The Day I Decided to Make My Cheeky Gyaru Sister Understand in My Own Way - Ch. 4 - The Day My Gal Sister Stepped Out

[Kllick]

@BuyVelomobiles
Something really nice is going on the authors twitter. It seems like after "someone" made people get their attention about what really happen offscreen he finally started to speak about it. You should take your time and check it out yourself, perhaps if you also really angry about it leave some meaningful comments (not like me lol) but here is what he said:

"I learned that if you can't understand Japanese, it becomes difficult to understand." (Probably to me where I said to another user with showing pictures what really happend offscreen."

"From people in other countries that have been illegally uploaded, We continue to be attacked... I'm basically ignoring it, but The destructive power was so great that I lost my nerve, I wanted to share... If you don't know that Egaki is such a shitty positive person that he'll die, I deleted it thinking that it would just be an exposure."

"To gal sister of pixiv, I am being harassed by adding NTR tags without permission, but I took a screenshot of it, People are going wild and saying things like, `This is proof that this work is NTR!'' and `This is also the case with Fanbox and illegally uploaded works! This author is incompetent! He's brain dead!'' and it's very troubling. Strictly speaking, it's not NTR. Egaki, who loves NTR, says this."

"I carefully explained the intentions of the project to the DM attacker. It seems like the translation function isn't working well, so I can't understand... I was in trouble, so I'll ignore you. already. It doesn't get across. I've given up. Sorry. foreign people."

"Something that was deleted due to violation of Fanbo's rules was uploaded illegally, The URL and image have been spread and it's out of control. I can't stop sweating" -> lol

"I asked him to give me a new title, but since the title has the potential to be an erotic manga, I decided to use it as is. I wanted to share it."

"From people in other countries that have been illegally uploaded, We continue to be attacked... I'm basically ignoring it, but The destructive power was so great that I lost my nerve, I wanted to share... If you don't know that Egaki is such a shitty positive person that he'll die, I deleted it thinking that it would just be an exposure. sorry"

Edit: Basically this fucker says its not tEcHnIcAlLy NTR lol.

To be pedantic, yeah technically what happened isn't NTR (Netorare). Netorare is when someone's lover got stolen. For NTR to happen, someone have to be the heroine's lover and her brother isn't her lover. So far she's shown to be single, so whether she's been ganged or not, NTR can't happen because she's single.

This's the point author was trying to talk. And she's actually right on this point for defending her work as not NTR.

 

[Kllick]

The whole focus is about MC "correcting" the Sister, sexually to become "normal" That was her goal and still is, but the blood related stuff with the unconsensual stuff (sleep sex) got retconed. She showed me the messaged between her and the pixiv staff. I know, there are tons of incest with the TAG! + rape AND sleep sex. Dont know why it was against her...

Anyway, MC -> the brother is not technically in love with her YET, but its obvious its going that way, let alone the sister loved MC for a very long time but you know -> Tsundere. Not my words -> Her own words. It will/should play out as MC getting sick of her "annoying" behaviour where he will start to "correct" her, aka the title of this trash manga, which will involve him being more rapey -> but toned down because Pixiv/Fanbox lol ("But Gangbang and NTR is ok? Yeah the weird japanse lol.)

The reason why its NTR because she gets fucked by others, and if you saw the leaked stuff its hardcore NTR with her enjoying it with the whole heart eyes. It gets even worse with this chapter where she sucks him off + jizzles down his jizz. Her next fanbox will show it fully. I guess you see where and why these situations are still NTR, despite it not being technically NTR.

Hahaha so that's it. Schrodinger NTR lmao

It's not NTR, yet. People freaked out because they found out her keikaku (tln: keikaku means plan).

Maybe author planned heroine and her brother to become lover once she stopped getting gang banged? So if they only started to be lover once she stopped having sex with strangers, it's not NTR lol. Well, technically it is.

