Sankakkei no Kowashi-kata - Vol. 3 Ch. 12

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Lol, lmao even.

Just because she didn't want to date them then doesn't mean she wouldn't want to date them now. Also, I never said she had to date him. He's just a better option than either of her old friends.
The readers don’t even know him—he’s only shown up in, like, ten panels in the manga. And yet somehow, people (aka Erika fans) are ready to ignore all the character development Aya’s gone through just to suggest she might want to date a boy now? At that rate of personality shift, Aya might want to stab Erika to death tomorrow.

Oh, but I do agree on one thing: Erika is absolutely the worst option. Both Koto and Aya should cut her off completely.
 
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The readers don’t even know him—he’s only shown up in, like, ten panels in the manga.
We don't need to. We really don't.
And yet somehow, people (aka Erika fans) are ready to ignore all the character development Aya’s gone through just to suggest she might want to date a boy now?
How is her dating a boy contradicting any of her previous characterization?
Oh, but I do agree on one thing: Erika is absolutely the worst option. Both Koto and Aya should cut her off completely.
You're vengeful towards a fictional character.
 
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We don't need to. We really don't.
Then how could you say he is the better option lol
How is her dating a boy contradicting any of her previous characterization?
How does Erika stopping herself from betraying her friends and finally moving the fuck on contradict any of her previous characterization?
You're vengeful towards a fictional character.
As the one who caused all the main couple’s tragedy, Erika totally deserves it.
 
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Then how could you say he is the better option lol
My endgoal isn't romance. It's character development, specifically the main characters' development. He is a better choice for her at this point in the story, and he doesn't need to be anything more than that.
How does Erika stopping herself from betraying her friends and finally moving the fuck on contradict any of her previous characterization?
You're not answering my question. And how is Erika betraying any of them?
As the one who caused all the main couple’s tragedy, Erika totally deserves it.
Koto's problems are entirely self-inflicted by the fact that she can't let Aya be her own person. She can't live her life in a fulfilling manner without an assurance that Aya will never leave her, and she will never have it due to the universe's uncaring nature. Aya leaving Koto is a good thing for the both of them.
 
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My endgoal isn't romance. It's character development, specifically the main characters' development. He is a better choice for her at this point in the story, and he doesn't need to be anything more than that.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. A guy you don't even know well obviously is a better choice than Koto, who loves Aya with all her might.
You're not answering my question. And how is Erika betraying any of them?
I already answered your question. What makes you think Aya rejected every single confession except Koto’s? What makes you think Erika never dated anyone in her entire pathetic life?

And you seriously ask me that when Erika’s guilt is one of the juiciest parts of the entire story? Unlike her love-blinded fans, Erika herself would be ashamed of the things she did (but still chose to do it anyways, that's why I hate her so much).
Koto's problems are entirely self-inflicted by the fact that she can't let Aya be her own person. She can't live her life in a fulfilling manner without an assurance that Aya will never leave her, and she will never have it due to the universe's uncaring nature. Aya leaving Koto is a good thing for the both of them.
Koto wasn’t like that seven years ago. The most innocent, cutest girl in the world (middle schooler Koto) was essentially murdered by child Erika’s selfish wish.
 
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A guy you don't even know well obviously is a better choice than Koto, who loves Aya with all her might.
Yeah, Koto's that bad. It doesn't matter that she loves Aya, if she can't make Aya happy with her actions, which she wasn't.
I already answered your question.
You don't answer a question with another one.
What makes you think Aya rejected every single confession except Koto’s?
You think that makes Koto somehow special? You think somehow Aya's mind can't change?
What makes you think Erika never dated anyone in her entire pathetic life?
Where did this even come from? How is this relevant?
Unlike her love-blinded fans, Erika herself would be ashamed of the things she did (but still chose to do it anyways, that's why I hate her so much).
So just because she feels guilt, she is guilty? What has she done that is so bad? You still haven't said what it is.
Koto wasn’t like that seven years ago. The most innocent, cutest girl in the world (middle schooler Koto) was essentially murdered by child Erika’s selfish wish.
You blame Erika for Aya's disappearance? Seriously? Erika is not a paranormal creature. She does not have the power to do that. This is not that kinda story. Also, Koto was always like that. Even if Aya had disappeared by any other means, she still wouldn't have been able to let go of her crush.
 
