Ogami Tsumiki to Kinichijou - Vol. 1 Ch. 3 - Tsumiki-san and Lunch

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I can't help but feel like... going for the neck is a very strange choice--anatomically, it's a weak point, and he's basically a stranger. It'd make much more sense, surely, for her to present him with her arm or something, no? You know, just... some part of her body that isn't a huge weak spot by any kind of logic.
This is actually addressed later! He can get the blood from, oh, the arm or finger, but right now feels he has to live up to his image of being a debonair chad vampire, and dammit real chad vampires drink from the neck. And Tsumiki's all 'whatever, he's not a threat' so goes along with it.
 
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Judging from the raw's progress that must've been explained in an already-translated chapter... which means I appear to have just totally forgotten about that. Aha, whoops.
 
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Got curious and went to skim through the comments for the first upload of this chapter. Kids really had their fun
 
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Thanks to the Emergency Tsumiki Committee for the translation.

Anyone upset at this chapter before or after the update is missing the entire point of the series. These characters are not human and as we have seen with Tsumiki, some of them literally didn't even grow up in human society. Why would they have the same sense of values as humans? Even between western and eastern culture in real life we have drastically different senses of value. Why is that so hard for people to see?


It's only weird because you want it to be weird. You say necks should be protected cause they're vulnerable. But Tsumiki is not an actual animal, she has logic and reason. She understands the guy isn't trying to hurt her. And to her, there is nothing 'sacred' about her blood or her neck. So as long as she trust that he wont hurt her, why wouldn't she let him do that? And trust like that is common even among humans in small communities where "Everyone knows each other" that kind of trust carries over a lot of the time, and we know Tsumiki is from such a small community.

I agree with your point, but I think the reason people actually hated maybe was the way Senga asked for blood, and he even grabbed Tsumiki by her tie when he asked.(Tsumiki looks unhappy ? )
I think it's perfectly fine for someone to eat when they're hungry, but Senga use of something like emotional blackmail to demand blood from Tsumiki is very irritating.

At least now Senga acts like a normal person in the later chapters, I guess there won't be any more controversy.
 
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Thanks to the Emergency Tsumiki Committee for the translation.



I agree with your point, but I think the reason people actually hated maybe was the way Senga asked for blood, and he even grabbed Tsumiki by her tie when he asked.(Tsumiki looks unhappy ? )
I think it's perfectly fine for someone to eat when they're hungry, but Senga use of something like emotional blackmail to demand blood from Tsumiki is very irritating.

At least now Senga acts like a normal person in the later chapters, I guess there won't be any more controversy.
That is fair, but if that was the case there is no reason for people to be mad at the manga or author for. Because Senga was intentionally written in this moment to be a 'bad guy' and we later find out why he's acting like this. But this is a 'bad guy being a bad guy' event. We are not supposed to see Senga's behavior as 'good'. But there is zero reason to be mad at Tsumiki over it or the author.
 
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This is actually addressed later! He can get the blood from, oh, the arm or finger, but right now feels he has to live up to his image of being a debonair chad vampire, and dammit real chad vampires drink from the neck. And Tsumiki's all 'whatever, he's not a threat' so goes along with it.
I heardfromafriendheadcanon that neck blood just tastes better :lul:

Tsumiki's healing factor seems to be forgotten in the whole "vulnerable spot" discourse--if she'll heal though it, it's not really vulnerable is it?

Now, her maiden's heart on the other hand...:haa:
 
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Author must have needed to add this disclaimer after the actual paying otaku customers in Japan lost their shit when this chap came out.

Whatever we dirty gaijin pirates say here in the comments is irrelevant to most mangaka in Japan.

It's when their actual customers get pissed off that they care.
I'm sad that the reaction on this site is the same one

or at least a lot of it was
 
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I don't get how people can't see things from the other side. In these first three chapters alone this manga has played with closeness and expectations with Tsumiki and Yutaka sniffing each other and as far as we are in the manga they got as close as Yutaka brushing her tail. So for chapter three to give you kissing imagery, even if its imaginary, to unequivocally tell you that you are reading something with romance; to tell you in plain words that Yutaka might be feeling jealous, does seem like a bit much for where its at.

