Tensei Shite High Elf ni Narimashitaga, Slow Life wa 120-nen de Akimashita - Ch. 38

[finalm]

And he himself said that they wouldn't know enough and would likely come after him, like I said, and they did so.

Where? The only thing he expected them not to know is the real extent of his power i.e. they knew he was dangerous, so they'd send their best, but they had no idea just how very dangerous - if they did, they likely would give up altogether. This turned out to be true, they came and they failed. He also mentioned that were they able to capture him, they'd either kill him, or make him manufacture the weapons, so it's obvious he expected them to know pretty much all about his previous visit to the country.

You've not thought this through at all. They probably do know he was a friend of his, so what? How does that stop the possibility that the enemy nation also knows that this was his friend and they asked/bribed him to try and gather information on the magic tool's inventor and other espionage, or something similar?

They have no idea what his true motives for coming and trying to dig up info on the guy are, but it's not worth taking the chance.

If they know about his work with Kaushman and the fact that he wandered around the world for decades with potentially ultra-secret knowledge, then this all becomes moot. What's the point of him coming to work to their detriment now? He could have taken away the advantage that justifies all this conspiracy decades ago, by sharing his knowlede with their enemies. They know for a fact that he didn't, so whatever his goals are now, they are not in direct opposition to the country. Besides, if they were really worried about him potentially working for the enemy, then it makes far more sense to first contact him and see what he's after. That opens up possibilities, like offering a more expedient way to get him what he wants in exchange for his help or at the very least, an opportunity to get at his handlers. Even if they were successful at killing him, that thread is severed.

 

[finalm]

Why would they know that? This isn't the modern day with instant access to near infinite info and countries sharing info on request. They might have records of him there from him being there and his bro talking about the elf that helped him develop his tools but just knowing his life story is unrealistic.

No one's talking about his life story, but they'd know he's a very long lived race, his name (not like the dude travels incognito or tires to hide anything about himself) and his association with the guy responsible for creating the weapons that all this fuss is about in the first place. That seems like enough to connect the dots for me. Are you asking how they'd cross-reference this quickly? The truth is, we don't know how much time actually passed here. Almost certainly less than a day, but that could be many hours and one would assume a sensitive topic like that would warrant having a lot of pretinent info on hand, especially if it concerns someone who was co-responsible for the project but disappeared before anyone got to him.

 

[wahyurockajn]

man its been ages since the last i read the ln

Spoiler

so i probably got it wrong but from what i remember kaushman take a lot of disciple later on but none can do the same thing he does since for creating magic tools you need to do both the magic and the crafting but none of the disciple manage to do both so he created a work system that used this while he spent his entire life to created those tools that only few being created since it rather hard to replicated and the only info they have about aesir is that he was one of the creator beside him which is why they want to kill him before he going to spread the knowhow about the magic tools and the funny thing is because aesir manage to snag some of the tools they later on got a hard time and if i remember right the kingdom is straight up destroyed and later on the research about magic tools itself is forbidden

oh since the ln is already ended it kinda funny that

Spoiler

aesir in the end of his life decided to become a rather strange spirit himself while he is a part of earth spirit family he really isn't a normal earth spirit since he decided to become a sword spirit (yup he become the very first sword spirit in that world) what more he is now going adventure while guiding his wielder who is a half elf woman that barely have any spirit power at all oh and lastly it was hilarious that at first he choose an ore that is perfect material to be made of his sword body but end up never being pick since it was just so deep in the unknown that he end up forcing himself to call an elf to dig him over and hand him to the dwarf :v

 

[gundulgondrong]

damn the feds snuffed him out of existence and took his bag. F kaushmann

 

[Sheza]

He was a random elf who was friends with the guy many decades ago, and at best they have paper records and some hearsay from the guy. He also by his own admission didn't expose quite a few things while he was there. What in the fuck are you expecting, exactly?


There's a limit to the amount they could possibly know, that they have even been given the chance to know, none of which includes a reason to initiate diplomacy instead of force. "They were friends" isn't a good reason.

