Otome Game Sekai wa Mob ni Kibishii Sekai desu (Kyouwakoku-hen) - Ch. 5

[Miorioff]

What the fuck is this stupid plot, how the fuck you can bet something which is not yours

 

[WonderingSFaiz]

The match between Leon and Pierre is gonna be awesome

 

[mvodinh]

In what world would a wager over a ship, which neither party is the registered owner of, be recognized as a valid wager? Is this sacred tree retarded?

the tree? no
but the individual pierre, yes he is.
hes basically just worse example of the kingdom nobles abusing their sacred tree powers

Spoiler

FYI hes very retarded. the kingdom were well aware of his activities and behavior, even his own family wants to get rid of him. but due to being from a noble family, they can't touch him. hence his condescending personality.

until the fight against leon. not only luxion gather intel on the kingdom for leon, but also expose pierre crimes to the public. thus finally gave the kingdom a reason to get rid of him. allegedly he committed suicide, but other theorized hes being tormented by his older brother. as pierre goal was to usurp his older brother.

 

[Tamult]

The problem is not that it's unfair. It's that the way it is portrayed is nonsensical.

For example, if Evil Noble Guy would have simply said "the sacred tree allows me to do whatever I want, so your ship is now mine", much less people would have complained. Certain people have unfair advantages and privileges, yeah, it happens.

But instead, the story wanted to present this as some kind of devious move on Evil Noble Guy's part, a tricky way to cheat the MC out of his property. Except... it was neither tricky nor smart, since the terms of the duel made no sense whatsoever.

The power set of the Sacred Tree includes oaths. Swearing the oath to the tree for the duel is quite literally the only trigger. It enforces pacts and terms. The Tree itself barely cares what those that have the oath do, baring its own continued existence. Sure, he could have set up something much easier to make that claim, but he needed some thin veneer of legitimacy so that other members the Six Noble families didn't cancel the oath.

The story doesn't outright say the above, but it gets as close as it will. It might do it in the next 2 chapters or so.

His, Pierre's, personality is the worst, essentially a bandit lord masquerading as a noble. He wants to humiliate and denigrate his opponents. The story wants you to feel that he thinks that he is being tricky or devious, because that is how he wants to feel.

For anyone wanting to read the LN from here, Vol 4. Chapter 6. Betrayal.

 

[Caffiend1113]

Neat, see y’all in 3-5 months

 

[HYBRID_BEING]

You know, if Tree was supposed to transfer ownership, then shouldn't Luxion have realized what has happened before the stooges came back?

I'm also a bit sus of Jean bruh with him naming his dog Noelle like what if he's just as deranged as the other two shitheads.

Nah, it seems he named his dog before meeting Noelle, which probably made for a topic starter when they first met.

 

[Psychronia]

Nah, this one ain't on Marie. It's on the dipshits that demonstrably nobody can keep from being stupid. And also that asshole.

Of course, this bully made the mistake of picking a fight with the only guy in the nation with a personality as bad at his. Except Leon is competent at dealing with assholes.

...No, but really. How are you allowed to bet things that you don't own? What's stopping two nobles from betting the entire kingdom on a coin flip against each other?

 

[kekesed97]

Neat, see y’all in 3-5 months

FYI Chapter 6 (RAWS) is available in Dragon Age Feb. 2026 issue (just up a week ago). But it was a short chapter, and it would update in next issue. Well, I ripped that issue if the group want to catch up.

I guarantee you'd find something hillarious up next!

 

[Loliphilosophy]

volume 4. though, i do recommend starting from the beginning, if you have the time~~ verily much enjoyable and manga did skip some funny and/or nuanced pieces

Thanks!

 

[ceneoss]

Can we just get rid of his Sister? Like it's a great story but she's so garbage of a character it's making me hate my own sister 😭

1. This isn't her fault.

2. You don't need fiction to inform you on whether or not you hate your own kin. That's a you problem.

 

[ShadowHusky]

@4thDimension I appreciate your explanation for the mechanism, but I can't really get behind the logic utilized here.

The whole interaction felt braindead, as the people involved in the duel had control over the ship. He could've stepped on an ant and get the same result, so why the bother with a duel in the first place? He could've easily gone British Empire and declare "this is mine because fuck you, tree", and we'd get to the same point in a more understandable manner.

It'd be another thing if this dumbfuckery is just a quirk of this douche to torture people, and that what I described is the norm. But as manga readers, we have no exposure of the rules surrounding the tree.