"Why do people feel put off at this thing that's clearly supposed to make you feel put off?" Are some people taking this too far, yes. But is that also what this chapter was trying to do... YES. But also just because the story continues to play with this chapter's elements later doesn't make it a retcon. Adding that note doesn't make it a retcon. Let peope have thier opinons but there's a lot of misreading of this chapter coming from both sides.
 
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I don't get how people can't see things from the other side. In these first three chapters alone this manga has played with closeness and expectations with Tsumiki and Yutaka sniffing each other and as far as we are in the manga they got as close as Yutaka brushing her tail. So for chapter three to give you kissing imagery, even if its imaginary, to unequivocally tell you that you are reading something with romance; to tell you in plain words that Yutaka might be feeling jealous, does seem like a bit much for where its at.

"Why do people feel put off at this thing that's clearly supposed to make you feel put off?" Are some people taking this too far, yes. But is that also what this chapter was trying to do... YES. But also just because the story continues to play with this chapter's elements later doesn't make it a retcon. Adding that note doesn't make it a retcon. Let peope have thier opinons but there's a lot of misreading of this chapter coming from both sides.
My point proven is always fun.

Truely a shame media literacy is so low these days.
 
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Looks over the chapter, scratching his head

So.... Protag-Kun is... Checks notes a Vampire?? Am I getting that correctly??

So this controversy is just the whole "Lycan vs. Vampire" thing from Underworld, right?? Is that what this is about?!?
 
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This is so f..king wrong and messed up... I mean if you think of it for a sec if the MC sees the whole thing through "humans" lens then the situation would look like something out of a Dracula film right? A monster converting a human or something like that. Instead he pictures it like that... Not gonna waste time overanalyzing it, we all know what it really meant. Not expecting great things of the MC now I guess... or the author.
 
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Anyone upset at this chapter before or after the update is missing the entire point of the series. These characters are not human and as we have seen with Tsumiki, some of them literally didn't even grow up in human society. Why would they have the same sense of values as humans? Even between western and eastern culture in real life we have drastically different senses of value. Why is that so hard for people to see?


It's only weird because you want it to be weird. You say necks should be protected cause they're vulnerable. But Tsumiki is not an actual animal, she has logic and reason. She understands the guy isn't trying to hurt her. And to her, there is nothing 'sacred' about her blood or her neck. So as long as she trust that he wont hurt her, why wouldn't she let him do that? And trust like that is common even among humans in small communities where "Everyone knows each other" that kind of trust carries over a lot of the time, and we know Tsumiki is from such a small community.
It's what the MC pictures in his imagination what is wrong friend, It's just plain weird. A normal person would look at a vampire sucking a person neck like something out of a terror film. MC imagined it like it that. What does that say about the him lol. Don't let him get near the catgirls...
 
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It's what the MC pictures in his imagination what is wrong friend, It's just plain weird. A normal person would look at a vampire sucking a person neck like something out of a terror film. MC imagined it like it that. What does that say about the him lol. Don't let him get near the catgirls...
We look at it as a horror thing because vampires aren't real. Vampires have been known to exist in their world for years. They have already been accepted as "Not monsters" in their society. Perfect example "Normal people wouldn't' choose to go to a school with them". So while people are still adjusting to their customs, society has already accepted them as 'people' not 'monsters' so their quirks are no longer "monstrous" or "terrifying" but rather, "weird"
 
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It's what the MC pictures in his imagination what is wrong friend, It's just plain weird. A normal person would look at a vampire sucking a person neck like something out of a terror film. MC imagined it like it that. What does that say about the him lol. Don't let him get near the catgirls...
Vampires in fiction have been sexualized from the very beginning. In most fictional works, they are depicted as very beautiful and seducing men and women as a method of hunting. The victims are very often portrayed as experiencing something similar to sexual pleasure while they are being fed on. Not to mention that in real life, someone sucking on your neck is almost guaranteed to be a sexual act. So I think it's entirely normal to make that association, and it'd be weird if you didn't.
 

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