 

[DaBoySwag77]

To be pedantic, yeah technically what happened isn't NTR (Netorare). Netorare is when someone's lover got stolen. For NTR to happen, someone have to be the heroine's lover and her brother isn't her lover. So far she's shown to be single, so whether she's been ganged or not, NTR can't happen because she's single.

This's the point author was trying to talk. And she's actually right on this point for defending her work as not NTR.

See, and thats why people say its still NTR because she got "stolen" in that fanbox scene. I mean since its a erotica, the sexual stuff is here the main point. The only main love interest getting her holes split rosted + brain fucked out (heart eyes), her enjoying it like in your typical nhentai doujinshi female protag, her going the next day to the same fucker and sucking his dick again + slurping it down, is where you already crossed the NTR line.

The thing as you said, its not technically, hence the japanse artist came up with new terms like "BSS". Here, its a bit specific as the MC dosent love her romanticly YET (well we dont really know so far) but the thing is she fucks around. Which for a romance story is a very bad thing. Not that I say you cant do such stuff, but as you saw the comments are in the majortiy hating it. Because what happend offscreen -> the fanbox stuff is meant to piss people off, aka NTR... I mean she even said that in her stream today lol.

Depending how bad the backlash is she will either make more or not. But its still a lost case because of what happend. But I think how pissed off she got she will add more, mostly because she is a female and they dont look at NTR like we do, hence her saying its not NTR, or in her own words "well, its not really NTR, right ? Really NTR would be much worse." So if even the same author who tried to defend it, acknowledge it as NTR but its "light" lol, then I think the ongoing debate if its NTR or not is done.

 

[BuyVelomobiles]

See, and thats why people say its still NTR because she got "stolen" in that fanbox scene. I mean since its a erotica, the sexual stuff is here the main point. The only main love interest getting her holes split rosted + brain fucked out (heart eyes), her enjoying it like in your typical nhentai doujinshi female protag, her going the next day to the same fucker and sucking his dick again + slurping it down, is where you already crossed the NTR line.

The thing as you said, its not technically, hence the japanse artist came up with new terms like "BSS". Here, its a bit specific as the MC dosent love her romanticly YET (well we dont really know so far) but the thing is she fucks around. Which for a romance story is a very bad thing. Not that I say you cant do such stuff, but as you saw the comments are in the majortiy hating it. Because what happend offscreen -> the fanbox stuff is meant to piss people off, aka NTR... I mean she even said that in her stream today lol.

Depending how bad the backlash is she will either make more or not. But its still a lost case because of what happend. But I think how pissed off she got she will add more, mostly because she is a female and they dont look at NTR like we do, hence her saying its not NTR, or in her own words "well, its not really NTR, right ? Really NTR would be much worse." So if even the same author who tried to defend it, acknowledge it as NTR but its "light" lol, then I think the ongoing debate if its NTR or not is done.

Well I have to agree it's not any shade of NTR, not even BSS. MC (As far as we know), isn't actually in love with her, in a relationship with her, possessive of her (After the retcon), or even apparently interested in her as anything other than a sister. If that ever changes, I'll call it NTR.

Still icky, though. Cake eating is not a good look on anyone. Either the wholesome storyline is the "what if" alternative plotline or the porn one is the hypothetical. She can't both be doing sex stuff, willingly on top of it all, and also "reforming". But I'm just repeating myself at this point.

 

[Kllick]

See, and thats why people say its still NTR because she got "stolen" in that fanbox scene. I mean since its a erotica, the sexual stuff is here the main point. The only main love interest getting her holes split rosted + brain fucked out (heart eyes), her enjoying it like in your typical nhentai doujinshi female protag, her going the next day to the same fucker and sucking his dick again + slurping it down, is where you already crossed the NTR line.

