Sengoku Komachi Kuroutan: Noukou Giga - Vol. 14 Ch. 70 - Tradition.

[Panino]

More import, did Straweve gave up on Arte?
I was waiting for him but I guess I'll have to start reading the raws?

 

[NARESH4444]

More scumsucking mtl trolls to block:

And for this idiot who thinks the more they post the more correct they'll be...

It's not likely they're looking for any help at all, if they're dumping this shit here.

How and why is that an excuse? Oh right, because a small community of readers means less ko-fi donations.

Why would anybody want a talentless lazy sniper fuck like this in their group?

In other words, it's not coherent. If it isn't even done in English correctly, who know how many mistakes they've made in context of the original text.

Nobody is "gatekeeping" anything you moron. Being told to do a better job and not snipe, refusing to do so, and getting told to fuck off isn't gatekeeping. If you want respect, you earn it.

They're in the forum for the same reason all the other losers and yourself are in this post: to get a kick out of the response to their worthless troll translations.

Oh look,this dumb arse is back,who doesn't even understand what it means to be decent nor what it means to help people,just to whine like all the others and who thinks the effort of quoting them all makes him look better.

Your efforts are much better spent helping the man learn English better if you're willing to go this far,but you chose to bring your high horse here where it has no power.

Don't just tell the man to fish,teach the man how to fish,unless you yourself can't fish.

 

[NARESH4444]

I'm not the one putting it on my table.

He is.

And at the same time, he's discouraging the others to put the good stuff on it.

That manga was in my reading list for a reason: I liked it. But he's trying to take away the good stuff and replace it with his garbage.

And I'm supposed to moonwalk away and forget about it?

We can continue on the food analogy if you want. Because you don't have any taste buds left doesn't mean everyone should eat garbage.

And now, for you, to not be willing to eat garbage means being an elitist.

The fact you even treat something a degree below decent as being straight up garbage is proof that you are an elitist,simple as that.

No one cares about all the nonsense some people will say about scanlations and why it takes so long,by the end of the day,it is all excuses when literally anyone can have the thing translated in mere moments,and those who then put effort in afterwards can have it done in three days tops.

And for a monthly series that already has six chapters waiting to go,this man has uploaded two chapters with far,far less issues then one can find on this very site.

Considering your self-proclaimed ability to read Japanese,how 'bout you help the guy,then?

No?,then why are you complaining for the thing you haven't paid for,haven't helped in,nor provided direct solutions for that don't involve discouraging the man from improving?

Ah,because you're actually one of the many sea dogs in these seven seas,who thinks that they're on a high horse.

 

[NARESH4444]

More trolls to put on ignore. You guys are doing a great job of showing your asses on this series, keep it up! You'll be the coolest dudes in the discord for sure!

Oh and since I'm bored... in case anybody was wondering how much most of the people praising this trash contribute...



Whoa! What a total shock! Who could have guessed?!

Wow,look at all that time spent,going this far instead of,ya'know,solving the issue you have the with the quality of the translation that you didn't pay for nor helped in.

How much longer do you really think your inability to handle even the slightest error will take you?,because you're clearly far too hung up on this already.

Or is your mental disease far worse for even you to realise?

 

[maddery]

More import, did Straweve gave up on Arte?
I was waiting for him but I guess I'll have to start reading the raws?

Maybe because Arte has official translation, so they dropped it?

 

[dmitryf]

The fact you even treat something a degree below decent as being straight up garbage is proof that you are an elitist,simple as that.

No one cares about all the nonsense some people will say about scanlations and why it takes so long,by the end of the day,it is all excuses when literally anyone can have the thing translated in mere moments,and those who then put effort in afterwards can have it done in three days tops.

And for a monthly series that already has six chapters waiting to go,this man has uploaded two chapters with far,far less issues then one can find on this very site.

Considering your self-proclaimed ability to read Japanese,how 'bout you help the guy,then?

No?,then why are you complaining for the thing you haven't paid for,haven't helped in,nor provided direct solutions for that don't involve discouraging the man from improving?

Ah,because you're actually one of the many sea dogs in these seven seas,who thinks that they're on a high horse.

