The Day I Decided to Make My Cheeky Gyaru Sister Understand in My Own Way - Ch. 4 - The Day My Gal Sister Stepped Out

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I wonder how fast this could happen tho, like only 30 minutes. Either the author herself (which is very unlikely) or someone requested it to get removed. But then again (E)x-hentai takes some time until that happens, mostly one day except they get a warning of fuckers like Fakku.

But not all hopes are lost:
A special someone is already translating it. He said sadly he cant post it here as its a Copy right issue. (Tho I see many mangas from twitter and their fanbox being posted here too). He allowed me to post it everywhere I want except here but also not crediting him. If im late, someone will post it here to probably as its very short.
I'm surprised it's not uploaded on N-hentai. If it's uploaded on NH, you can share the nuclear code only. Just like how people share Emergence by Shindol with code only 177013
 
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Well I have to agree it's not any shade of NTR, not even BSS. MC (As far as we know), isn't actually in love with her, in a relationship with her, possessive of her (After the retcon), or even apparently interested in her as anything other than a sister. If that ever changes, I'll call it NTR.

Still icky, though. Cake eating is not a good look on anyone. Either the wholesome storyline is the "what if" alternative plotline or the porn one is the hypothetical. She can't both be doing sex stuff, willingly on top of it all, and also "reforming". But I'm just repeating myself at this point.
What's BSS anyway?
 
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Oh no, I think I made it very clear what my intentions were and still are: "I would just said she is trash, stamped her as a typical japanse who is into this kink and be done and never come back." and "But I think if these NTR chapters got posted here on this manga, not seperate, as a whole as to show what it really is, I would be fine and done with it for good as its then up to the person individual to either keep reading after it or not."

Hint: Yes, I really think what I say...what a shocker. If you think I try to hide behind something else I must disapoint you as its just a beef about a scummy artist doing scummy things which made me angry. Not that easy to understand right...

I think my previous post made it also clear: I want them to being posted here as that people got informed. Not that I do this because im a savior or what slyss said lol, im not their mom nor does I get a kick out of it. But because I know people who dont know what happend offscreen will get angry, which will make the manhwa drop even further. If they should go out of their way to harass her its up to them, again, im not their mom not I get a kick out of it as I also said I never did it before not did I even now... Mind you it wasnt done as "im going out of my way to ruin her life" (how is this even possible) but happen because she started to delete comments + pictures I send to another english speaking guy who questioned about it. From there the shit storm started. If you read the prior comments you would understand what happend in detail. I reacted because of it that. With a Action follows a Reaction... If you think this is a asshole move, fine, I wont agrue with it. On the same I could say her actions were the same, even if you would ignore what she said on her stream. Kinda funny how its only a one way streat huh. So who is here in the wrong now. Someone who started it or that one who continued posting memes because of it...

If you think THIS counts as attacking someone then im sorry to tell you this is calling someone on their Bullshit. Also mind you these were related towards her work, this manga, NOT herself. But im aware I could just went away and let her lie to the other people as this would be more proper, as I mentioned before I did not and on purpose and I know it. If you think its is a asshole move I wont disagree. Again, I never said im some sort of savior and its done with my own intention. I think my previous posts like: "...nor I want to force others..." made this clear.

That I have a personal beef with her is true tho, like I said I never hide that and my post made it clear. That wasnt always the case but only now.

About the majority stuff: I mean you check the comments right ? You saw the drop in score, perhaps checked other sites where its being talked/posted about ? If I was in the minority I wouldnt been even here as I mentioned before: "I would just said she is trash, stamped her as a typical japanse who is into this kink and be done and never come back." As I did with many other mangas/manhwas/games etc, as there is no point doing it when the majority still likes it.

