
Idk man I have a lot to say but I'll just say this. I still don't trust her but is an interesting character. Shizuki has a lot to work on but his pain is understandable. Kusunoki is...well Kusunoki. I just think people a to quick to flip flop. I think I am down on the snake because I am not a big fan of the schemer type characters.
Take advantage how though? Like she didn't scam him out of money or pressure him into doing errands for her or really get anything out of it other than the nebulous "make myself look better" by....being fake nice to him? If he had never walked in on that conversation there would have been no actual harm done. It's shitty but relatively low on the scale. Agree that she should've just left him alone, but IMO her biggest slight here is talking shit about him publicly after faking being nice, not the faking itself. Take that away and you're left with a dude developing a crush on someone just because they're pleasant during small talk and getting upset when he realizes it doesn't mean anything.