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Yeah, Koto's that bad. It doesn't matter that she loves Aya, if she can't make Aya happy with her actions, which she wasn't.
Lol, have you even ever been in a relationship?

No relationship in this world has only happiness because humans are complex, emotional, and imperfect — and relationships are the collision of two (or more) such people trying to connect, understand, and share life together. Life Is So Unpredictable that even the healthiest couples would face:

Illness

Job loss

Family issues

Mental health struggles

Grief

No matter how strong the bond is, external pressure will bring in stress, sadness, or frustration. Love can’t prevent pain — only help hold it. That's why they (Koto&Aya) love each other is the only thing matters.
You don't answer a question with another one.
You think that makes Koto somehow special? You think somehow Aya's mind can't change?
Where did this even come from? How is this relevant?
I'm trying to show that both (Aya dates a boy& Erika fucking moves on) are equally ridiculous—unless the story actually puts in the emotional groundwork to support them, which it hasn’t.
Aya: she has never expressed interest in boys canonically, and her vulnerability + fear of change makes her extremely loyal (even pathologically so) to her first love.
Erika: she’s deeply entangled in a guilt-ridden, long-term emotional dependency. Her feelings aren’t shallow or fleeting. She stays single her whole pathetic life for a reason.

And yes, Koto is special. Aya literally said that in chapter 13. The story doesn’t just imply it—it flat-out tells us, multiple times, that Koto is special. That’s also why the “Aya falls for Erika” route that some Erika fans are hoping for is never going to happen, lol.

Save your energy for arguing that Aya broke up with Koto for reasons other than love. Because if you actually understand what love means, you’d know that true love includes the ability to let someone go for their own good—something Erika is incapable of now.

And seriously, what makes you think Koto kept choosing Aya over Erika—again and again—even though Erika is her childhood friend? Erika should honestly go find a rope and strangle herself for being a worse love interest than a damn 14 yo.
So just because she feels guilt, she is guilty? What has she done that is so bad? You still haven't said what it is.
Do you hear yourself? Are you seriously suggesting that Erika feels guilt out of nowhere? That she just randomly decides she’s not anyone's great friend(Chapter 8, Chapter 12)? That she thinks she has no right to confess her feelings (chapter 8, chapter 17) just because? She didn’t lash out at Aya for daring to accept Koto’s confession seven years ago (Chapter 17)? Really?
You blame Erika for Aya's disappearance? Seriously? Erika is not a paranormal creature. She does not have the power to do that. This is not that kinda story. Also, Koto was always like that. Even if Aya had disappeared by any other means, she still wouldn't have been able to let go of her crush.
A missing girl reappeared looking exactly the same as she did seven years ago, and you still insist this isn’t the kind of story where supernatural powers are involved? Lol.
 
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have you even ever been in a relationship?
Have you? Koto was actively chaining Aya down in that apartment.
Mental health struggles
I'll remind you that Aya is still a middle schooler and Koto is an adult now. Aya is not equipped to help Koto in any such ways.
I'm trying to show that both (Aya dates a boy& Erika fucking moves on) are equally ridiculous
That, by itself, is ridiculous. There's nothing to show that Aya was interested in Koto, beyond being friends, in the first place. Aya has always been detached from most things.
you still insist this isn’t the kind of story where supernatural powers are involved?
Of course, there are supernatural powers involved. But that supernatural power isn't going to belong to Erika unless you want this turning into a battle manga.

Also, just because Erika thinks she's done something bad doesn't mean that she actually has.
 