Yet I also could say
people who think this counts "asshole schizo" are delusional as calling someone out on their BS are spinelss cucks or dont got angry as the others so their own judgement is the right now...
You can write a literal essay, but you're still justifying being an asshole. You're trying to "inform" others, you didn't want to "let her lie to the other people", as you have literally said in this post so I am using your words here. You are trying to share information, an attempt to do a service to other people. Trying to make your actions seem "right." And being part of the majority is also not a valid justification.

If you want to "inform" people, I don't care. But you're using this a justification for instigation and theft of paid work. If the author was a dick to you, that's because you were an asshole to her first. That doesn't justify what she did or said, but it ALSO doesn't make you LESS of an asshole.

And hey, shocker, artists need to make a living. Feeling like you're being scammed isn't further justification for sharing paid works. I'm not anti-piracy, but I'm not dumb enough to justify it either. Fanbox bait may be annoying as fuck but if they get paid, good on them. Someone out there's buying it.
 
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What's BSS anyway?
BSS - Is translated to "I liked her first". Which mostly are for NTR stories/hentai where MC and the FMC are not in a relationship, mostly a one sided crush or didnt proposed to her yet, and also gets stolen by the douche/ugly bastard.
Most common tropes for these are moms, sisters, childhood friends or crushes of the protagonists.
 
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But you're using this a justification for instigation and theft of paid work.
Maybe we don't bring that up on a website dedicated to taking works from Japanese creators then uploading them to the internet for free.
A special someone is already translating it. He said sadly he cant post it here as its a Copy right issue.
If that were a concern, almost nothing would be posted here. But she is particularly sensitive about it, so I still understand the caution.
 
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You can write a literal essay, but you're still justifying being an asshole. You're trying to "inform" others, you didn't want to "let her lie to the other people", as you have literally said in this post so I am using your words here. You are trying to share information, an attempt to do a service to other people. Trying to make your actions seem "right." And being part of the majority is also not a valid justification.

If you want to do "inform" people, I don't care. But you're using this a justification for instigation and theft of paid work. If the author was a dick to you, that's because you were an asshole to her first. That doesn't justify what she did or said, but it ALSO doesn't make you LESS of an asshole.

And hey, shocker, artists need to make a living. Feeling like you're being scammed isn't further justification for sharing paid works. I'm not anti-piracy, but I'm not dumb enough to justify it either. Fanbox bait may be annoying as fuck but if they get paid, good on them. Someone out there's buying it.
I made key points bold with colors. Not much else to explain honestly. If you want brevity in future convos, might come off less decisive and probably more condescending as context was needed. Accusations were unfounded, lacked proof or any understanding.

Lazy to read -> fine, getting also getting corrected on that -> I will point that out too im not biased on that.

When I pointed out the lie and wants the rest to be informed, it aligns with my personal interests. Not like I already said that huhg? It's not evil; it's a common interest. If being labeled as such is a consequence of it, I can handle it. I prefer confronting issues it than tiptoeing around the issue.

This platform aggregates leaked and translated manga/manhwa, including content that usually requires payment. If you're taking a moral stance, apply it consistently across all creators. As I've stated before, once the work is leaked to the public eye, my involvement ends. -> I also explained why. I have personal issues with her yes, but I'm not THAT personally affected to the extent of launching attacks. There are more significant matters to address or vent about for myself.

I understand everyone wants to get paid for their work and I respect that. However when an artist pulls something like she did, especially involving NTR, it will anger me as I also explained why. In those cases my moral stance on pirated content will change, as it does for many others. I'm sure you've never faced a situation where you'd act differently since you seem perfect right ?

Also a side note: It may be against your world view, but if peole are on your side and you are in the majority, you tend to do stuff you normally wouldnt... Welcome to the real world.
 
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I'm surprised it's not uploaded on N-hentai. If it's uploaded on NH, you can share the nuclear code only. Just like how people share Emergence by Shindol with code only 177013
Im aware, but I dont know how or who uploads to N-hentai despite myself using it on a daily basis lol. If it should be leaked with the fear it could be tracked or removed -> hitomi.la is a pretty good contentor. I think once you upload there even shitters like Fakku cant harm you.

