The Girl, the Shovel, and the Evil Eye - Ch. 23 - The Definition of a Non-Living Thing

[daffy]

That was crazy.
Thanks for the chapter

 

[jokerxhisoka]

It was already revealed from the moment of the dragon lady that she have eaten other people before, so she was already decided to be an antagonist whether Myriad died or not. And as shown at the scene of Myriad's death, she immediately go after the children after they were released from slavery because the job is done.

I never said anything about her being right or wrong. I said that the choices made by the characters didn't make sense. She was supposed to be a being that everyone should avoid, that if she were to go to a city it would be done for. But out of nowhere, some random adventurers had the courage and ability to stop her. The author made her too strong and ended it in a lackluster manner, since he didn't know how to deal with all the plot armor that he had given to her.

 

[AAA1]

It was offered a bounty for the slave trader's head too. I've would preferred if the MC had left after he had achieved his goal, to save the girl. The MC still got a "unknown power" in the end though.

Leaving wouldn't be in his mc's mind. Do you actually reading past chapter? How can you casually assume the mc have the option to leave when he know people are in trouble and the enemy is clearly being hated by mc since the incident from the myriad mansion? She is his target too.

And what 'unknown power' do you talking about? He just leveling up his truthful evil eye. It's already known past chapter

 

[Nimroth]

In what way is her eating ppl a bad thing? She needs sustenance too, and from what I understood/remembered (it was prolly years ago they revealed this detail, by now) she only ate ppl who attacked her or that were her guild-designated subjugation targets. Or ppl who were abusing kids.
Though I probably remember incorrectly.

Well she tried to eat the slave children last chapter as soon as she was no longer bound by her request to save them anymore.

 

[AAA1]

I think the author didn't know what to do with this characters cause if that was the plan why send them put them in a cage and beat them up if that was the plan ?

so he just killed both of them to not progress with the potential sub plots he started.

I am not sure what 'beat them up' you talking about? What chapter is it? Being put in a cage is normal way to hid the slaves being known by public. The 4 slaves (pecorine included) is being put in that place (the slum and the cage) for temporary habitual place. The 3 slaves (pecorine excluded) are currently being negotiated to leicester. Well the negotiation failed.
Maybe i just assuming since it's not really clear what he do to myriad slave but there is no prove that they are being abused in the past chapters

 

[Dwarfy2k]

I am not sure what 'beat them up' you talking about? What chapter is it? Being put in a cage is normal way to hid the slaves being known by public. The 4 slaves (pecorine included) is being put in that place (the slum and the cage) for temporary habitual place. The 3 slaves (pecorine excluded) are currently being negotiated to leicester. Well the negotiation failed.
Maybe i just assuming since it's not really clear what he do to myriad slave but there is no prove that they are being abused in the past chapters

Forcibly slaving people would count as abuse. They are both bad in different ways. While yes Dragongirl is evil via circumstance that still doesnt change that her acts are evil. Remember she doesnt eat the whole body most times its a bite the onto next body innocent or evil.

 

[AAA1]

Forcibly slaving people would count as abuse. They are both bad in different ways. While yes Dragongirl is evil via circumstance that still doesnt change that her acts are evil. Remember she doesnt eat the whole body most times its a bite the onto next body innocent or evil.

They were being forced? What chapter is it? As far as I remember it's only the wolf kid that make assumption he is being missed by his family.
And don't call it an abuse if you don't know the actual reason they were being slaved. Being a slave that live in a mansion would be so much better than being free person that constantly in fear because of the threat in slum or his society.

I just quoted their past experience, the myriad owner and lightning guy, that a slum is not habitable place for children to live. They would likely will die depends on the situation.

 

[Dwarfy2k]

They were being forced? What chapter is it? As far as I remember it's only the wolf kid that make assumption he is being missed by his family.
And don't call it an abuse if you don't know the actual reason they were being slaved. Being a slave that live in a mansion would be so much better than being free person that constantly in fear because of the threat in slum or his society.

I just quoted their past experience, the myriad owner and lightning guy, that a slum is not habitable place for children to live. They would likely will die depends on the situation.

