Saihate ni Madou - Vol. 1 Ch. 3

[milleniumbug]

@heitaro You mentioned not having access to other chapters at the end of chapter 1. Is this still true? I can supply you with volume 1 (ch 1-5) if you want.

 

[heitaro]

@heitaro You mentioned not having access to other chapters at the end of chapter 1. Is this still true? I can supply you with volume 1 (ch 1-5) if you want.

Thank you for your kind offer! I have access to volume 1 now though, maybe I should go and edit that translator's note... I plan to continue translating the rest of volume 1, and ch.4 should be uploaded sometime next week.

Edit: the translator's note at the end of ch.1 has been updated.

 

[ChibiYT]

DANG IT this is the kind of shit that I love that hard nd crushing feeling inside youuuuuuuuuu

 

[pawzee]

the art style and the nuance reminds me of OMK.
hope it will be good till end

 

[Eighty-six]

Who asked?

You brought up people who killed in self-defense not caring about their killing in response to someone who pointed out that someone in the protagonist's circumstances can easily be traumatized by his murder and its circumstances. You were comparing apples to oranges.

The reason rapists are sometimes more stigmatized than murderers is because there's no justifiable reason to rape someone, but there are plenty of justifiable reasons to kill somebody.

There's never a good reason to murder someone, which is why it's distinguished from manslaughter and justifiable homicide.

Don't call me a Redditor while pitching a deficient ad hoc explanation that doesn't even begin to answer my question.

 

[SageVonManga]

if that's what the MC wanted why didn't she let him ? why should he bear the sadness and the sorrow of being a "weight" to his family

Nothing is really ever that simple. If he kills himself the mother will probably break too, so rather than freeing her he'd basically be taking her with him in a death domino effect.

This author has a weird perception of the world or gives the charcter it. I'm sure everyone would sympathize with him and only the trolls online pr religous nuts would ever demonize him. Maybe japan is just weird, the alternative is the girl has a rapist for a father in jail and is bullied about it, don't see the diff except the father being alive the brother would probably still be depressed as well as the mother.

Society at large would definitely judge him for killing someone and there would be gossip for and against him online about it. His criminal record wouldn't allow him to find any worthwhile work after getting out of prison either. However I think the point of that restaurant scene is that no random stranger even remembers him or what he did, he's hearing the voices and feeling the guilt all on his own. In fact the mere idea 'that someone might remember him from somewhere' triggers him regardless of the reality.

 

[FarAndLow]

This is a gut punch of a manga. Like, I got really emotional in Ch. 2. I hope this has a good story.

 

[amaidolce]

It's been a while since I found a story that grabbed me by the gut.

 

[ankiwi]

Nothing is really ever that simple. If he kills himself the mother will probably break too, so rather than freeing her he'd basically be taking her with him in a death domino effect.


Society at large would definitely judge him for killing someone and there would be gossip for and against him online about it. His criminal record wouldn't allow him to find any worthwhile work after getting out of prison either. However I think the point of that restaurant scene is that no random stranger even remembers him or what he did, he's hearing the voices and feeling the guilt all on his own. In fact the mere idea 'that someone might remember him from somewhere' triggers him regardless of the reality.

Lol no they wouldn't not only did he kill a rapist he killed a pedophile. Only idiots who have never faced hardship or live in a bubble would ever condem him.

 

[silentstryker35]

It seems that Shiika will help MC to stop him from commiting suicide by becoming his second sister

 

[Mr_Detective]

People please talk to your family if you have problem you can't seem to tell anyone...trust me your family will help you, they are your blood and flesh.

Well, that's assuming that your family can be trusted. Not everyone is fortunate to have supporting family members. At least, in this guy's case, his family, the mother, has his back. I'm not sure about his other family members like aunts, uncles, cousins, etc. I'd like to see them as well.

And I know people love to make fun of Japan's mental health support, but in this guy's case, he's gonna need more than just therapy. He's gonna need a lot of love from his family members. He's gonna need acceptance and consolation from people who support him and understand why he did what he did. He's gonna need to accept the fact that he killed someone in a moment of rage, and that there is no way to turn back the clock. His sister is not calling for him, and that killing himself will only worsen the situation and the life of the people who love him. He must learn to ignore people who call him a murderer, even if they are right in a technical sense, who blindly judge him to boost their own ego. None of these can be solved by just "oh he needs glorious superior AMERICAN therapy". He'd need to figure these things out as he continues to live.