(E)x-hentai is mostly that one big site which as most of japanse artists work posted + updated, more then hitomi. But as I mentioned, once someone threatens them with legal fees, they will remove it.
 
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I made key points bold with colors. Not much else to explain honestly. If you want brevity in future convos, might come off less decisive and probably more condescending as context was needed. Accusations were unfounded, lacked proof or any understanding.

Lazy to read -> fine, getting also getting corrected on that -> I will point that out too im not biased on that.

When I pointed out the lie and wants the rest to be informed, it aligns with my personal interests. Not like I already said that huhg? It's not evil; it's a common interest. If being labeled as such is a consequence of it, I can handle it. I prefer confronting issues it than tiptoeing around the issue.

This platform aggregates leaked and translated manga/manhwa, including content that usually requires payment. If you're taking a moral stance, apply it consistently across all creators. As I've stated before, once the work is leaked to the public eye, my involvement ends. -> I also explained why. I have personal issues with her yes, but I'm not THAT personally affected to the extent of launching attacks. There are more significant matters to address or vent about for myself.

I understand everyone wants to get paid for their work and I respect that. However when an artist pulls something like she did, especially involving NTR, it will anger me as I also explained why. In those cases my moral stance on pirated content will change, as it does for many others. I'm sure you've never faced a situation where you'd act differently since you seem perfect right ?

Also a side note: It may be against your world view, but if peole are on your side and you are in the majority, you tend to do stuff you normally wouldnt... Welcome to the real world.
You act like I didn't read your post, I did, that's why I quoted your own words. You say that you're doing this out of your self-interest and you're not trying to condone your actions, but your own words are trying to downplay spamming and harassing someone and make yourself look better (you're on the side of the majority, you want to inform people who don't know, both points I've quoted). From the actual definition of justify on dictionary.com:
to show (an act, claim, statement, etc.) to be just or right

You can say you have no vested interest your crusade, but your own words say otherwise.

And I said, I'm not anti-piracy. Obviously I'm using this site, as are many others. I use other aggregate sites too. But I also said I'm not justifying it. It's still illegal. You, on the other hand, are taking a holier-than-thou attitude to make it seem like you're doing something good. If you're a thief, own it. I'm calling out your hypocrisy.

if peole are on your side and you are in the majority, you tend to do stuff you normally wouldnt... Welcome to the real world.
What is this even trying to say? Are you saying that you're not normally the kind of person that would spam an artist and/or share their works? Or are you trying to say that having the majority on your side is why you should do this? Neither works as an argument, and if you are not, as you say, trying to defend your actions, why even bring this up?
 
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where's the supposed gangbang on fanbox? Can someone link it to me?

Edit: A kind soul sent them to me straight! dm me if you want it as well.
2nd edit: 3 participants have received the prize! Step right up and you'll get it as well. Only for a LIMITED TIME
3rd edit: don't just react to my comment, dm or reply else I wouldn't know if you want it.
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You act like I didn't read your post, I did, that's why I quoted your own words. You say that you're doing this out of your self-interest and you're not trying to condone your actions, but your own words are trying to downplay spamming and harassing someone and make yourself look better (you're on the side of the majority, you want to inform people who don't know, both points I've quoted). From the actual definition of justify on dictionary.com:
to show (an act, claim, statement, etc.) to be just or right

You can say you have no vested interest your crusade, but your own words say otherwise.

And I said, I'm not anti-piracy. Obviously I'm using this site, as are many others. I use other aggregate sites too. But I also said I'm not justifying it. It's still illegal. You, on the other hand, are taking a holier-than-thou attitude to make it seem like you're doing something good. If you're a thief, own it. I'm calling out your hypocrisy.