An easy direct solution that everyone suggested which is both actionable and doesn't involve quitting the hobby entirely: Learn english and jp to a bare minimum level (which wasn't met). Pretty simple actually. Truly it must take genius level intellects to come up with such a suggestion.

 

[Kirin-kun]

The fact you even treat something a degree below decent as being straight up garbage is proof that you are an elitist,simple as that.

No one cares about all the nonsense some people will say about scanlations and why it takes so long,by the end of the day,it is all excuses when literally anyone can have the thing translated in mere moments,and those who then put effort in afterwards can have it done in three days tops.

And for a monthly series that already has six chapters waiting to go,this man has uploaded two chapters with far,far less issues then one can find on this very site.

Considering your self-proclaimed ability to read Japanese,how 'bout you help the guy,then?

No?,then why are you complaining for the thing you haven't paid for,haven't helped in,nor provided direct solutions for that don't involve discouraging the man from improving?

Ah,because you're actually one of the many sea dogs in these seven seas,who thinks that they're on a high horse.

Your standards are so low that I don't even know where to begin. "a degree below decent" when talking about this pile of slop is being far too nice. Can you stop sucking the guy's dick? He's not going to pay you.

If wanting a series you like to be treated decently is to be an "elitist", then sure, I am. I don't care what you think.

"3 days tops"? I think you never did any scanlation in your life. People have lives you know. And if there are groups, it's because not everyone can do everything. So, the translator can do it in a few days, when they have the time, while the cleaner/redrawer do their job when they have the time, then the typesetter places the text, etc... Is that too hard for you to understand that producing quality needs time? But looks like you want to settle with junk and have your brain rot.

It's like saying to a mangaka, "why aren't your producing a chapter per week? With a tablet, you should be able to draw that in 3 days tops. It's just drawing. Mangaka are so lazy."

Scanlation's not a job, it's a hobby. But since you're showing the result of that hobby to the world, you can show some respect to the work and to the readers and do it right. Scanlation should be the product of love for the media or the genre. If you see such pile of slop and call it "scanlation" it just goes to show you don't care about it, whether you did it or you read it.

And why should I help the guy? They didn't ask or even search for help, they just spread their garbage all over the place, fishing for praises.

And I already explained numerous times why I complain, but it doesn't seem to register (or you elicit to ignore it because it doesn't fit your narrative) : because I like this series, so I want the scanlator to respect it and to read it in a good quality and not have to decipher barely legible English. Even if I can read it in Japanese doesn't mean I should ignore the butchering of a series I like going on on the side. And also, the original group who was doing it might just drop it because of this. And when the shit-producer will drop it too because they have to go back to school, what will you do? You'll have nothing to read, while I'll still have it. But I guess you don't give a shit about this manga.

I'm a scanlator, I learned my "craft" and wasn't a conceited moron like the guy here, with not even a basic command of English grammar. You never contributed yourself anything to scanlation and you're here to give lessons about what is good, what is not and what is "good enough", insulting the people who know better and are actually trying to improve the quality of the production.

I can definitely look down on you, because I know both languages better than you ever will and have translated for people like you hundreds of manga chapters. But I hope you're not reading anything I translate. I don't want readers like you. You'd just be dirtying the manga I love.

 

[WillLi]

i never claimed you said complaining isnt allowed. you're doing what you accuse me of. trolling, or just an idiot?

its human nature, einstein. bad thing happens, give negative response.

no one is obligated to give feedback or be productive in the comment section, anyone can say whatever they like, and feel whatever way they want. its called a comment section, not intellectual moonlight column. you write too much and say too little.

you may not like it, or call it stupid, but its REALLY not hard to understand. if anyone in this thread is stupid, its the people like you trying to facts-and-logic their way around the opinions of other random strangers on the internet, just arguing to argue.

suffice to say, It would be better for everyone if the TL commits to the hobby and makes improvements in future, or finds a new hobby. really not that complicated.

My guy it's called rhetorical questions, I'm not literally asking "Why do people do this" That should be easily apparent by the rest of my post. It's not that hard to grasp. I mean really I didn't even put a question mark so it wasn't even technically a question. I wasn't asking for an answer.

