The Day I Decided to Make My Cheeky Gyaru Sister Understand in My Own Way - Ch. 5 - Making my cheeky gal sister understand christmas

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Lol what. They're literally siblings, even if not blood-related.
Oh, you're 100% out of the loop. Yeah, this used to be a netori "correction" story where the brother would molest FMC in her sleep so she's subconsciously remember how much better she felt with him and leave her "boyfriend". Incest and "non-consensual activities" were against Pixiv/Twitter TOS, so she had to change it. Now he's the Step-Brother, this is a normal romance, and all the sex is 100% consensual. So with the fact in mind, having her get plowed enthusiastically basically ruined her. Especially since now the "correction" is wholesome, since she now has to want to change, and we have to like her too.

You can't take people's interactions out of their society's context. It's pretty obvious that the guy is exploiting the prejudice existing in the Japanese society to reach his goals.
No. I don't know what story you're reading, but it's definitely not this one.
 
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Oh, you're 100% out of the loop. Yeah, this used to be a netori "correction" story where the brother would molest FMC in her sleep so she's subconsciously remember how much better she felt with him and leave her "boyfriend". Incest and "non-consensual activities" were against Pixiv/Twitter TOS, so she had to change it.
Wtf? Where was that?

No. I don't know what story you're reading, but it's definitely not this one.
Name a couple of factors to motivate her to change otherwise, why wouldn't you.
 
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Wtf? Where was that?
Pixiv fanbox, and twitter. Now it's only on the funny number site under 482121

The new chapters are on there, and here too.

Name a couple of factors to motivate her to change otherwise, why wouldn't you.
None. The writer is a hack. She wants to portray a canonical dirty slut as a shy victim, an enthusiastic slut, and a lonely outsider in her own family, all while making her change over the course of three days because (and clearly you haven't read the story if I need to explain this to you) her brother offered her water after the gangbang, he tended to her when she got sick the next day, then he messaged her about dinner, and told her to be careful on the way home.
 
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Pixiv fanbox, and twitter. Now it's only on the funny number site under 482121
Wtf, lol.

She wants to portray a canonical dirty slut as a shy victim, an enthusiastic slut, and a lonely outsider in her own family
To be fair, those aren't all that contradictory. People can be complex, with incompatible feelings going on at once.
I guess we'll have to wait and see - well, if there's no incest, that's a step too far for me.
 
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I guess we'll have to wait and see - well, if there's no incest, that's a step too far for me.
You haven't read any of this, have you? What are you even doing here? Do you just look at the pictures and move along? Do you really need me to link you to the incest fanbox now? It's been up for days. It's a romance between brother and sister. What do you think is going to happen? The author would be abandoning the entire fanbase she'd built up by not making a pseudo-incest story.
 
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You haven't read any of this, have you? What are you even doing here? Do you just look at the pictures and move along? Do you really need me to link you to the incest fanbox now? It's been up for days. It's a romance between brother and sister. What do you think is going to happen? The author would be abandoning the entire fanbase she'd built up by not making a pseudo-incest story.
what happens in fanbox, stays in fanbox :ь
 
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You know. After reading the R18 part, I have no real idea where this is going. The main options for me are the healthy family route or the incest is wincest route. But really, it feels like it could also be everything else
 
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It can only be seen as rape if you believe women have no agency and can never be accountable for their actions. Which is what you obviously believe. Both her and the men were drunk, but you only want to hold the men accountable. Why? If being drunk absolves her of responsibility, why not the men? Why are the men expected to remain completely in control of their mental faculties while drunk but not her?

Because you, and those like you, believe women to be the equivalent of retarded children when it suits you, and also completely the equal of men, also when it suits you. That they are empowered and just as capable as men, but also completely helpless and ALWAYS the victim, in every situation, at the same time.