What is this even trying to say? Are you saying that you're not normally the kind of person that would spam an artist and/or share their works? Or are you trying to say that having the majority on your side is why you should do this? Neither works as an argument, and if you are not, as you say, trying to defend your actions, why even bring this up?
You highlighted one part to make your point, portraying me as a self portrayed savior to hide my intentions, but that wasn't my intention, as it also being accused from the other dude despite already myself saying otherwise:

"I think my previous post made it also clear: ... . Not that I do this because im a savior or what@ slyss said lol,... . But because I know people who dont know what happend offscreen will get angry, which will make the manhwa drop even further."

You accuse me of harassment, prove it.
You accuse me of spamming, prove it.
You accuse me of that I pretend to be somesort of saviour, prove it.
In fact I want you reply to start with this examples first.

You see it your way and I explained to you multiple times, 4x times.
If she hadn't deleted it you would have seen my posts there to emphasize my point. But wait, it IS here. Check it out - the very last one -> #37

Explain how this is considered spam or harassment and I want to hear it exactly, point for point and not again with your repeated nonsense. The memes I posted highlighted double standards in mangas, particularly concerning NTR. They were edited lightly and addressed the common excuse of "they are not in a relationship yet. excuse/cope" Once again, the post was not read, yet assumptions were made by you again: Read it here #198

(I will make it even easier for you as it seems I have to hand hold eveything for you.)
  • She says its still not NTR. I continue by saying what there is left ? MC crying in the corner why watching a cuck show ? She says im overracting. I say her female logic is dumb. Gets blocked, get more attigates to post more memes.
  • Post more memes, she starts to get more and more freaked out, calls her friends and fans for support, they try to calm her down by saying we are what she said about us.
(Wait, does her calling dumb, or because of her "female logic" its harasment to you :question:)
Do you know how many I posted? Just 4. Calling it spam is baseless. As for "harassment", it was a critique of NTR in her manga. Criticizing isn't harassment. Who are you trying to bullshit here?

If you think I'm portraying myself as a saint, its your own made up believe. I made it clear that I'm not. People labeling me as an asshole without knowing the context is not my concern, and I've already clarified my motives and what happend. Calling out people on their actions doesn't make me a boogeyman either. I have my agenda yes, as I've made them obvious here:

..."which will make the manhwa drop even further." But also ..."I have a personal beef with her is true tho, like I said I never hide that and my post made it clear."... and in a newer post, probably you somehow overlooked otherwise you wouldnt repeat yourself: "I have personal issues with her yes, but I'm not THAT personally affected to the extent of launching attacks."

I never claimed I'm not a 'thief' or that I'm different due to my personal situation towards her. Accusations are being thrown around without specific points. There's no hypocrisy, as I've clearly stated I'll look the other way based on my relationship with the person involved, as everyone does :facepalm: . This isn't hypocrisy; it's a general rule. No one is better regarding this, so come down from your moral high horse. If you don't see it that way and want to continue in your bubble, it's a 'you' problem, not mine.

About the last argument. Yes, I meant that if you're in the majority, you tend to express and act based on what you believe is right, just as it happens globally as you have the support. It can be positive or negative. If you think I used this as an excuse for 'spamming' or 'harassing,' you're mistaken, as that didnt even happend. Why I said this ? ->:

"...when an artist pulls something like she did, especially involving NTR, it will anger me..." but more specific towards this which I already posted again and again "... I would just said she is trash, stamped her as a typical japanse who is into this kink and be done and never come back."
 
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Some one ratted you out lol:
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Damn wtf lol. Well if anyone want the fanbox version just dm me and I'll share it.
 
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You highlighted one part to make your point, portraying me as a self portrayed savior to hide my intentions, but that wasn't my intention, as it also being accused from the other dude despite already myself saying otherwise:

"I think my previous post made it also clear: ... . Not that I do this because im a savior or what@ slyss said lol,... . But because I know people who dont know what happend offscreen will get angry, which will make the manhwa drop even further."