Even if this guy was living in another country, he'd still have to deal with the same problems. He'd have people who side him, and those who disapprove of what he did. I think the people are too exaggerating the harmony thing in Japan, especially in a case like this. Seems like a lot of the judgement is from his own imagination as well. Killing someone is not something to be taken lightly. I'm sure most people here have never killed someone before, outside of online games, so they might not relate to the MC's mental state. I actually just blocked an alpha-wannabe who called MC a pussy, by the way. No need to deal with his garbage. Maybe the MC once thought nothing of killing just like you do, until he actually took someone's life. Maybe you guys wouldn't be singing the same tune after you kill someone. Let's not treat killing someone in real life as simple as killing someone in an FPS game.

If a case like this happens in a western country, the US for example, things can be even more complicated when you throw race into the equation.

 

[TheLaCasa]

You brought up people who killed in self-defense not caring about their killing in response to someone who pointed out that someone in the protagonist's circumstances can easily be traumatized by his murder and its circumstances. You were comparing apples to oranges.

No I used self-defense example because the person I was replying to said that killing somebody is always a 'traumatic experience', when that is obviously not the case.

There's never a good reason to murder someone, which is why it's distinguished from manslaughter and justifiable homicide.

Good thing I never said that then lmao

Don't call me a Redditor while pitching a deficient ad hoc explanation

 

[lonelypotatoonabench]

Nothing else to say other than I’m invested man, again hope we don’t trot down the road of over edginess, but if the pacing keeps the same then I think it’s gonna be a damn good manga

 

[Eighty-six]

No I used self-defense example because the person I was replying to said that killing somebody is always a 'traumatic experience', when that is obviously not the case.

He made a slight adjustment in his comment to clarify that it could be a traumatic experience within at most 20 minutes after you made your comment. Fair enough, you were responding to a more absolute statement, whereas I wasn't.

Good thing I never said that then lmao

You didn't even understand the distinction between homicide and murder, and conflated the two in trying to justify the "greater stigma" in question. You can't justify why rapists are sometimes singled out from all other violent felons for fantasies of arbitrarily torturous punishment while murderers aren't, by talking about something that murderers do not do (that is, commit justified homicide).

 

[Garfield9000]

rapists are sometimes singled out from all other violent felons for fantasies of arbitrarily torturous punishment

I hate it when people label others as "evil". From what I've seen, every time that word is used to label someone, it is used to dehumanize them. A justification. An excuse to for people to commit evil themselves.

 

[Orthlum]

rly like this one. made me think of Guilty Gear ost Holy Order(be just or be dead). Didn't know the title till I thought of it and looked it up, haven't played Accent Core +R in over a year. try listening to it around the hallucination scenes.

 

[Akikako]

Please, be just a sister/brother story....

 

[Idefirka]

This is just my personal theory, and one that is close to a couple others but I think the girl is trying to replace the old daughter for the family, in a good way. My guess is that after her father's death she was told or came to understand what he had done. It wouldn't be strange to think, that from her perspective her father killed the entire family basically. The daughter's suicide, and the boy's revenge killing leading to prison, and a completely derailed life, severe PTSD and so on. Their mother had basically lost both of her kids to this not to mention what kind of mental trauma she would have to endure after what had happened.

No one came out well, but Shiika was arguably the least affected out of them all.
Given her demeanour around the mom, she is probably trying to fill in the place her father took from them.

 

[Khulmach]

We all can joke around about how we would kill the bad guys of the manga we read behind the comfort of our keyboards, or how we are such badasses that we would regret nothing, but the reality is that, no matter the reason, killing someone can be a traumatic experience, especially for someone young and in the circumstances that forced MC to act.

Dude seriously deserves to be happy, he and his family has suffered enough...
But this is a Japanese manga so you know more suffering is inbound.

I would only be disgusted by their blood and dirty smell on me.

If you have a gun, then its cleaner than a knife.

 

[TheLaCasa]

You didn't even understand the distinction between homicide and murder, and conflated the two in trying to justify the "greater stigma" in question. You can't justify why rapists are sometimes singled out from all other violent felons for fantasies of arbitrarily torturous punishment while murderers aren't, by talking about something that murderers do not do (that is, commit justified homicide).

Nah lil bro I said that there justifiable reasons to kill someone. When I used the term "murderer" it was referring to the people convicted of the crime of First-Degree/Second-Degree murder, you're just being bad faith.