Tondemo Skill de Isekai Hourou Meshi - Vol. 6 Ch. 31 - What a Nice Bath

[Mweeheehee]

Have to agree that using wyvern/wagyu meat would be kind of a waste- and even IF the meat is trimmed of major fat, it would likely still be really really heavy because of intramuscular fat. This is especially likely if they were A5 grade wagyu- which is really not something u should eat large quantities of. True Wagyu is certainly pampered (tho honestly, they are also treated like feedlot cattle, just without antibiotics/hormones/stress), but even the highest grade Japanese wagyu are still often fed grains- not a natural part of a ruminant's diet- thus contributing to their fat content and flavor, which can end up feeling very very heavy. If you have had 100% pastured, no-grain beef, many would actually consider that "gamey" now because most of the past generation have never had non-corn/grain finished beef- the flavor is very different. And gaminess is all about the diet/exercise of the animal- butchering and prep certainly play a role, but u are not removing all gaminess because u are cooking down in stew (in which case it would take a VERY long time) Coq au vin, the classic farmer's chicken wine braise stew is cooked with an old rooster/hen forever because it is insanely stringy and dry otherwise. Many meats are doused in wine and spices to cover up the gaminess- it's just one of the reasons why spices were causes of war, colonization, and so prized before modern livestock agriculture.

This helps to explain the quality and the reality of wagyu (and why it would be a fairly horrible idea to use it for stew- look at the pictures of the marbling)- https://www.seriouseats.com/2016/07/fake-kobe-wagyu-beef-japanese-steak.html as well as this- https://www.seriouseats.com/2019/12/we-ate-super-expensive-steak-so-you-dont-have-to.html

Isekai being what it is tho- who knows? Dunno how likely the MC ever had really expensive wagyu in Japan- but not exactly an everyday occurrence, nor would he have had what looks like a huge prime rib loin cut (again, such a waste =P ) It IS a cooking isekai manga/novel tho, so critique should be expected no?

Also agree- demi-glace is a very time consuming endeavor to make. And it certainly would be worse using beef bones rather than veal- smell isn't bad, but it would be SUPER meaty/beefy over time required for reduction. The issue with canned premade stuff is the lack of sodium control since its all prepped ahead.

Now, if it were the SHANKS of the wyvern (or whatever the bull version thing was in the novel?)...that would be better =D delicious gelatinous collagen 🤤 and unlikely to need a demi-glace for seasoning/thickening either at that point.

 

[ocdmn]

wyvern is subtype of a dragon, which basically a lizard. so if we liken dragons with alligator, would wyvern be monitor lizard? so... it's a monitor lizard stew?

 

[dharman]

aromatherapy bath: milk + lemon + poisonous metallic acid SLIME. 😁

 

[thanghe]

For Feru to skip dinner...
Did he found miss Feru or something?
Thank for the chapter

 

[GraniteNinja]

I like the art style of this manga it's just kinda warm and welcoming

 

[dextersTomato]

Hahahaha. Feru being late from Dinner....??!?!?!?!

NO WAY!!!!

Something bad was happening, or something delicious meat will be coming on the way to MC...

Feru's brain was full of meat seared with soy sauce

 

[Mnx]

Tysm foe the updatw

 

[fform]

glad this is still going

 

[jonsmth]

@Mweeheehee
I thought spices were sought after because it's meant to hide the taste of old meat. People didn't have refrigerators, nor could they slaughter livestock everyday to provide fresh meat. Hunting isn't something everyone did, and for those who do, they would often have too much for themselves that they have to preserve the rest of the meat. There are no wars for spices anymore because of post-imperial trade - gigantic cargo ships, industrialized production and processing, and some are just produced at home - you could just take a 10min walk and you could grab spices off of a shelf these days.

I think stewing the wyvern meat was the right thing. You guarantee sterilization while tenderizing it from the long cooking. He should be stewing everything or at least cook them well done actually. You don't know what sort of isekai parasites are in the meats.