You accuse me of harassment, prove it.
You accuse me of spamming, prove it.
You accuse me of that I pretend to be somesort of saviour, prove it.
In fact I want you reply to start with this examples first.

You see it your way and I explained to you multiple times, 4x times.
If she hadn't deleted it you would have seen my posts there to emphasize my point. But wait, it IS here. Check it out - the very last one -> #37

Explain how this is considered spam or harassment and I want to hear it exactly, point for point and not again with your repeated nonsense. The memes I posted highlighted double standards in mangas, particularly concerning NTR. They were edited lightly and addressed the common excuse of "they are not in a relationship yet. excuse/cope" Once again, the post was not read, yet assumptions were made by you again: Read it here #198

(I will make it even easier for you as it seems I have to hand hold eveything for you.)
  • She says its still not NTR. I continue by saying what there is left ? MC crying in the corner why watching a cuck show ? She says im overracting. I say her female logic is dumb. Gets blocked, get more attigates to post more memes.
  • Post more memes, she starts to get more and more freaked out, calls her friends and fans for support, they try to calm her down by saying we are what she said about us.
(Wait, does her calling dumb, or because of her "female logic" its harasment to you :question:)
Do you know how many I posted? Just 4. Calling it spam is baseless. As for "harassment", it was a critique of NTR in her manga. Criticizing isn't harassment. Who are you trying to bullshit here?

If you think I'm portraying myself as a saint, its your own made up believe. I made it clear that I'm not. People labeling me as an asshole without knowing the context is not my concern, and I've already clarified my motives and what happend. Calling out people on their actions doesn't make me a boogeyman either. I have my agenda yes, as I've made them obvious here:

..."which will make the manhwa drop even further." But also ..."I have a personal beef with her is true tho, like I said I never hide that and my post made it clear."... and in a newer post, probably you somehow overlooked otherwise you wouldnt repeat yourself: "I have personal issues with her yes, but I'm not THAT personally affected to the extent of launching attacks."

I never claimed I'm not a 'thief' or that I'm different due to my personal situation towards her. Accusations are being thrown around without specific points. There's no hypocrisy, as I've clearly stated I'll look the other way based on my relationship with the person involved, as everyone does :facepalm: . This isn't hypocrisy; it's a general rule. No one is better regarding this, so come down from your moral high horse. If you don't see it that way and want to continue in your bubble, it's a 'you' problem, not mine.

About the last argument. Yes, I meant that if you're in the majority, you tend to express and act based on what you believe is right, just as it happens globally as you have the support. It can be positive or negative. If you think I used this as an excuse for 'spamming' or 'harassing,' you're mistaken, as that didnt even happend. Why I said this ? ->:

"...when an artist pulls something like she did, especially involving NTR, it will anger me..." but more specific towards this which I already posted again and again "... I would just said she is trash, stamped her as a typical japanse who is into this kink and be done and never come back."
I'm going to try my best to keep this brief as possible cause this is getting too long.
You accuse me of harassment, prove it.
You accuse me of spamming, prove it.
You accuse me of that I pretend to be somesort of saviour, prove it.
In fact I want you reply to start with this examples first.

A few pages/posts ago, you posted, and I quote:
I asked why, she didnt replied. I spammed memes about the Sister getting gangbanged.
Spamming memes? Sure, sounds harmless. But you also go on to post about how the author freaks out and gets angry, and you continue. That is harassment. That should be as clear and cut as I can get. If you don't agree, then there's nothing else I can say.

(Wait, does her calling dumb, or because of her "female logic" its harasment to you :question:)
Look, I know the internet isn't any place for someone with thin skin. But if you can't connect Insulting someone and spamming them -> Harassment then your definition of harassment is different from mine.

I wasn't the one calling out your savior complex. If that bothers you so much, maybe you need to look deep inside yourself? I am calling you for out the above and for contradicting yourself.