Considering they're an advanced country's military they sure are sloppy at gathering information regarding a person of interest

 

[nielspeterdejong]

man its been ages since the last i read the ln

Spoiler

so i probably got it wrong but from what i remember kaushman take a lot of disciple later on but none can do the same thing he does since for creating magic tools you need to do both the magic and the crafting but none of the disciple manage to do both so he created a work system that used this while he spent his entire life to created those tools that only few being created since it rather hard to replicated and the only info they have about aesir is that he was one of the creator beside him which is why they want to kill him before he going to spread the knowhow about the magic tools and the funny thing is because aesir manage to snag some of the tools they later on got a hard time and if i remember right the kingdom is straight up destroyed and later on the research about magic tools itself is forbidden

oh since the ln is already ended it kinda funny that

Spoiler

aesir in the end of his life decided to become a rather strange spirit himself while he is a part of earth spirit family he really isn't a normal earth spirit since he decided to become a sword spirit (yup he become the very first sword spirit in that world) what more he is now going adventure while guiding his wielder who is a half elf woman that barely have any spirit power at all oh and lastly it was hilarious that at first he choose an ore that is perfect material to be made of his sword body but end up never being pick since it was just so deep in the unknown that he end up forcing himself to call an elf to dig him over and hand him to the dwarf :v

Okay, so if the country gets spoiler, what happens to the family of the girl that just now received Aesir's necklace? Or is the country simply under new management?

 

[Amplify]

Where? The only thing he expected them not to know is the real extent of his power i.e. they knew he was dangerous, so they'd send their best, but they had no idea just how very dangerous - if they did, they likely would give up altogether. This turned out to be true, they came and they failed. He also mentioned that were they able to capture him, they'd either kill him, or make him manufacture the weapons, so it's obvious he expected them to know pretty much all about his previous visit to the country.


If they know about his work with Kaushman and the fact that he wandered around the world for decades with potentially ultra-secret knowledge, then this all becomes moot. What's the point of him coming to work to their detriment now? He could have taken away the advantage that justifies all this conspiracy decades ago, by sharing his knowlede with their enemies. They know for a fact that he didn't, so whatever his goals are now, they are not in direct opposition to the country. Besides, if they were really worried about him potentially working for the enemy, then it makes far more sense to first contact him and see what he's after. That opens up possibilities, like offering a more expedient way to get him what he wants in exchange for his help or at the very least, an opportunity to get at his handlers. Even if they were successful at killing him, that thread is severed.

I think this is the last time I'll bother trying to talk sense to you, but this all boils down to two points:
1: Kaushman continued to do a lot of development after the two went separate ways. Our MC here knows bits sure, but Kaushman presumably went on to do decades of research and practical application on the subject far beyond what little they did in their brief time together in his youth. You're acting like the MC's knowledge on magical tools is equal to all of that, that his value is equal to Kaushman in their eyes.
2: Loyalties change over time, and keeping track of the MC's journey outside of the country is basically impossible. This isn't a world with computers and surveillance cameras and the internet etc, there's a limit to what they can do. Even if they could possibly have a reasonable idea of his entire journey, it is completely impossible to truly know what a person's motives are in their heart. Unless there's a REALLY REALLY good reason to take another action, their best bet is simply to quickly and quietly eliminate the major threat to national security that's sitting on their doorstep.

 

[Amplify]

Considering they're an advanced country's military they sure are sloppy at gathering information regarding a person of interest

What ability can any country have to read a person's true motives? Aesir's mere existence is effectively a threat to them.

 

[finalm]

I think this is the last time I'll bother trying to talk sense to you, but this all boils down to two points:
1: Kaushman continued to do a lot of development after the two went separate ways. Our MC here knows bits sure, but Kaushman presumably went on to do decades of research and practical application on the subject far beyond what little they did in their brief time together in his youth. You're acting like the MC's knowledge on magical tools is equal to all of that, that his value is equal to Kaushman in their eyes.
2: Loyalties change over time, and keeping track of the MC's journey outside of the country is basically impossible. This isn't a world with computers and surveillance cameras and the internet etc, there's a limit to what they can do. Even if they could possibly have a reasonable idea of his entire journey, it is completely impossible to truly know what a person's motives are in their heart. Unless there's a REALLY REALLY good reason to take another action, their best bet is simply to quickly and quietly eliminate the major threat to national security that's sitting on their doorstep.

1. Dude, it's the country that's acting like that, not me. It's undeniable, that in their eyes what he has is far too valuable. Otherwise, why even bother sending powerful assasins after a dangerous target like that, using the weapons in question, no less? You don't think they do that with everyone who happens to be asking some unconfortable questions, do you?

2. I already explained why his entire life history does not matter here, but for some reason you insist that to even consider a somewhat conciliatory course of action (you know, like intelligence operatives are supposed to), one needs to basically be the guy's trusted confidant and even that might not cut it. What the hell, man?

Think for a second: why would they want him dead? Because he has secret knowledge and might deliver it to their enemies, right? Then why hasn't he, in all those decades? Probably because it was never his intention, right? So he hasn't been working with their enemies for longer than most are alive, and yet now he joins up? Why not start with helping them develop the weapons then? Even if they are early versions, he still saw at least one to it's completion and that alone should be invaluable. Instead, he came here to ask about his old collaborator. What for? To get knowledge on more advanced models? Would you risk the only guy that could make the early models for that kind of mission, when those prototypes not even done yet?

