Tearmoon Teikoku Monogatari ~Dantoudai kara Hajimaru, Hime no Tensei Gyakuten Story~ - Vol. 8 Ch. 34

[morichiro]

Man short chapter are killing me
Thanks for the tl!

 

[CrimsonSix]

Page 6: I don't know, Narration. I think Sion would happily fight a bear or wolf to protect Mia.

 

[Laisy]

Sion is a monumental dick.
He even knew she was innocent and still did it in the first timeline. And proceeded to keep on doing it in future timelines

Spoiler: To add to this

The reason was because he was far too deep into his self-indulgent sense of justice, he refused to admit he was wrong. And he keeps repeating the same reasoning every time he invades- ahem, liberates neighbouring countries and executes people. That also includes even his own brother and Keithwood.

 

[Laisy]

But sadly in that timeline, it was already too late by the time Ludwig met Mia. Their reputation has tanked, nobles scurrying away to save themselves, epidemic, famine... not even an isekai protagonist would be able to save the empire.

I think it was even noted by the original timeline Ludwig that the famine situation was actually slowly improving, but the plague and the revolution that followed ruin everything. Seriously, Mia's diary is that important.

 

[le3]

the thing to add to this that makes Sion, Tiona and Rafina's choice to have Mia killed is made even worse considering later bits revealed in the LN.

Spoiler: LN volume 3+ (can't remember exact volume)

It is revealed that with everything that was going on with the Empire's decline and the revolution just about to begin, Mia was desperate to figure out anything to get food to the people, even going so far as to throw her dignity as the Princess of the Empire away to beg a merchant that was infamous for screwing people with the prices for food. It's part of why Ludwig towards the end of the original timeline held so much respect and loyalty for Mia, he saw that even with all her faults and issues with her personality, she legitimately cared about the people and was putting in the effort that she needed to once she finally understood the situation.

Ludwig sees that once Mia knows the situation, she will put her effort into things, which is something we see is true even in the current timeline. While most of what she does is for herself, she is still putting all her effort into things.

Holy fuck now I'm drown in tears. Poor past Mia

 

[Grimmycoffee]

I won't go as far as saying it would've been useless, but it's not like she doesn't have someone warning her all the time (Ludwig).



And they don't seem to be that close in the past life anyway. Calling them classmates are already pretty generous, considering as far as they concern, she's a bully.

 

[zokoi19]

wow, reading all the spoilers make me want to see more Sion and Tiona and Rafina bashing, especially in the previous timeline.

anw, thanks for the chapter!!!

 

[Kynnath]

The reason she was killed in the previous timeline wasn't because of any crimes she commited, but simply because in a revolution against a feudal system, everyone that could come back later with a claim gets executed. She was a princess but never really in a position of authority. She asked for things and they were given to her, but she wasn't in charge of anything.

Which makes Sion's actions even weirder, because generally feudal lords don't like that kind of revolution next door, lest their own subjects get the same idea. For him to lead it is insane. Also, we now know the revolution was manufactured to some extent, so they actually were tools of someone with nefarious purposes while thinking they were righteous.

 

[GridLite]

hope he always feels alone even if he has many people comforting him

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hope at one point he needs help, he ask mc for one so mc could ignore her intentionally

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hope he gets to the point where he needs help desperately and mc just watches him writhe in hopelessness

 

[Reydrago]

Also, we now know the revolution was manufactured to some extent, so they actually were tools of someone with nefarious purposes while thinking they were righteous.

also the novel kinda revealed that the founding father of the tearmoon empire is kinda a asshole beyond the graveyard even Mia think that's stupid

 

[Dogwelder]

Yep... it is why I am glad he

Spoiler

was also miserable and alone and forever haunted by Ludwig's anger and disgust toward him to his death bed

this brings me solace.

 

[Leuix]

the thing to add to this that makes Sion, Tiona and Rafina's choice to have Mia killed is made even worse considering later bits revealed in the LN.

Spoiler: LN volume 3+ (can't remember exact volume)

It is revealed that with everything that was going on with the Empire's decline and the revolution just about to begin, Mia was desperate to figure out anything to get food to the people, even going so far as to throw her dignity as the Princess of the Empire away to beg a merchant that was infamous for screwing people with the prices for food. It's part of why Ludwig towards the end of the original timeline held so much respect and loyalty for Mia, he saw that even with all her faults and issues with her personality, she legitimately cared about the people and was putting in the effort that she needed to once she finally understood the situation.

Ludwig sees that once Mia knows the situation, she will put her effort into things, which is something we see is true even in the current timeline. While most of what she does is for herself, she is still putting all her effort into things.

I was so moved at Ludwig's master last lesson to Ludwig.

Best boy will always be Ludwig.

 

[fight2live]

another chapter, another narrator's "Wrong" to make me laugh

 

[Wizardrone]

The reason she was killed in the previous timeline wasn't because of any crimes she commited, but simply because in a revolution against a feudal system, everyone that could come back later with a claim gets executed. She was a princess but never really in a position of authority. She asked for things and they were given to her, but she wasn't in charge of anything.