If you think I'm portraying myself as a saint, its your own made up believe. I made it clear that I'm not.
Yes, you've repeatedly said that. And I've acknowledged it and brought it up. But you are trying to make yourself look better despite saying you don't care. This is contradictory and I started this by calling that out.



I never claimed I'm not a 'thief' or that I'm different due to my personal situation towards her. Accusations are being thrown around without specific points. There's no hypocrisy, as I've clearly stated I'll look the other way based on my relationship with the person involved, as everyone does :facepalm: . This isn't hypocrisy; it's a general rule. No one is better regarding this, so come down from your moral high horse. If you don't see it that way and want to continue in your bubble, it's a 'you' problem, not mine.
First, I'll say that you're right, you never said you're not a thief. That's my mistake. I should be using words you've actually used, as you've repeated so many times very clearly. So, again, you're right. I'm sorry.

My point, as I was trying to make, is that regardless of whatever your stance on piracy actually is, is that putting piracy itself on a high horse because of your personal motivation is stupid. Piracy is piracy. It doesn't matter if you feel justified about it. It doesn't matter if it's a "general rule". It doesn't matter if you how you engage in it. Which, as I've stated, I do. I'm not about to try to stop you or any one else from sharing, that's a fool's errand. So moral high horse? Sure if that's how you wanna see it. If I pirate something, I'm not going to say it's better because I'm, as an example, pirating a game from a billion dollar corporation I hate so they deserve it. I'm just going to pirate it and shut up.



I'm not going to bother addressing the majority point.



"...when an artist pulls something like she did, especially involving NTR, it will anger me..." but more specific towards this which I already posted again and again "... I would just said she is trash, stamped her as a typical japanse who is into this kink and be done and never come back."
And yet you and I are still here. Look, I don't care about you and you don't care about me. I don't care if you're angry about the manga. I don't care if you hate NTR. I'm only here because the art is good and I want to see the girl hopefully become happy. I was content to watch this trainwreck of a comment section/forum because it was funny. But you posting about spamming and instigating her freak out is why I'm posting.

I'll give you credit though, you acknowledged you're an asshole. If it was just that, I would've let this die posts ago. But you were also posting about how, and this is hopefully the last time I'll quote this, you wanted to "inform" others and don't want to "let her lie to the other people" as a defense for your actions, even if you don't realize that it is. There's a reason I'm being repetitive. You're being contradictory. But I'll give you the benefit of the doubt, maybe you don't even realize you're defending your actions, or that it can be interpreted as such.
 
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All good, i see what you mean and where you coming from.
You should know the context as mentioned above in "If I should sum it up." Some events happened, but werent necessary to write them all down.

- Memes, as mentioned earlier, involved 4 specific "babushka(s) with reactions to NTR. One set was "Me when I see
wholesome" VS "Me when I see NTR" akin to the "Disappointed Black Guy" meme. If this is "triggering" let me know :haa:

- "Posting more memes" was followed after "spamming" them, which together were 4. 2 after the delete, 2 after the block in a whole time span of like what, 30 minutes ? This occurred in response to my first deleted comment with Picture of what happend which the dude was asking about NTR. While the original post of her seems to been deleted, I saw others still being posted or not even removed YET, although they're not mine. One could argue I initiated it because of my initial post or because she deleted my first post. Im fine with both here.

-No, as in the "memes" the wording "freaked out" refers to her quick reaction to calm people down about the Fanbox version, prompting the live-voice-only stream. Her "freaking out" was giggling, making fun of others + explaining the whole situation, Mr. White Knight.

-Let's consider where the definition of harassment lies in this context, as the term "mine" might differ in interpretation due to the lack of context, sorry. Acknowledging that the internet is not for the faint-hearted and considering that Japanese reactions may be more anxious compared to the West, I understand that.