 

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Uncle feru found a female mate question mark

 

[Erinthas]

I believe the "spices hide taste of old meat" is a myth. Most meat would have been cured or preserved and only some of it would've been used immediately. For one, most spices are in fact incapable of hiding taste or scent of bad meat. Chilies could perhaps, but they are from the new world which wasn't discovered by then, and the other spices that might be able to accomplish that would require a plentiful amount of them. Spices were luxury items, to be used sparingly because even wealthy would not be able to just throw a fistful of spice to every meat dish to hide the fact it's bad. A person who could afford to use spices, could probably also afford the use of fresh meat if they so desired.

 

[Mweeheehee]

@jonsmth certainly spices could be used to hide the smell of RANCID meat- and as u said, with no fridge or large hunting quantity- this is what salt preservation is for (and why there were also salt wars - there's a reason Gandhi organized a salt march to fight Britain's brutal colonization and salt monopoly). Most people today with modern refrigeration wouldn't know that most meat was preserved or "old meat"- most meat hunted or raised was rarely what we today call "fresh"- meats were hung to dry age in sheds after being bled and processed. Think dry-aged steak or hung game birds. Access to those cuts of meat were not easily available in general- again, meat takes resources and land to raise, again, making it more likely to be the province of the rich. Spices were definitely used to cook this "fresh meat" (which almost always had a touch of rancidity due to enzymatic activity and fat oxidation during the hanging process), and in particular for aristocracy or people of means in Europe who could actually afford said spices- foreign sourced spices would be more expensive than gold, and were highly valued. That's certainly not to say there weren't local spices and seasonings that were used- fruits, herbs, and of course fish sauce (garum, cottura, are all ancient throughout coastal Europe). But even up the 1950's, black pepper was VERY expensive in Europe for anyone but those of means.

As for the stew in this chapter and cooking it to well done...didn't he have some storage box that has time stasis? Weren't there some isekai skills for disease or pathogen resistance? I don't remember exactly and maybe i'm mixing up other mangas. He didn't eat rare meats before? Or raw eggs- like raw tamago gohan? Long cooking times do not guarantee tender results- certain cuts of meat don't actually break down tenderly the same way as others due to lower collagen content, fiber and direction of muscle striation,and method of cooking/temp- they can actually end up very stringy and chewy. Fine for something like a ropa vieja, but for a beef burgundy/japanese beef stew prob not the ideal texture. Granted, that's prob not the issue here- I was pointing out the fact that it would be VERY fatty IF the basis is top grade wagyu beef loin- the amount of fat that would have to be skimmed off would practically make up half the stew. Again tho- it's a manga, so maybe it's magic wyvern wagyu that doesn't get that fatty? In which case, yes, let's eat! =D

@Erinthas- ach, hah, yes, u said it much more succintly =D

 

[cache_bag]

@asfhoiasfjoiasfjpi @Lucrecia 10 minutes of constant attention for a blond roux, sure, but I think he probably wanted a darker one. And you still get massive bonuses with demi glace, which is nontrivial to make in the middle of nowhere.

And hey, a lot of people like ketchup, as mucb as it's not hip to do so XD

 

[jonsmth]

@Erinthas @Mweeheehee
I'm aware that most meat is processed (dried, cured, smoked). Only way for meat to be eaten fresh is when it's just recently dismantled.

I've had old meat before and it has a distinct taste. You're right, it's hard to hide it as I could taste it even through different dishes. I wouldn't call it rancid as I was still fine after eating them on more than one occasion.

As for stewing, MC doesn't know which part of the wyvern would get tender after long cooking, so I think common cooking sense prevails. There's always a first time for everything and it's amazing that he never failed even once while using exotic meats. Personally, I don't mind having fatty stew - greasy stews is common in our local cuisine. Just make sure to eat it while it's still hot.

 

[iteck]

Finally thanks you so much LH

 

[liszst]

Although he's got a long way to go, I feel oddly proud seeing his stone wall and fireball lol. His meals always look so heavenly too!

 

[laggmann]

Thanks for the chapter

 

[nobaka]

@vessalius
totally reasonable response, you weren't complaining about the mechanics or anything. my bad entirely.

re: wyvern if anything, it would be closer to croc or gator meat. Which is pretty damn good, honestly.

 

[blablablub]

Disclaimer: Do not, I repeat, do not stick your arm into boiling water.

 

[Yrtiop]

What ?? Ketchup ?? Heresy ! :O