 

[Sheza]

What ability can any country have to read a person's true motives? Aesir's mere existence is effectively a threat to them.

Im talking about how their military cant even do a background check on who kaushman developed magic tools with. Pretty sure its not some secret that kaushman developed it with aesir which is what im pointing out since you keep saying that their government cant possibly know who aesir is, which in that case means their military is sloppy if they dont even know aesir's connection with kaushman.
Its like when the FBI run background check on terrorists, they trace the person via their connection, family, last known location, etc. Why cant the government do the same for kaushman? if they did they'd know that kaushman spent his time developing magic tools with an elf that will ultimately lead to them identifying said elf as aesir.

 

[wahyurockajn]

Okay, so if the country gets spoiler, what happens to the family of the girl that just now received Aesir's necklace? Or is the country simply under new management?

nothing change since

Spoiler

the battle got too intense that if i remember right they basically taxing its people hard so the people revolt and destroy the kingdom from within which is why magic tool study is forbidden now and they join with the other kingdom becoming a new one

 

[Amplify]

Im talking about how their military cant even do a background check on who kaushman developed magic tools with. Pretty sure its not some secret that kaushman developed it with aesir which is what im pointing out since you keep saying that their government cant possibly know who aesir is, which in that case means their military is sloppy if they dont even know aesir's connection with kaushman.
Its like when the FBI run background check on terrorists, they trace the person via their connection, family, last known location, etc. Why cant the government do the same for kaushman? if they did they'd know that kaushman spent his time developing magic tools with an elf that will ultimately lead to them identifying said elf as aesir.

You're misunderstanding me, either deliberately or through sheer inability to read and comprehend what I wrote.

They know who he is as a person or at least the physical basics in that he's an elf who worked with him for a while as a friend, they can't possibly understand his MOTIVES OR TRUE INTENTIONS however and that's what matters because his existence is too much of a liability to take any chances.

 

[Sheza]

You're misunderstanding me, either deliberately or through sheer inability to read and comprehend what I wrote.

They know who he is as a person or at least the physical basics in that he's an elf who worked with him for a while as a friend, they can't possibly understand his MOTIVES OR TRUE INTENTIONS however and that's what matters because his existence is too much of a liability to take any chances.

So you admit that they know he worked with kaushman in developing magic tools right? Doesnt that still make them idiots for using force first instead of diplomacy since as you said they dont know aesir's MOTIVES OR TRUE INTENTIONS so why not try diplomacy first to see if that works?

 

[Amplify]

So you admit that they know he worked with kaushman in developing magic tools right? Doesnt that still make them idiots for using force first instead of diplomacy since as you said they dont know aesir's MOTIVES OR TRUE INTENTIONS so why not try diplomacy first to see if that works?

They do, and no. This is like trying to talk to a particularly stupid wall, but to repeat myself:
Aesir was briefly friends with Kaushman and they formed the prototype of the magic tools that Kaushman went on to spend the rest of his life working on. The knowledge Aesir has is of no value TO them as they already know all of it, but it is dangerous if the enemy nation gets it as they could potentially use that knowledge to make their own magic tools.

The best possible thing they could get out of diplomacy which is sealing his lips permanently, can be also obtained in much simpler fashion by killing him.

 

[ninjasaiyan777]

I'm guessing it has to be on a level of a nuke or something.
Or at the very least, it's just the weapons are too good where they don't want the secret to be out.
What easier way to keep things secret than just kill anyone who knows.

After all, three men can keep a secret if two of them are dead.

Kaushman's passed, the Government wants to be the last one standing, so that leaves that elf that was helping Kaushman that one time.

 

[RiceScum1]

man this is so depressing to read, author make us get comfortable with a character only to kill em in a few chapter later

 

[nielspeterdejong]

man this is so depressing to read, author make us get comfortable with a character only to kill em in a few chapter later

Honestly, with how long ago that chapter has been released it honestly feels fitting. Remember, he is a high elf, who is immortal. From his perspective humans are supposed to quickly grow old and die in the blink of an eye. I honestly think that that is what makes this all so interesting!

 

[xibuwo]

Greetings XuN Scans, I truly appreciate the hard work and effort your team has been putting into this manga. However, I wanted to kindly point out that on page 10 (excluding the Scan's info page), there appears to be a missing text that was accidentally omitted on the lower left:
僕がこの町に来たことを軍はすぐに知る
(The military will soon find out that I’m in this town.)

 

[AinzSama-]

oh no i've caught up

 

[StLL]

I do wonder if they locked him up and have him slave away or he committed suicide to avoid creating WMDs for war..