Did you forget that part were Dragon girl was commisioned via the guild to free them cause it was bad? Also yes its abuse to slave anyone, if you want to save teh children you employ them not feckin enslave them. I cannot believe I have to explain slavery bad but here we are.

 

[jokerxhisoka]

Leaving wouldn't be in his mc's mind. Do you actually reading past chapter? How can you casually assume the mc have the option to leave when he know people are in trouble and the enemy is clearly being hated by mc since the incident from the myriad mansion? She is his target too.

And what 'unknown power' do you talking about? He just leveling up his truthful evil eye. It's already known past chapter

the only one I see assuming anything here is you. I put it in between quotations exactly because it worked like an unknown power that shows up in the most opportune moment. Leveling his evil eye could have shown any kind of stat, even so, he got the ability to see the exact stat that he needed at that moment.

 

[erin4]

This development wasn't good at all, It could have been resolved long ago if the adventurers had dealt with myriad. The girl was supposedly one of a handful of beings that you MUST avoid, but these people just took the mission of killing her for a little bit more of money than a mission of dealing with a lot weaker slaver? Also, it was shown that she can easily kill any of them but just stood there in the middle taking all of their attacks? There are so many holes in this arc that I felt like my interest in this was lowering with every new chapter. I also don't see why this fight was good, there wasn't any actual fight, she was just there taking damage until the very minute when she couldn't anymore.
Now that I remember, Are they even going to get paid now that myriad died? If I remember correctly it was just a verbal contract.

i feel the same,

 

[erin4]

This manga started good but for some reason its becoming stale for me. Although I'll still gonna read it to pass time.
I hope that it gets back on its feet so it wont go downhill

 

[RanmaChaos]

Thanks for the chapter!

 

[AnotherDuck]

I put it in between quotations exactly because it worked like an unknown power that shows up in the most opportune moment. Leveling his evil eye could have shown any kind of stat, even so, he got the ability to see the exact stat that he needed at that moment.

I don't agree with that. It's not an unknown power, since it's an expected upgrade of a known power. It didn't just show up, since it was deliberately gained in a way consistent with just about any of these game worlds.

Sure, the exact stats he got to see could've been different, but he got the one he wanted. It was a gamble, but one he felt confident enough to bet on. It's entirely within reasonable expectations.

 

[Umetsu]

She was manipulated and cursed, she doesn't deserved such an end! 😭

 

[jokerxhisoka]

I don't agree with that. It's not an unknown power, since it's an expected upgrade of a known power. It didn't just show up, since it was deliberately gained in a way consistent with just about any of these game worlds.

Sure, the exact stats he got to see could've been different, but he got the one he wanted. It was a gamble, but one he felt confident enough to bet on. It's entirely within reasonable expectations.

it's not a gamble, this is a written story and it's the choice the author made. As I've said before, I didn't mean it was a unknown power, but it worked exactly like an unknown power that appeared at the most opportune moment.

 

[Akadetsu]

And that kids is why small boobs save lives

 

[AnotherDuck]

it's not a gamble, this is a written story and it's the choice the author made. As I've said before, I didn't mean it was a unknown power, but it worked exactly like an unknown power that appeared at the most opportune moment.

Gamble by the character; chance doesn't exist from a Doylist point of view. The point is, a story shouldn't rely on a character getting lucky with something, but I don't think the luck factor here was so high it would break suspension of disbelief.

An unknown power is like buying a lottery ticket and using whatever you win to solve the plot. This is more like earning money through an established job to buy something you can expect to buy and solve the plot with that. I don't see the point with your comparison.

 

[Solaz]

And that kids is why small boobs save lives

Wouldn't bigger boobs have given her more protection though?

 

[jokerxhisoka]

Gamble by the character; chance doesn't exist from a Doylist point of view. The point is, a story shouldn't rely on a character getting lucky with something, but I don't think the luck factor here was so high it would break suspension of disbelief.

An unknown power is like buying a lottery ticket and using whatever you win to solve the plot. This is more like earning money through an established job to buy something you can expect to buy and solve the plot with that. I don't see the point with your comparison.

Not at all, it was still a situation where he could have gotten anything out of it. His expectation for getting the ability to see mp didn't have any basis besides "i will see more stuff".

 

[QueenNether]

Thank you for translating the giant pools of information as the Mc leveled up the truth eye