 

[intmanga]

My sweet revenge
Will be yours for the taking
It's in the making, baby
Ah-ah-ah, ah-ah-ah-ah

 

[intmanga]

@4thDimension I appreciate your explanation for the mechanism, but I can't really get behind the logic utilized here.

The whole interaction felt braindead, as the people involved in the duel had control over the ship. He could've stepped on an ant and get the same result, so why the bother with a duel in the first place? He could've easily gone British Empire and declare "this is mine because fuck you, tree", and we'd get to the same point in a more understandable manner.

It'd be another thing if this dumbfuckery is just a quirk of this douche to torture people, and that what I described is the norm. But as manga readers, we have no exposure of the rules surrounding the tree.

The need for the duel was to bind the 5 idiots to the power of the tree, he could still use some power to attack other but not force them in the way he did in this chapter, if he just goes there and starts a fight, the others can defend themselves better, but by borrowing more power from the tree through the duel, he can just do whatever, and it also gives more legitimacy in case anyone complains, as for the owneship of Einhorn it is as you said "fuck you, tree".

 

[intmanga]

The entire premise of this chapter (even if it pays off later) is pretty stupid. Contracts, magical or otherwise, don't let you bet other people's property. Even an idiot would know that.

You can do pretty much whatever you want if you have the power to supress anyone who disgrees with you. In Alzer, nobles are unchallenged due to the power of the tree, commoners and foreingners are basically at their mercy as long as they are within the sphere of influence of the tree.

 

[kaminomikan]

ugh, this is so slow...
imagine if the story was being created from 0

 

[finalm]

OK....at this point this is just awfully bad writing, just to create a reason for the MC to fight without his Ace in the hole, but making it so it is not his fault....AND IT MAKES ABSOFUCKINGLUTELY NO SENSE!!!!.
How can someone wager something they simply don't own?
And you can't claim the local noble didn't know, because he was specifically told that they were not the owners...

The tree isn't some fair arbiter of conflicts that you imagine. It's a tool for domination and also a construct of an extinct advanced civilization. It does not have concepts of ownership or fairness, all it does is enforce the terms of a challenge. Therefore it technically can't make anything belong to you in any other sense than if that something is taken away from you, it will dish out punishment - it's not even clear if the target would be the person taking it or the original challengers.

Also there were no stipulations on the contents of ship.
Using this totally idiotic logic, I can find a random child and its mother, capture the mother and put a knife on her throat, then demand a duel with the child, with the kingdom as the stake.
And when I inevitably win, the kingdom and EVERYTHING within is now mine. Including the ship, and its contents..

Again , it's just really bad writing, that kinda kills the fun of it...because now I know the author will break all rules and common sense in order to force unearned drama and tension, instead of actually trying to write a proper story..

This is how things are done in that country by the great noble families, at least when commoners are concerned. It's unclear if the same thing would happen if the bet concerned other crest bearers, supposedly not since while the country is not a kingdom by default, one could still get rid of his rival great nobles if anything went like that. So true, the writing has holes here, I've previously said that the best parts are sadly behind us in this series.

 

[finalm]

Like... ya?! Wtf? At this rate two corrupt nobles could bet that they own like... other people and just start enslaving everyone enmass

They do have just such a reputation. They've already funcionally enslaved the population, since they have absolute authority over everything and cannon be challenged in any way.

 

[finalm]

Can we get rid of the princes? Fucking dumb motherfuckers can’t think even with their dicks not hard.

What was there to think about? Refuse his terms, he kills your friend on the spot and repeats the process - the tree grants the crest bearers powers that make them functionally unbeatable the conventional way. It lays entire countries to waste if within it's range of influence. The only way to fight them is by just such challenges, where both sides are potentially up for punishment.

 

[finalm]

Leon could bet the sacred tree itself. Apparently in that country it's possible to bet another person's property, as if it was your own. So, logically Leon could bet the sacred tree. Problem solved.

The other guy could simply not agree and indeed he'd be in trouble with the other crest bearers if he did, even if you assume "owning" something rooted in place has any real meaning. He currently holds all the cards, since the MC has no way to invoke the tree's authority against him.

 

[finalm]

what the heck is with this system? "swear on the sacred tree" and everything is allowed, even the posession of others? why did nobody ever ask for ruling the kingdom then? just do a minor duel and get anything for free.

It's not a kingdom, it's an "old style" republic where a few influential families call all the shots, like in the Venetian Republic. So there is no position of ruler, the great noble families just decide between themselves. It's not explored, but logically you have to assume that this isn't how it works when it involves other great nobles, otherwise it would be trivial to get rid of all rivals one way or another.