TS TENSEI shite Masaka no Sub Heroine ni. - Ch. 1

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You are genuinely saying that you like a manga where rape is justified? what? like... enjoy it? oof im baffled. im sorry i didn't know my morals were a standard that rape shouldn't be justified. Damn yea myb, go on enjoy the “fantasy” of rape justification that you seem pretty into it lol. Yes i hate loli manga for any other purposes than depicting them in cute/fluff category. Do you like loli rape manga im genuinely curious, like what are we even defending? good for you my man outing with what you like lol.

Im not gonna respond anymore, ik the only answers i will get out of you is “yes, i like rape and its good” / “yes i like loli, its good”
its from outside point but i think the real D*ck is you , you call people who like this story R*pist but i think they just love this story . . . i don't know much about this series but i think i will read it because of controversy happening

and that GG guys its look like he angry because you include Palestinian & Israel topic here because he don't attack other hater of this series. . . so yeah next time don't call everyone R*pist or Lol*con because they like the story have this element or theme in there
 
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Skill issue.

You can tell author doesn't know how lesbians work lol.

From what the other comments are saying the MC falls in love with someone that rapes her in the upcoming chapters

Tbh I cannot fucking imagine that. If the guy that assaulted me wasn't already long dead I'd be very tempted to remedy that situation.

Even if I had it in me to forgive him I would never want to see his face again.
 
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You can tell author doesn't know how lesbians work lol.

From what the other comments are saying the MC falls in love with someone that rapes her in the upcoming chapters

Tbh I cannot fucking imagine that. If the guy that assaulted me wasn't already long dead I'd be very tempted to remedy that situation.

Even if I had it in me to forgive him I would never want to see his face again.
Yeah I was thinking that too. "Has the author ever heard of lesbians? They're pretty great, someone ought to let them know. It certainly changed my life."

I think the theme the author is going for -- and do NOT read this as me defending it -- is that Fio doesn't truly "become" a woman until having a man bring it out of them. To be fair, I'd seen more than my fair share of erotica written by women for female audiences exploring that liminal space between masochism and role-defining.
Thing is, you usually know what you're getting into BEFORE choosing to read one of those stories. "Okay this story obeys p0rn logic" -- whereas this is mostly presented as an adventure story. (incidentally content warnings also go a long way to informing a would-be reader)

Incidentally as to something Amy brought up -- I wish this could go without saying, but rape realistically is never about lust or romance. It's a crime of power and violence. And it isn't even about gender politics, getting ahead of that right the hell now: I've known male and female survivors alike with both male and female attackers. It's terrifying, not sexy for any of them.

TBH the rape thing is more adjacent to my biggest criticism of this manga: the TS genre's best quality with gender bending protagonists is that you can bridge gender empathy gaps. Bring us all closer together through at least one perspective character. Instead of that, this first chapter sure seems to revel in the idea that women by default are petty, cruel and super thirsty. And very very scary. That we eventually wind up in "yay for assault!" town doesn't seem like a very long roadtrip.
 
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i read this story... (because i am curious) i think this story theme about atonement. what i can see the Hero hate himself for what he did so he tried to make it right with Fio (heroine ?) . and Fio And Hero didn't instantly fall in love with each other because of S*x (it only make her be more cautious of men) and hero don't have feeling for her . . . Hero start fall in love with Fio when he know her true nature (kind and self sacrifice) and fio start develop felling for hero because of hero care of her (i suspect because hero feeling guilty ) . so my opinion this story is average. . . because for me real trash one is Heroine suddenly start fall in love with hero without reason (yep i found this in many harem story) . . .
 
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I don't know what everyone is talking about and I'm just gonna ignore the spoilers. I've read fetish doujins and played porn games. I've jacked off to terrible things. I think I can handle this.
I know I've been doing a few textwalls here, so let me just hit the brakes to say:

Valid. I hope you enjoy. Sincerely. I'm glad you know what you're getting into first.
 
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NU is full of paint-drinkers anyway, the more people complain there the better it is. Like if you are a honest moral warrior try to come up with a better argument.
 
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Damn, it's getting a manga serialization, can't wait to read to the end, because the novel is pretty short
 
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its honestly baffling that the author created this... thing, then went on to create a genuinely good piece of fiction about the tragedy and horrors of war
 
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Definitely one of my guilty pleasure WNs… Been excited for this since it was announced, hope the later half doesn’t stray too far from the original (wouldn’t mind if they changed the start tbh)
 
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Not for everyone... Kinda messed up but still enjoyed it, still not everyone will enjoy it
 
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Why did the people at the start of the thread pussy out of actually saying why the story is trash? "Oh this is poo poo after the incident", "Reads this WN, oh this is great-OH NO!" JUST FUCKING SAY THAT MC GETS R. A. P.'d AND THAT THE AUTHOR POORLY ADDRESSES IT due to being one of those "Oh she's just a lesbian cuz she hasn't had any dick" dumb asses. Seriously that would have saved me scrolling and scrolling through unnecessarily vague answers.
Just lay down the facts and let people decide for themselves, we already know the japanese are pretty fucked up with r*pe and the like (like why are fantasy novelists obsessed with slavery?) and if people are ok with that a tip toeing answer on the manga's comment section won't change their opinion. Sheesh.
 
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Let's see how this goes. Surely this being a manga won't get any worse than the novel right?
 
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I got used to read more horrible things than rape mentioned in the story and not gonna lie, kinda funny how an event of rape happening in the fiction story can stirred up the comment section this much lol.
 
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so many casuals here that get upset and call a story trash because of some rape and the women enjoying it lmao just goes to show that they've never been at the deep end of hentai and doujins
 
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Knew this series was gonna cause a discourse due to that incident when it gets an adapation. But seriously, I've read the whole web novel in Chinese which is much better than the rough grammar MTL on novelupdates and this story is actually pretty decent for how short it is. Everybody just keeps bringing up that one incident and calls the whole series bad but outside of that this series is actually pretty darn good. There's some rather emotional scenes later on and the loose plot points all come together and are pretty much all tied up by the end of the series. It's definitely not the best fantasy series out there but its a solid fantasy series that I found to be worth reading.

But man I'm still surprised this series got an adaptation. Now if only those other really niche genderswap romance web novel I'm reading can also get adaptations.
 
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