Otome Game no Heroine de Saikyou Survival - Ch. 38

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Excuse me but... How is that Mary Sue again? I feel like nowadays people keep calling anything Mary Sue for no reason. My brother in reading, Mary Sue would be her one-shotting everything and everyone no matter how strong they are without taking a single hp drop nor being tired in the slightest. If clutching in the end pitting your all into strongest attack you can master, while you are 1 hit away from death is Mary Sue, then there is almost no hero who is not Mary Sue

"Mary Sue" these days is often used to mean "a girl is doing it" Rather than "is perfect in every way, everybody loves them, is in a relationship with the other main character(s), and never faces any real adversity or challenge".
 
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Holy shit probably the only part of this entire manga that felt like it wasnt going to get axed the next chapter, the finisher looked so cool too
 
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That was a very satisfying battle, thank you for the tl.

I kinda dislike the author for continually insisting she would have less ability to fight well BC of wearing underwear. Genuinely didn't think we'd get this far into the series and still have that clearly be a thing with Aria.🥲like girl it's okay just wear it...
Wait... She's not wearing underwear? Did they mention that anywhere? Did I just forget or never notcied?
 
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Well... I just, like, forgetting everything else...
I just like the Impact panel, where it's just her attacking the Orc and everything else is just white background. It just feels nice to look at, peacefull even.
 
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I'd say the description of purifying her mana worked better in the LN. I think part of that might be how text heavy it is, but also the art was just what was happening at the time, and some rather vague depictions of the magic, rather than matching the metaphors, which I think is a bit of a miss.
Could you give me a quote or snippet that you're referring to‽ I'm quite curious now
 
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Wait... She's not wearing underwear? Did they mention that anywhere? Did I just forget or never notcied?
Back during the early chapters they made a note of how she didn't like them restricting her movement when she was first at the noble house being trained by the head maid, and the head maid's son upskirted her. (She nearly killed him in response)

Edit: chapter 11. It was BC she wasn't sure where to hide her weapons but imo there still must be better places 😭 (she still seems to wear it exactly the same as back then)
 
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Excuse me but... How is that Mary Sue again? I feel like nowadays people keep calling anything Mary Sue for no reason. My brother in reading, Mary Sue would be her one-shotting everything and everyone no matter how strong they are without taking a single hp drop nor being tired in the slightest. If clutching in the end pitting your all into strongest attack you can master, while you are 1 hit away from death is Mary Sue, then there is almost no hero who is not Mary Sue
Things have been going extremely well for her all around, she won all but one (?) encounter.
Saying she has 1HP while winning is meaningless, because going to 1HP doesnt translate to lasting consequences in this story.
You might as well say she was a "little tired" after soloing the entire assassins guild because she slept it off anyway.
She doesnt get hurt, her friends dont get hurt, she isnt part of any group that could face consequences either.
Mary sue doesnt mean you are one punch man it means you never lose, this kid has infinite plot armor.
This entire story so far has been her power leveling at no loss.
 
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Back during the early chapters they made a note of how she didn't like them restricting her movement when she was first at the noble house being trained by the head maid, and the head maid's son upskirted her. (She nearly killed him in response)

Edit: chapter 11. It was BC she wasn't sure where to hide her weapons but imo there still must be better places 😭 (she still seems to wear it exactly the same as back then)
Oh right, I kinda forgot about that. My brain must have put it under "that's just Japanese humor for you, don't worry about it, it's not important"
 
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Wait... She's not wearing underwear? Did they mention that anywhere? Did I just forget or never notcied?
Initially she didn't bother cause she didn't like how cumbersome were old fashioned panties and apparently she had no sense of shame, so even if someone looked under her skirt she didn't gave a dung. Despite not liking being skirt flipped at all (look like it was more butthurt for being surprised than the fact someone looked under her skirt).
Later her "master" the dark elf reprimanded her multiple times and complained how she absolutely needed to learn some "shame". And she gave her a set of string panties that are way less invasive than the regular available ones. Aria started to wear them cause look like other people made a big deal out of it. And so that's the sad and heartbreaking end of the ashen no-pan princess. :angery:
 
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Damn she really drained herself during that fight :meguupog:
hope not that there are other orcs around now that she's beat :aquadrink:
 
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From one of the earlier fights where MC got stabbed in the gut by the princess kidnapper it's already known that healing magic can heal scars and internal organs.
And later on also regenerate missing limbs but also still need rehab.
It's also part of combat maid protocol to heal scarring away.
 
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Pretty cool fight, though i think it doesn't fit her character as well as it should. She kind of just lost the preparation part of her fighting style. though she did poison them, but that kind of felt like the bare minimum. She usually had layers of prep, if i recall correctly. Or she performed a well timed assassination.

She also now is willing to fight to death for any random person she meets? Would need to re-read to really pinpoint her motivational aspects. From what i remember she was mainly motivated by self preservation. Then she met her master and came to care for her and thus fought for her.

At least this mini arc is done now so we can progress again.
Assassin isn't really her ambition, just a transition state to make up for lacking strength. This happened before when she baited the criminal adventurer into a duel and explicitly lets him execute a full power maneuver to trade blows against.
 
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Things have been going extremely well for her all around, she won all but one (?) encounter.
Saying she has 1HP while winning is meaningless, because going to 1HP doesnt translate to lasting consequences in this story.
You might as well say she was a "little tired" after soloing the entire assassins guild because she slept it off anyway.
She doesnt get hurt, her friends dont get hurt, she isnt part of any group that could face consequences either.
Mary sue doesnt mean you are one punch man it means you never lose, this kid has infinite plot armor.
This entire story so far has been her power leveling at no loss.
I understand your point of view, but no, Mary Sue, is specifically someone who have it always their way without any difficulty, not someone who never loses, Most MCs of stories never truly lose, they can get set backs, retreat, lose a limb even, but it is almost never something truly of permanent irreplacable loss, while most that do have it, leaning into depressive, grimdark or just horrible world stories. This right here is not that kind of story, so expecting it and then calling her Mary Sue for that is just far too much. You don't need to lose every other battle or lose your family and friends to not be Mary Sue, you need a steady improvement, believeable motivation and some high stakes, Aria have it all, and her final battles are always done in a way that she will not back down, cannot just retreat and have to do her all for a win at near death, in those situation the only way she can Lose is to Die, and that will be end of the story. Congratulations The story everyone love is over with MC dead, but at least she is not Mary Sue nor having plot armor aye?
 
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I understand your point of view, but no, Mary Sue, is specifically someone who have it always their way without any difficulty, not someone who never loses, Most MCs of stories never truly lose, they can get set backs, retreat, lose a limb even, but it is almost never something truly of permanent irreplacable loss, while most that do have it, leaning into depressive, grimdark or just horrible world stories. This right here is not that kind of story, so expecting it and then calling her Mary Sue for that is just far too much. You don't need to lose every other battle or lose your family and friends to not be Mary Sue, you need a steady improvement, believeable motivation and some high stakes, Aria have it all, and her final battles are always done in a way that she will not back down, cannot just retreat and have to do her all for a win at near death, in those situation the only way she can Lose is to Die, and that will be end of the story. Congratulations The story everyone love is over with MC dead, but at least she is not Mary Sue nor having plot armor aye?
What are you saying, she does always get her way, she just kills whatever she comes across and worst case she needs to take a big nap
 

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