Thing is as I mentioned I was in the entire live-voice stream with her and it got "heated" but not in the way you think it was, so keep your pants right as for now. She insisted it's not NTR, I disagreed, suggesting whats only missing was the MC watching a cuck show as this IS the text book definition of NTR here. Gangbang with those hearteyes but also that she goes the next day, to the SAME guy to suck it dick off. She getting upset :lul:. She said I was overreacting; I criticized her logic, called her female logic is dumb, resulting in being blocked. Frustrated I posted the 2 memes, ups I mean "spammed"...
I guess my fault as I wasnt be decent and didnt say something like her female mind is flawed right ? 🙄
Not that I want to expand THIS topic her, but as I mentioned, she was very Sexist (and racist) at this point. The "heated" moment was exactly about this. IF anyone think I reacted wrongly and this counts as harassment, then why no one speaks up when dumb shit like HERSELF saying wont been criticized at.

- I'm fine with not discussing piracy. We seem to agree but there might be a misunderstanding. You mentioned about a billion-dollar corporation and stealing their game is fine. If someone I liked or were even on normal terms and were asks to remove content, I'd comply, but due to personal issues with her, I might ignore, look away, or even post it elsewhere to spite her. That's the distinction I wanted to highlight.

- Final point: I'm still here, and I've previously explained when I'll be leaving. The lengthy sentence was meant to convey this clearly. I understand your perspective and if you consider the context provided earlier you would have had reacted differently. Having a Japanese-speaking friend listen and translate what was said could help you understand the origin and purpose of my post.

And thats where you get it wrong because for some reason you keep on thinking and saying me informing the people is done sneaky or with nefarious motives when ALL the time I was clear about them, fom the beginning. Yes, im not defending "my" action as there is nothing to defend in the fist place because it wasnt ME who come with the idea I want inform the folks because of her of some saviour mentaility. This toon going down the trash with its score wise and, which I made pretty much clear. Hence even in that fucking same post you quoted me:

"I personally dont care what the people in japanse think about it, its their beef and this is Mangadex.. But I think if these NTR chapters got posted here on this manga, not seperate, as awhole as to show what it really is, I would be fine and done with it for good as its then up to the person individual to either keep reading after it or not."
Yet also in prior post I said:
"Whatever it will, since it happend anyway this manga is Trash and will be. Im all here to shit on her face and inform the people who didnt know what happend offscreen."

Hence I said you should read it first before posting or arguing. One the other hand I really post much today, so who want to read through bunch of rage post.

If you dont want to expand this conversation further I wont mind as it seems you are done with your nerves, as i wont see it as something negative or cowardly since I think this made it more clearer. But of course if you what to know more -> Feel free.
 
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what the hell is happening in this comment section
We started arguing whether a woman that keeps going back to men who fuck her, free of duress, is consenting. Then the author didn't like that people were upset by her trying to make a wholesome story about a young woman learning about family love for the public... and then making her an unrepentant slut in the private fanbox chapters. So we're talking about the bit of twitter drama that followed that.

P.S.: NTR alert.
 
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It's rape my guy. Page 1 the girl's passed out, one of the guy's about to stick the D in her, another is holding head and arms behind her head. Page 2 he sticks it in, she wakes up. Page 3, heart eyes cause that's hentai for you. Page 1 and 2 make it perfectly clear it's rape, page 3 is the typical hentai fantasy where the girl falls to the pleasure

Edit: Just wanted to add it's implied she's been drugged too, not just black out drunk. She's wet while passed out before the guy even sticks it in. Very, very typical hentai shenanigans. I mean, unless you decide to interpret that as her being horny while passed out.
BRO. She was not passed out AT ALL. She doesn't pass out, the black was a fucking time skip. A literal fade to black to future events. She was awake, grinding "her clit on the glans" (as they so very explicitly put it), and actively commenting on how good it feels. The dude isn't holding her arms behind her head, she's fucking leaning on him, and he's putting his arms around her. Then for the finale, she's using her hands on a second guy too! Get the fuck out of here with your cope. Why would you lie like that if you've seen it?
She did get raped. You can find it author's fanbox. It's not free though.
Not rape. At all. Oh boi. Not even close.
The reason why its NTR because she gets fucked by others, and if you saw the leaked stuff its hardcore NTR with her enjoying it with the whole heart eyes
Brother, I just read through, and I get EXACTLY why they're calling it NTR now. The guys are literally commenting on how the brother's probably into her because they're not blood relatives, and how he'd probably rape her some day. Meanwhile she's actively grinding on the other guy's dick. It felt weird defending this take while only getting bits and pieces about it here and there, but in hindsight, I didn't defend it hard enough!