The thing as you said, its not technically, hence the japanse artist came up with new terms like "BSS". Here, its a bit specific as the MC dosent love her romanticly YET (well we dont really know so far) but the thing is she fucks around. Which for a romance story is a very bad thing. Not that I say you cant do such stuff, but as you saw the comments are in the majortiy hating it. Because what happend offscreen -> the fanbox stuff is meant to piss people off, aka NTR... I mean she even said that in her stream today lol.

Depending how bad the backlash is she will either make more or not. But its still a lost case because of what happend. But I think how pissed off she got she will add more, mostly because she is a female and they dont look at NTR like we do, hence her saying its not NTR, or in her own words "well, its not really NTR, right ? Really NTR would be much worse." So if even the same author who tried to defend it, acknowledge it as NTR but its "light" lol, then I think the ongoing debate if its NTR or not is done.

I think author going to double down. Based on her planned premise "I can fix her" alone, the more fucked up the sister is, the more impactful her brother trying to save her is. Even if there's no sex with strangers scene, author still have to make the sister a fucked up character one way or another.

Now this shitshow happened and it could add more motivation for author to make the sister more fucked up.

 

[DaBoySwag77]

Well I have to agree it's not any shade of NTR, not even BSS. MC (As far as we know), isn't actually in love with her, in a relationship with her, possessive of her (After the retcon), or even apparently interested in her as anything other than a sister. If that ever changes, I'll call it NTR.

Still icky, though. Cake eating is not a good look on anyone. Either the wholesome storyline is the "what if" alternative plotline or the porn one is the hypothetical. She can't both be doing sex stuff, willingly on top of it all, and also "reforming". But I'm just repeating myself at this point.

Here is the thing why people call it NTR -> Because she fucked others and people dont like it. In japanese this whole "pure" thing is a real thing, yet even today they are more accepting towards NTR as their mentally is really...lets say questionable.
But as you mentioned, its hidden behind "I can safe her!" while also portraying her as a victim, so some people can overlook some shady stuff. However:

This is a story about MC getting into love + seggs with her. When you show people she fucks around + has the worst possible sex for the viewer as her enjoying it (because it feels as she betrayes you) it has a negative effect. If she was just fucking around and not being shown im pretty sure people wouldnt had reacted like that. -> Hence even the author called it "NTR but its light"(lol this woman) AND also hid it behind her Fanbox as she knows despite its not really been NTR -> People will still see it as NTR. The problem is we dont have a real definition of THAT. So people go with the term which is near, which is, as you guessed it, NTR. Like I said, with the popularity with this disgusting fetish and the drama it creates, artist started to specify as to gather to specific people. The problem here is also that the author dosent sees it as NTR, mostly because of her gender.

Many artsit/authors who did such stuff in the past did what you said. Creating a alternative. The best example was this one Harem manga (which was also drawn from a female). Hajirau Kimi ga Mitainda.
She announcet what she wanted to do (NTR) but it would be a: A hentai. B: A completty different alternative WHAT IF. C: Made it clear in her twitter post AND in the hentai its not cannon. Yet despite she braged she made good money of that (as japanse love NTR), she got still a angry iron eyes from her community since she kinda ruined the teacher but also was planning to do the same with the FMC. Since the FMC hentai never happend shows even there people are angry with it.

In this manga it was so easy to change: Just make a "what if" title on that Fanbox post and no one would be angry. She knows it but she didnt bothered about it as with the talk with her she pretty much knows what NTR is and that it gets seen as NTR as much, but as I mentioned many times -> she dosent look at it like that, or lets say its "light" NTR (her words) so it should be fine. But when fans starts to add the tag on her pixiv or call her out on her BS she gets angry lol.

I think author going to double down. Based on her planned premise "I can fix her" alone, the more fucked up the sister is, the more impactful her brother trying to save her is. Even if there's no sex with strangers scene, author still have to make the sister a fucked up character one way or another.

Now this shitshow happened and it could add more motivation for author to make the sister more fucked up.

Yeah. As I said, the fact that she will upload what happend in ch.4 offscreen soon, that she dosent sees it as NTR, that she got angry at "foreigners" not liking her magnum opus makes it pretty obvious more is to come.