Also no, I'm not "doing what I accused you of" because firstly you replied to my post using the term "allowed". Which never popped up in my post, I am clarifying that I never said it. That is not me accusing you of anything, that is me telling you "What you're saying is not part of what I said". However this does now make it so that you are actually doing what you think I was accusing you of.

And you say I'm "arguing to argue" But my guy you responded to me first, to argue with me about me "arguing to argue"? Also why don't you take a real look at what happened. Who is actually denying people's opinions? All I've said is don't just insult it with no constructive criticism. There are people here literally saying to people that it's shit and if they like it they are scum and trolls.

And I'm not facts and arguing my way around anyone. All I've done is defend my stance and myself. You can go look to my post, only speaking to people who either talk about me, reply to me or said something directly against what I'm saying. At no point did I go trying to deny other people's opinions on the matter, just explained my own, and maybe made fun of some people occasionally along the way.

It's people like you who are the problem, getting involved in arguments and then immediately trying to pull a "I'm smarter" or "I'm morally better" card that are the actual problem. If people are arguing on the internet they have chosen to do so, let them do so. They can at any moment choose to stop replying, or even ignore someone's post. No one needs you to come in and play ref.

 

[WillLi]

An easy direct solution that everyone suggested which is both actionable and doesn't involve quitting the hobby entirely: Learn english and jp to a bare minimum level (which wasn't met). Pretty simple actually. Truly it must take genius level intellects to come up with such a suggestion.

Why does he gotta stop posting though until then? Wouldn't posting here lead to even more feed back he can get and use to improve? It's not like he's claiming that his English is great and ignoring actual advice. There is improvement between the two chapters.

 

[chiagioi1234]

Jesus Christ, look at those hater, must be jobless loser spreading hate have nothing better thing to do,I've seen worse translate from other manga,why so work up from this?

 

[Kirin-kun]

Jesus Christ, look at those hater, must be jobless loser spreading hate have nothing better thing to do,I've seen worse translate from other manga,why so work up from this?

Because this manga is good?

That guy could butcher some random isekai harem manga with slave catgirls and I wouldn't give a shit. More power to him and the readers with shit taste.

But when I see someone smearing something I like with shit, sorry, I feel angry.

That guy left a huge turd in the middle of my read list and is actively discouraging better people from doing it and I'm supposed to look the other way? Give him my blessing, hope he'll improve in some unforeseen future and forget the shit I stepped on? Nope, he can fuck off.

And because you've seen worse garbage, it makes it somehow acceptable to have garbage around?

But from what I see, you don't even speak English correctly, so you wouldn't be able to tell good English from bad.

So, you can fuck off too.

 

[Kirin-kun]

Why does he gotta stop posting though until then? Wouldn't posting here lead to even more feed back he can get and use to improve? It's not like he's claiming that his English is great and ignoring actual advice. There is improvement between the two chapters.

Instead of asking feedback here to random readers who don't even speak good English themselves most of the time and aren't actual scanlators, why not contact people willing to help him improve in friendly discord servers? Why is he insisting on doing it alone, when he knows himself he's bad? It's like those game companies that release games full of bugs because they're in a hurry to make money and hope the players will find the bugs for them.

And why don't you understand that from the point of view of a serious scanlator, this kind of subpar release and seeing people praising it is like poison?

To the people doing the effort to do it right, it feels like they're feeding pearls to swines.

You have the point of view of a reader that only has to do a bit of effort to decrypt the bad English and gloss over bad typesetting. Even if there are mistranslations and some meaning is lost, you don't really care.

I and others have the point of view of the craftsmen and we feel like it's insulting to our craft.

But you obviously refuse to consider our point of view as valid.

 

[Sparrowhawk]

re: this comment section, srsly

 

[Panino]

Maybe because Arte has official translation, so they dropped it?

I tried to follow it on Comikey, but it stopped for no reason, then resume and I missed and, and it stopped again. There's no consistency at all, better stick with my old buddy or maybe put more effort on learning japanese.