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Have you? Koto was actively chaining Aya down in that apartment.
I'll remind you that Aya is still a middle schooler and Koto is an adult now. Aya is not equipped to help Koto in any such ways.
Lol, I never said Koto was not on fault for trying to (emotionally) chain Aya down. I am not blinded by love as you Erika fans.
Let’s break this down clearly and precisely.

How was Koto chaining Aya emotionally?
1. Demands under the guise of love:
In an earlier scene, Koto says:
「バイトも劇もやめてって言ったら、言うとおりにしてくれるの?」
(If I tell you to quit your part-time job and theater troupe, will you do as I say?)
This isn’t love. This is control dressed up in dependency. She’s testing how far Aya will go for her — and it’s not because she believes it’s right, but because she needs to feel power over the situation after having lost it once.
2. Weaponizing the past:
Koto invokes the trauma of seven years ago:
「7年前も急にいなくなったんだから」
(After all, you suddenly vanished, seven years ago.)
That’s not just a statement. It’s an accusation. It’s: "You hurt me before. You owe me."
Aya, who already blames herself for that past, has no defense. Koto uses that old wound to ensure Aya stays.
3. Guilt:
Koto begged Aya to stay.
「お願い あやちゃん、そばにいてくれるだけでいいから」
(I beg you, Aya-chan.I just want you to be by my side.)
That’s not a neutral request — it’s a desperate plea that uses Aya’s empathy and guilt against her. Koto knows Aya is the kind of girl who can’t abandon someone in pain, especially not her.

So yes, emotionally — Koto was chaining Aya down. Not maliciously. Not out of cruelty.
But out of the unresolved trauma of loving someone who once disappeared

And that’s exactly why I said Erika is the one who literally caused all the tragedy between the main couple. Koto wasn’t like this seven years ago—middle schooler Koto was the bravest girl, able to confess twice even after her first confession was completely ignored. Unlike coward Erika, who only had twisted logic to blame Aya seven years ago.

Of course Koto and Aya still have things to work through if they want a happy ending. But as long as they love each other, they’ll have the motivation and courage to move forward. So whether Aya is a middle schooler now doesn’t really matter—Koto is willing to reflect and change for her (Chapter 17), which is something Erika could never achieve, no matter how hard she tries.

That, by itself, is ridiculous. There's nothing to show that Aya was interested in Koto, beyond being friends, in the first place. Aya has always been detached from most things.
Then why didn’t she accept any of her pursuers’ confessions? Why didn’t she accept Koto’s first confession? The story has already made it clear that Aya isn’t the type to date someone out of pity.

I do agree that Aya didn’t love Koto from the beginning and didn’t have romantic feelings for her when Koto first confessed. But Aya gradually became attracted to Koto—especially as she saw how cute and stubborn Koto was (Chapters 4, 14, and 15).

Of course, there are supernatural powers involved. But that supernatural power isn't going to belong to Erika unless you want this turning into a battle manga.
It could belong to Erika or be caused by her without turning into a battle manga, as long as the supernatural powers aren’t the focus of the story.
Also, just because Erika thinks she's done something bad doesn't mean that she actually has.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Whatever. I'm wondering how long you Erika fans can keep lying to yourself. It's really interesting
 
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I don’t agree with a lot of what Aquarius says, but I do want to reiterate one point since the topic came up a lot in these comments.

The boy seems less problematic than Erika and Koto for one reason, and one reason only. We know eff all about him! He’s appeared so little, none of us have even bothered to remember his name. All we really know about him is that he seems to be in the same effed up situation as Aya, and even then, it seems Aya’s been handling better than he has.

Meanwhile, we’ve seen some of the good and bad of Koto and Erika, and we’ve seen a lot of the ugly in Koto’s case. We’ve also got more than a few hints of the depths of Erika’s ugliness.

So yeah, let’s not compare the fully fleshed out main characters to what barely qualifies as a background character who might as well be nameless.
 

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