But she is not that dumb either. She knows its not popular with her own fans either. Hence when she promoted the offscreen scene on her twitter she made replies on that post unaviable, and with this drama today she got more eyes on her, mostly people who didnt know what happend offscreen as they only saw what we see on Mangadex. Hence she needed to make fast a live stream calming others down why, what and whatever needed to be addresed.
So this could also mean she would stop from here, but im not sure.

Whatever it will, since it happend anyway this manga is Trash and will be. Im all here to shit on her face and inform the people who didnt know what happend offscreen.

 

[willz8]

I think you two are going way overboard tbh, especially in engaging with the author trying to make her day worse etc. I think at the end of the day it's kinda black and white; if you don't like the series then don't read it. Simple. If I don't like something I don't go out of my way to make sure everyone and their dog knows that I have a problem with it, I just ignore it and move on.

 

[NamNathan1993]

Used goods confirmed? Abandon the ship

What ship?

 

[BuyVelomobiles]

I think you two are going way overboard tbh, especially in engaging with the author trying to make her day worse etc. I think at the end of the day it's kinda black and white; if you don't like the series then don't read it. Simple. If I don't like something I don't go out of my way to make sure everyone and their dog knows that I have a problem with it, I just ignore it and move on.

Other people probably should also have a problem with it, since this is fanbox bait that tries to be wholesome and precisely the opposite of wholesome. Not to mention the idiots trying to act like she's (FMC) a victim in all of this. Or what, am I not allowed to talk about things I don't like?

 

[willz8]

Other people probably should also have a problem with it, since this is fanbox bait that tries to be wholesome and precisely the opposite of wholesome. Not to mention the idiots trying to act like she's (FMC) a victim in all of this. Or what, am I not allowed to talk about things I don't like?

I'm not really a fan of the paywall bait content either but like I said if I see that it's content that I don't like then just drop it and move on, what's the point of making like 50 comments on here and then also attacking the author? There's understandable outrage and then there's just being a dick, I personally think you're being a dick.

 

[DaBoySwag77]

I think you two are going way overboard tbh, especially in engaging with the author trying to make her day worse etc. I think at the end of the day it's kinda black and white; if you don't like the series then don't read it. Simple. If I don't like something I don't go out of my way to make sure everyone and their dog knows that I have a problem with it, I just ignore it and move on.

Normally I would agree with you here. And I mean it honestly as I never did this before. Even if it was "just" this NTR I would just said she is trash, stamped her as a typical japanse who is into this kink and be done and never come back. So you are right.

However: It started as a scam/lie, expanded to insults from her being racists and sexists and ends up as doubling down on everything she said. If you read the previous posts you should get the context and if you still think like that, im all ok with it. I will go even further and say at least myself Im not being professional here. But can you blame me/us ?

Personally I would be done with this manga if people knew what really happend, which they dont. My intention is to inform the other people what really happend and what type of manga this is. But as it turns out during this day and her stream, the majority dosent know, even the japanese. Hence through todays interaction people got more curious and she tried to damage control it, instead of being upfront about it.

I personally dont care what the people in japanse think about it, its their beef and this is Mangadex.. But I think if these NTR chapters got posted here on this manga, not seperate, as awhole as to show what it really is, I would be fine and done with it for good as its then up to the person individual to either keep reading after it or not. Not like how it is, people think its "safe" despite being lied/scammed on.

 

[slyss]

Normally I would agree with you here. And I mean it honestly as I never did this before. Even if it was "just" this NTR I would just said she is trash, stamped her as a typical japanse who is into this kink and be done and never come back. So you are right.

However: It started as a scam/lie, expanded to insults from her being racists and sexists and ends up as doubling down on everything she said. If you read the previous posts you should get the context and if you still think like that, im all ok with it. I will go even further and say at least myself Im not being professional here. But can you blame me/us ?