The girl in this story is not a victim, she is a whore that regrets being a whore after the fact, and then goes back so she can be a whore some more. No one forced her to stay, no one forced her to drink, no one forced her to get naked, no one forced her to enjoy being fucked by a roomful of guys. She did all of that on her own.
“Because you, and those like you, believe women to be the equivalent of retarded children when it suits you.”
Oh brother, this guy stinks! She can be a whore, I’ve already said that. There’s women who are whores. That being said, it is the framing of that chapter that makes it seem like rape. I don’t think entrapping your “friend” into a party with a group of men is necessarily morally right. And, because of her ”friend” doing that, it could be seen as rape on the basis of that. She is visibly sweating, has a nervous look on her face and it only her who is seen drinking, not only that, it seems as if she is pressured into committing those acts.
By definition, it is rape.
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SCENARIOS THAT HAPPENED IN THAT CHAPTER:

Did you have the capacity to consent?​

Any person who’s consenting to sexual activity must have full power to make that decision. You can’t consent if you’re incapacitated.

People who are under the influence of drugs or alcohol may have diminished capacity.

An intoxicated person can consent as long as they’re able to make informed decisions without pressure or coercion. Here are some signs of intoxication:

  • slurred speech
  • stumbling or wobbling when walking
  • exaggerated emotions and gestures
Consent can’t be given by someone who’s incapacitated. Some signs of incapacitation include:

  • speaking incoherently
  • not being able to walk without assistance
  • confusion, like not knowing the day of the week or where they are
  • passing out
Likewise, people who are incapacitated in another way — for example, they may have an intellectual disability — may not fully understand what’s happening. They can’t, in that case, provide consent.

Any sexual contact, without proper consent, could be considered rape.

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Was your consent freely given?​

Consent is an explicit agreement. It should be given enthusiastically and without reservation.

If you’re being threatened in any way, you can’t give consent. Being threatened with force, manipulation, or coercion means any “yes” is involuntary.

Sexual contact that happens after a coerced yes is sexual assault or rape.

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I said no but they kept asking, so I eventually said yes to get them to stop​

Saying no over and over again and then saying yes may be considered coerced consent. In that case, consent isn’t freely given.

Any sexual contact could then be considered rape or assault.

It’s true that some people say no, then change their minds freely. However, that should be a decision that’s made without nagging or pressure from another person.
 
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Btw, where the hell is any NTR in this manga? Or is it the usual "father letting his daughter engage in premarital sex is NTR" drivel?
Do you know what NTR means?
“Although the exact origin of the term “Netorare” is not known, it is the Japanese word for being cuckolded, literally translating to “Taken away by sleeping.”
This manga is a romance, sets up foundation for a romantic relationship, then has a chapter with a gangbang...
”Taken away by sleeping.”
 
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It only can be seen as rape if you deny the FMC any agency. She repeatedly and unequivocally gives her consent.

If anything, it's the premise of the manga that should be questioned: so FMC likes to sleep around - all the power to her, it's her life to live as she sees fit. Yet her brother sees the need to """save""" her (unbidden and unasked for), and shames her into stopping doing what she enjoys.
???? Sooooo, when does she give her outright consent in the manga because I remember that never happening? Also, the examples I gave say that what happened could be seen as rape.
 
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“Because you, and those like you, believe women to be the equivalent of retarded children when it suits you.”
Oh brother, this guy stinks! She can be a whore, I’ve already said that. There’s women who are whores. That being said, it is the framing of that chapter that makes it seem like rape. I don’t think entrapping your “friend” into a party with a group of men is necessarily morally right. And, because of her ”friend” doing that, it could be seen as rape on the basis of that. She is visibly sweating, has a nervous look on her face and it only her who is seen drinking, not only that, it seems as if she is pressured into committing those acts.
By definition, it is rape.
.
SCENARIOS THAT HAPPENED IN THAT CHAPTER:

Did you have the capacity to consent?​

Any person who’s consenting to sexual activity must have full power to make that decision. You can’t consent if you’re incapacitated.

People who are under the influence of drugs or alcohol may have diminished capacity.