 

[jeezits]

re: this comment section, srsly

But don't worry if words are hard my dude, there's help: https://www.wikihow.com/Learn-English

 

[chiagioi1234]

Because this manga is good?

That guy could butcher some random isekai harem manga with slave catgirls and I wouldn't give a shit. More power to him and the readers with shit taste.

But when I see someone smearing something I like with shit, sorry, I feel angry.

That guy left a huge turd in the middle of my read list and is actively discouraging better people from doing it and I'm supposed to look the other way? Give him my blessing, hope he'll improve in some unforeseen future and forget the shit I stepped on? Nope, he can fuck off.

And because you've seen worse garbage, it makes it somehow acceptable to have garbage around?

But from what I see, you don't even speak English correctly, so you wouldn't be able to tell good English from bad.

So, you can fuck off too.

Oh~ boohoo Lmao like I fucking care it's good or not, it's free.
Want good translated? Pay for it or wait.
If major people can read and understand it,who fucking care, it's benefit for us. You can fuck off and pretend this wasn't exist,what so hard?

 

[Rockdrop]

An easy direct solution that everyone suggested which is both actionable and doesn't involve quitting the hobby entirely: Learn english and jp to a bare minimum level (which wasn't met). Pretty simple actually. Truly it must take genius level intellects to come up with such a suggestion.

Learn the language people, stop begging. It's easier than a click!

 

[WillLi]

Instead of asking feedback here to random readers who don't even speak good English themselves most of the time and aren't actual scanlators, why not contact people willing to help him improve in friendly discord servers? Why is he insisting on doing it alone, when he knows himself he's bad? It's like those game companies that release games full of bugs because they're in a hurry to make money and hope the players will find the bugs for them.

And why don't you understand that from the point of view of a serious scanlator, this kind of subpar release and seeing people praising it is like poison?

To the people doing the effort to do it right, it feels like they're feeding pearls to swines.

You have the point of view of a reader that only has to do a bit of effort to decrypt the bad English and gloss over bad typesetting. Even if there are mistranslations and some meaning is lost, you don't really care.

I and others have the point of view of the craftsmen and we feel like it's insulting to our craft.

But you obviously refuse to consider our point of view as valid.

See this is where you mess up. We as an audience do understand the "serious scanlator" sees it as poison. But the thing is, that's called elitism, and that is the actual poison for a community. Why don't you understand that you scanlators are not the only ones in the community. They aren't scanlating for you, they're scanlating for the readers, and a portion of the readers appreciate their work.

It would be another thing if this scanlator was being belligerent and not improving. But they are improving, so there is no reason to see this as 'poison' because said translator is using it to improve. They're not settling on lower quality and staying there. You are projecting that on them.

And if what this guy was actually doing was bad for the community Mangadex would've taken a stand against it long ago. This kinda thing has been happening longer than you've been scanlating, and it hasn't 'poisoned' the community yet.

And I refuse to consider your point of view valid? After literally just writing a post to minimize the point of view of the audience. You want to act like ignoring your point of view is wrong? You can't say that unless you consider the other side's point of view. Try to see the point of view of people who want to catch up, the people who want to see more scanlators show up, the view of the scanlator themselves. Even if we were invalidating your point of view, have you stopped to think about how many groups of people's PoV you invalidate? You literally said of someone that you don't want people like them in your audience. Just how arrogant and hypocritical can you be?

Also you say he's insisting on doing it alone, do you have any proof that someone actually offered to help him? And they were able to work out a scheduel to do so? Did you consider maybe they're doing it alone cause they haven't gotten help?

 

[Sparrowhawk]

But don't worry if words are hard my dude, there's help: https://www.wikihow.com/Learn-English

Someone’s upsetti spaghetti. I don’t have a horse in this race so please redirect your petulant outrage elsewhere, thanks. Xoxo

 

[Fireboy]

Oh~ boohoo Lmao like I fucking care it's good or not, it's free.
Want good translated? Pay for it or wait.
If major people can read and understand it,who fucking care, it's benefit for us. You can fuck off and pretend this wasn't exist,what so hard?

Spoken like a true ESL.