Personally I would be done with this manga if people knew what really happend, which they dont. My intention is to inform the other people what really happend and what type of manga this is. But as it turns out during this day and her stream, the majority dosent know, even the japanese. Hence through todays interaction people got more curious and she tried to damage control it, instead of being upfront about it.

I personally dont care what the people in japanse think about it, its their beef and this is Mangadex.. But I think if these NTR chapters got posted here on this manga, not seperate, as awhole as to show what it really is, I would be fine and done with it for good as its then up to the person individual to either keep reading after it or not. Not like how it is, people think its "safe" despite being lied/scammed on.

No, no, no. Don't try to paint this out as some kind of "savior act," as if you're fighting the big bad of the world just because "she insulted us foreigners, and I need to educate the masses about the evil NTR hidden behind the shadows."

You're nothing more than an insecure schizo who got really mentally fucked by this trashy ass manga, then went to bitch at the artist, got mad when called out, and then proceed to become even more of a schizo. (Which funny enough, proves her remarks right)

Most of us engage in discussions and arguments here because, well, that's what a forum is for, and it's fun to do so. But ultimately, we don't take this that seriously, which you clearly do.

 

[DaBoySwag77]

No, no, no. Don't try to paint this out as some kind of "savior act," as if you're fighting the big bad of the world just because "she insulted us foreigners, and I need to educate the masses about the evil NTR hidden behind the shadows."

You're nothing more than an insecure schizo who got really mentally fucked by this trashy ass manga, then went to bitch at the artist, got mad when called out, and then proceed to become even more of a schizo. (Which funny enough, proves her remarks right)

Most of us engage in discussions and arguments here because, well, that's what a forum is for, and it's fun to do so. But ultimately, we don't take this that seriously, which you clearly do.

I never said about it being a savior act, you did and if you somehow come to this conclusion its up to you. If you read it clearly what I said and understood what I wrote is that I even myself know Im not not behaving proper and I explained this too... Yet you cant ignore what I, or the others had mentioned about recently, nor cant you ignore what happend today. If this still goes against your moral behaviour be my guest and call my names I dont really care im not sorry. And as you said, its a forum. If you think giving context to a guy who was curious to memes, which ended into a shit storm from her side (again you would know it IF you read the previous posts) to being her a trash human, well thats also on you and not me.

If you continued reading -> If these would be posted here, the full version of it and not the uncompleted ones, which I explained why they and why I have my beef this manga, I would be done with it for good. Perhaps YOU dont feel it like this, im ok with it nor I want to force others. But you also saw im not here in the minority... as the conversation expanded about her actions also starts to being talked about on reddit and on ther twitter feed aswell.

 

[CDoom]

You literally said "My intention is to inform the other people what really happend and what type of manga this is." like you're doing everyone a service. If you know you're an asshole for attacking a person over something you don't like, then own up to it and don't justify it. You're free to dislike something and engage in conversation about that, don't attack someone over it, let alone try to justify being a part of "majority"

 

[slyss]

You literally said "My intention is to inform the other people what really happend and what type of manga this is." like you're doing everyone a service. If you know you're an asshole for attacking a person over something you don't like, then own up to it and don't justify it. You're free to dislike something and engage in conversation about that, don't attack someone over it, let alone try to justify being a part of "majority"

You've got to give it to him. The way he's trying to excuse himself and paint this image, as if he's doing a service with these incredible mental gymnastics, such as "The majority dislike this stuff" (When harassing the artist doesn't cross most of our minds) and "I know I'm doing bad..."—Like he's aware yet continues to do so because, again, he has got to inform the masses of the evil NTR and the evil lying artist who insulted us foreigners and is scamming people, like he's doing it on behalf of others, is absolutely hilarious.

He's nothing more than an asshole schizo acting purely because this manga triggered him, regardless of whatever reasons he pulls or how he tries to excuse himself.