An intoxicated person can consent as long as they’re able to make informed decisions without pressure or coercion. Here are some signs of intoxication:

  • slurred speech
  • stumbling or wobbling when walking
  • exaggerated emotions and gestures
Consent can’t be given by someone who’s incapacitated. Some signs of incapacitation include:

  • speaking incoherently
  • not being able to walk without assistance
  • confusion, like not knowing the day of the week or where they are
  • passing out
Likewise, people who are incapacitated in another way — for example, they may have an intellectual disability — may not fully understand what’s happening. They can’t, in that case, provide consent.

Any sexual contact, without proper consent, could be considered rape.

.

Was your consent freely given?​

Consent is an explicit agreement. It should be given enthusiastically and without reservation.

If you’re being threatened in any way, you can’t give consent. Being threatened with force, manipulation, or coercion means any “yes” is involuntary.

Sexual contact that happens after a coerced yes is sexual assault or rape.

.

I said no but they kept asking, so I eventually said yes to get them to stop​

Saying no over and over again and then saying yes may be considered coerced consent. In that case, consent isn’t freely given.

Any sexual contact could then be considered rape or assault.

It’s true that some people say no, then change their minds freely. However, that should be a decision that’s made without nagging or pressure from another person.
Did the men give their consent? I didn't see any explicit consent given by the guys. They were all drunk, so they couldn't give their consent anyway. Seems like this girl has a bunch of rape victims she needs to answer for.
 
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Last chapter's controversy: "Is it netorare?"
This chapter's controversy: "Is it gang rape?"

I'm not wild about the porn, but I find it amusing that this one Pixiv comic/Fanbox bait can generate this much controversy and general attention and I want to see the mangaka keep at developing this.

So this manga is about the sister getting second chance.
I think this story was supposed to be some kind of netori story where the protagonist steals the heroine... in her sleep, via molestation/rape, causing her to fall away from her yarisa.

Pixiv apparently didn't like the idea of sleep rape, so it seems like the general premise (the netori) is retained, but the pair aren't blood related and the protagonist is stealing the heroine away with the closest SFW thing to sleep rape: water for her hangover, hamburg steak, and... bringing joy to children on Christmas.

By the way, I think I can start to see why the heroine was harsh with the protagonist in chapter 1: this ninja's eyes got my fight-or-flight activated, and I'm 'boutta believe I can fly.

The author needs an editor to help her refine how she tells stories and writes characters.
This is a Pixiv comic-- what's she getting an editor for?
 
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happy holidays! thanks for translation as always

man it really shouldve been me
 
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I'm not wild about the porn, but I find it amusing that this one Pixiv comic/Fanbox bait can generate this much controversy and general attention and I want to see the mangaka keep at developing this.
It wouldn't create such controversy if few stubborn people didn't try to force their opinion without actually reading and understanding the source. They blatantly ignored drawn expressions and written texts, and just said whatever they wanted to be the truth while rejecting other's explanations.

I think this story was supposed to be some kind of netori story where the protagonist steals the heroine... in her sleep, via molestation/rape, causing her to fall away from her yarisa.

Pixiv apparently didn't like the idea of sleep rape, so it seems like the general premise (the netori) is retained, but the pair aren't blood related and the protagonist is stealing the heroine away with the closest SFW thing to sleep rape: water for her hangover, hamburg steak, and... bringing joy to children on Christmas.
The author indeed drew the sleep molestation version, but it was only one chapter and they stopped before starting this version. This version started with a gangrape and the author wrote few chapters. It was after they released The Day My Gal Sister Stepped Out that people started complaining about the lack of rape tag. So in their hurried attempt to avoid getting flagged and deleted by Pixiv, the author said that the sister is actually a slut so it's not rape, despite what they themself drew and wrote in Day 1, Day 2, and The Day My Gal Sister Stepped Out.
 
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Did the men give their consent? I didn't see any explicit consent given by the guys. They were all drunk, so they couldn't give their consent anyway. Seems like this girl has a bunch of rape victims she needs to answer for.
Would recommend deleting this comment because it makes you seem like an idiot which I doubt is the case. Did you not read any of what I said? Like seriously. I gave you medically reviewed evidence to support my argument…
 

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