Which makes Sion's actions even weirder, because generally feudal lords don't like that kind of revolution next door, lest their own subjects get the same idea. For him to lead it is insane. Also, we now know the revolution was manufactured to some extent, so they actually were tools of someone with nefarious purposes while thinking they were righteous.

I disagree, if you recall the chapter 31 page 11 and 12, in this case before to the renmo revolution

Spoiler

there at least four people speaking about failing to create a mess in the tearmoon empire but since it failed they targeted another kingdom to fabricate a "revolution", so they are either a foreign agitator intellent group or a bunch of kafkaian people wanting to bring ruin to nations, and it seems they are the main reason ;previously; princess mia and tearmoon empire to fall regardless of previous positive results.

and yes Prince Sion suffer from a variant of hero syndrome in which if ones is not a hero or in the right then one is just a murderer/criminal. Like giving thump up to guillotine chan to mia or anyone without a proper Trial or investigation

 

[FlorianGran]

Even though I already saw this in the anime I'm somehow liking it a bit better here. Maybe it's the art? The anime wasn't very good looking towards the end

 

[EpicMatt]

The reason she was killed in the previous timeline wasn't because of any crimes she commited, but simply because in a revolution against a feudal system, everyone that could come back later with a claim gets executed. She was a princess but never really in a position of authority. She asked for things and they were given to her, but she wasn't in charge of anything.

Which makes Sion's actions even weirder, because generally feudal lords don't like that kind of revolution next door, lest their own subjects get the same idea. For him to lead it is insane. Also, we now know the revolution was manufactured to some extent, so they actually were tools of someone with nefarious purposes while thinking they were righteous.

there's a lot with why he was involved, and it's stemmed from how Sunkland's mindset it, which was kind of touched in this chapter but is a bit more explored in the LN.

Spoiler: potential spoilers volume 3+ stuff of the LN

The people of Sunkland have the mindset that they are the only ones with the proper right to rule, and that anyone that is ruled by Sunkland are better off that way. They often take advantage of situations like what happened in Tearmoon and what is going on in Remno to get on the good side of the people and get rid of other countries they see as issues and thorns to their own rule.

This fact has also lead to the poor sense of justice that many of the rulers of Sunkland have hold, and Sion takes it quite a bit further shown in the future of the previous timeline and some of the altered ones. He sees that anything that goes against his sense of justice should be punished to an equal degree of the crime, regardless of circumstances. So to him, Mia's execution was equal to the suffering she had indirectly caused her people, regardless of anything she had done to turn things around.

The manga kind of skimmed it a bit, and the anime didn't show it at all, but the way the timeline was going right before the diary disappeared, the way things lead to her being executed were less so Sion's total will, but more that it was the only way to calm the revolution army, as they were the ones pushing for her execution the most. Due to Sion's narrow world view, he only sees the easiest and quick ways to solving things, without much care for the fallout in the future, like his strained relationship with Tiona in the previous timeline, or him being haunted by the fact he killed Mia, someone that didn't fully deserve it.

 

[EpicMatt]

Even though I already saw this in the anime I'm somehow liking it a bit better here. Maybe it's the art? The anime wasn't very good looking towards the end

The anime was more heavily based on the manga in the first half, while the second half is more based on the LN, so they had to come up with how things looked and played out. As an adaption of the LN for that stuff, it was fine, but it also resulted in a lot of things being skimmed or missed.

 

[jyeusu]

wow, reading all the spoilers make me want to see more Sion and Tiona and Rafina bashing, especially in the previous timeline.

anw, thanks for the chapter!!!

Spoiler

Big WN spoilers for this but Sion basically becomes a diehard practitioner of his sense of justice, leading to a rift between Sion and Tiona as well; they don't get together or even talk afterwards and both end up really lonely IIRC. I don't think Rafina is mentioned in the previous timeline post-execution, but after the Mia Guillotine arc, a new timeline sprouts where we learn Rafina has become a belligerent overzealous crusader tyrant aimed at eradicating the true antagonists of the series.

 

[EpicMatt]

Spoiler

Big WN spoilers for this but Sion basically becomes a diehard practitioner of his sense of justice, leading to a rift between Sion and Tiona as well; they don't get together or even talk afterwards and both end up really lonely IIRC. I don't think Rafina is mentioned in the previous timeline post-execution, but after the Mia Guillotine arc, a new timeline sprouts where we learn Rafina has become a belligerent overzealous crusader tyrant aimed at eradicating the true antagonists of the series.

that stuff is also in the LN so not really just WN spoilers anymore

 

[Umbrum]

Well they are a bunch of kids that barely know a thing about the world, it's normal that they also couldn't see further from their distaste for someone of inferior morality. They are just like she is/was, they simply use different values to measure someone against themselves.