 

[DaBoySwag77]

You literally said "My intention is to inform the other people what really happend and what type of manga this is." like you're doing everyone a service. If you know you're an asshole for attacking a person over something you don't like, then own up to it and don't justify it. You're free to dislike something and engage in conversation about that, don't attack someone over it, let alone try to justify being a part of "majority"

slyss​

Oh no, I think I made it very clear what my intentions were and still are: "I would just said she is trash, stamped her as a typical japanse who is into this kink and be done and never come back." and "But I think if these NTR chapters got posted here on this manga, not seperate, as a whole as to show what it really is, I would be fine and done with it for good as its then up to the person individual to either keep reading after it or not."

Hint: Yes, I really think what I say...what a shocker. If you think I try to hide behind something else I must disapoint you as its just a beef about a scummy artist doing scummy things which made me angry. Not that easy to understand right...

I think my previous post made it also clear: I want them to being posted here as that people got informed. Not that I do this because im a savior or what slyss said lol, im not their mom nor does I get a kick out of it. But because I know people who dont know what happend offscreen will get angry, which will make the manhwa drop even further. If they should go out of their way to harass her its up to them, again, im not their mom not I get a kick out of it as I also said I never did it before not did I even now... Mind you it wasnt done as "im going out of my way to ruin her life" (how is this even possible) but happen because she started to delete comments + pictures I send to another english speaking guy who questioned about it. From there the shit storm started. If you read the prior comments you would understand what happend in detail. I reacted because of it that. With a Action follows a Reaction... If you think this is a asshole move, fine, I wont agrue with it. On the same I could say her actions were the same, even if you would ignore what she said on her stream. Kinda funny how its only a one way streat huh. So who is here in the wrong now. Someone who started it or that one who continued posting memes because of it...

If you think THIS counts as attacking someone then im sorry to tell you this is calling someone on their Bullshit. Also mind you these were related towards her work, this manga, NOT herself. But im aware I could just went away and let her lie to the other people as this would be more proper, as I mentioned before I did not and on purpose and I know it. If you think its is a asshole move I wont disagree. Again, I never said im some sort of savior and its done with my own intention. I think my previous posts like: "...nor I want to force others..." made this clear.

That I have a personal beef with her is true tho, like I said I never hide that and my post made it clear. That wasnt always the case but only now.

About the majority stuff: I mean you check the comments right ? You saw the drop in score, perhaps checked other sites where its being talked/posted about ? If I was in the minority I wouldnt been even here as I mentioned before: "I would just said she is trash, stamped her as a typical japanse who is into this kink and be done and never come back." As I did with many other mangas/manhwas/games etc, as there is no point doing it when the majority still likes it.

Yet I also could say people who think this counts "asshole schizo" are delusional as calling someone out on their BS are spinelss cucks or dont got angry as the others so their own judgement is the right now...

 

[InfernoIce7630]

For anyone wandering what happened in the fanbox version here's link to the raws

Link: https://e-hentai.org/g/2766270/7a5115985f/

 

[DaBoySwag77]

For anyone wandering what happened in the fanbox version here's link to the raws

Link: https://e-hentai.org/g/2766270/7a5115985f/

Some one ratted you out lol:

 

[BuyVelomobiles]

We

Some one ratted you out lol:

That was fast. I picked a bad time to do groceries.

 

[DaBoySwag77]

We

That was fast. I picked a bad time to do groceries.

I wonder how fast this could happen tho, like only 30 minutes. Either the author herself (which is very unlikely) or someone requested it to get removed. But then again (E)x-hentai takes some time until that happens, mostly one day except they get a warning of fuckers like Fakku.

But not all hopes are lost:
A special someone is already translating it. He said sadly he cant post it here as its a Copy right issue. (Tho I see many mangas from twitter and their fanbox being posted here too). He allowed me to post it everywhere I want except here but also not crediting him. If im late, someone will post it here to probably as its very short.