I take it all back: This is NTR. You were right. We're literally just missing the cuck show before even the degenerate NTR fans are forced to agree.

yeah I saw the fanbox stuff, basically she was forced but it is shown
Not forced. Not even close.
She was black out drunk, in any situation you’d call it date rape at best, but because the artist drew her with heart eyes she wanted it. (And I guess doesn’t have a father?).
There’s not that many pages, you can go back and see a panel of her vision blurring and it literally fading to black. Seems like everyone, including the author, knows what was happening, which was date rape.
Confirmed conscious. Not blackout drunk at all; active, enthusiastic participant. Black was a time skip, and you ignore that they also drank a lot. If everyone's drunk, men don't suddenly become default rapists for fooling around with the girl. The thought that they're the rapists here makes as much sense as saying she was.
 
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BRO. She was not passed out AT ALL. She doesn't pass out, the black was a fucking time skip. A literal fade to black to future events. She was awake, grinding "her clit on the glans" (as they so very explicitly put it), and actively commenting on how good it feels. The dude isn't holding her arms behind her head, she's fucking leaning on him, and he's putting his arms around her. Then for the finale, she's using her hands on a second guy too. Get the fuck out of here with your cope. Why would you lie like that if you've seen it?

Not rape. At all. Oh boi. Not even close.

Brother, I just read through, and I get EXACTLY why they're calling it NTR now. The guys are literally commenting on how the brother's probably into her because they're not blood relatives, and how he'd probably rape her some day. Meanwhile she's actively grinding on the other guy's dick.

I take it all back: This is NTR. You were right. We're literally just missing the cuck show before even the degenerate NTR fans are forced to agree.
My favorite part about it all is how it's NTR in a meta sense. The author very clearly wanted to write about an incest relationship where the brother "corrects" the sister's behavior. Unfortunately, TOS said no and the author wanted to continue the R18 shit, so they just retconned it into platonic NBR and had her get railed by random douchebags instead so the author could play the "making her understand" part straight.

Sure, she's right that it isn't NTR, but that's only because the MC had his own story hijacked in favor of fuckboy gangbangs.

What's funnier to me is the fact that she expected this to sit well with her original audience. Like you said, she really tried to have her cake and eat it too.

Edit: I decided to actually go back and read the textboxes and wow they actually do say that about her brother. Yeah, never mind; the author is straight up dangling NTR elements in the reader's face. "It's not NTR," my ass.
 
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I decided to actually go back and read the textboxes and wow they actually do say that about her brother. Yeah, never mind; the author is straight up dangling NTR elements in the reader's face. "It's not NTR," my ass.
Yeah, did you think I was joking? Literally all that's missing from the scene is her giving the usual guilty "Don't talk about him right nooowwww moan", and the guy, either finding them by coincidence, or having been explicitly invited by the fuckboys, staring at the whole thing from some hidden vantage point, shamefully jerking off and crying.

I wouldn't be surprised if this was the plan all along. Make the original, show the brother is definitely interested, then flash back to the drinking party, and then we see this happening, after we know bro is into her. Then the lines about him are just a case of literary irony.

Picture it:
"I'll correct you. In my own way. jizz -_-"
Flashback to drinking
"MAN, I SURE LOVE BANGING THIS BROAD. I BET HER BROTHER'S PINING FOR SOME OF THIS"
 

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