Tsuki ga Michibiku Isekai Douchuu - Vol. 13 Ch. 86 - Ten More Minutes

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Good art wasted on garbage writing. Some people should really be beaten up for not knowing one of the basics of storytelling. How has it been 86 chapters yet MC is the same person he was in chapter 1?
Western literature apparently takes as one of its dictums: The MC Must Have Character Growth! -- so any story that doesn't have that is garbage.

I disagree. -- It's perfectly possible to have good stories with no MC character growth.

It's just harder to write. The other elements of the story have to be good enough to cover for the lack of MC character growth. (And/or, they have side characters with character growth.)
 
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Western literature apparently takes as one of its dictums: The MC Must Have Character Growth! -- so any story that doesn't have that is garbage.

I disagree. -- It's perfectly possible to have good stories with no MC character growth.

It's just harder to write. The other elements of the story have to be good enough to cover for the lack of MC character growth. (And/or, they have side characters with character growth.)
Well, that really doesn't change the fact that the MC must have character growth, literally one of the fundamentals of writing. If it doesn't matter in your opinion then so be it, more power to you.

Also, the "other elements" of this story is also bad.
 
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iirc they'll touch on it in a bit but Makoto got most of his starting magic from Tsukomi otherwise his mana was worthless, he was the ugly duckling in everything.
IDK if the author explicitly says it somewhere, but it seems like Makoto gets his power from a weird series of sort of accidents.
  • The language cheat ability was supposed to be garbage, but since it applies to all languages (including ancient magic) it's actually pretty strong (especially in conjunction with his mana pool).
  • Tsukiyomi on spur of the moment gives Makoto "realm" power after Tsukiyomi finds out that the bug screwed over Makoto.
  • Then he lucks/stumbles into relationships with Emma, Tomoe and Mio.
  • The bow/mana growth (covered in an earlier chapter) is just a weird side effect -- that has a huge result.
Which matches the general story. It's not a story with a strong central plot backbone (e.g. "revenge on those who did me wrong"), but rather a more episodic collection of incidents (that sometimes pile up).
 
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Well, that really doesn't change the fact that the MC must have character growth, literally one of the fundamentals of writing. If it doesn't matter in your opinion then so be it, more power to you.
This is exactly what I mean. You're taking it as some fundamental, unquestionable rule of the (literary) universe. But it's not. It wasn't written down by god on stone tablets and handed to man. It's a rule that some people came up with. Yes, it clearly has utility, but it's far from inviolable. And there's plenty of fiction that lacks MC character growth.

A pet peeve of mine is that when people who are committed to this rule are faced with an MC with no character growth, they will often nonetheless ascribe growth to that character -- thereby jamming a square peg into a round hole.

That's all I'll say about it.
 
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Makoto doesn't have much of drive (as of now), he may be doing things out of curiosity, but he's pretty much content doing stuff with his main followers, or friends like Rembrandt. If anything happen, it doesn't come from him but from anyone else (save for one time he welcomed hyuman adventurers to Asora). Like bug goddess force teleporting Makoto, once Kuzunoha becomes renown, people are having expectation of the company, and so of Makoto. The other two heroes are much proper isekai MC, OP as fuck and have some goals, having growth and so on.

The story is more focused on world building, at least where the WN is now,
it's more like the calm before the storm, as the only one who can oppose Makoto is the goddess, whom he plans to fight
. There are just a few times where he have to go somewhere and fight stuff, and even then it's more like a walk in the park for him with maybe a few time you may get concerned but no, everything's alright.
to go against the goddess,
it will have a far reaching consequences for the world. It was good to have Hibiki confront him about it, and that's where we see Makoto as character becoming more interesting, at least to me. Dunno if it's his hyuman side why he is like this, or that it's just particular to him, but his good education is what making look human on the most part.
 
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MC is stronger, but before MC came there, this was the #2 strongest person in that world, after the goddess. The multicolored dragon, Root. It would take a lot more than one hit.
What kind of room temperature IQ freak titles his spoiler with a spoiler
 
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It's the Carried by Underlings trope. (Not any official name, AFAIK.) MC has something, typically some massive source of power, which (somehow) results in large numbers of completely loyal underlings, who actually do most of the thinking and take most of the initiative. It equates "I'm the god-like figure but without actually having the competence or drive to have earned that." Frequently is a "nice guy".

Goes to the target audience.
Ah hahahaha. You think Makoto is a nice guy. Well, he has the same sorta self-image. He's not.
“But maybe this is a fortune within the misfortune. We have coincidentally had the chance to meet Raidou-dono who is heading to Kannaoi. This must be the guidance of the Spirit-samas and Wise-samas.” (Shougetsu)


Shougetsu-san is the only one who is denoting us as allies while looking joyful.


The eyes of Akashi-san and Yuduki-san are telling me that they don’t trust me yet.


The servants aren’t showing much emotions and just staying at the back. Doesn’t seem like they will be taking part in the conversation either.


“I don’t really have much of a problem in having you accompany us on the way to Kannaoi, but…we are heading to the labyrinth with a business in our hands, so I don’t think we will be able to cooperate as much as you wish us to.” (Makoto)


Let’s properly delineate a line.


If it is in an extent that can coexist with my job, I don’t mind a certain degree of trouble, but I can’t prioritize this and put the labyrinth for later.


The number one reason for coming to Lorel was because we were doing this for Tsige.


I can’t forget that part.


“No problem. It is fine with having Raidou-dono bring along Iroha-sama to Kannaoi. We will bring the double of Iroha-sama and serve as decoys. In that time, become the cover of Iroha-sama without making her stand out and—” (Shougetsu)


“Who’s there?!” (Yuduki)


Yuduki-san shouts and takes her stance.


There’s no windows here.


There’s also no presence of an exit and entrance.


Then…above huh.


At the other side of the ceiling.


Three people.


The moment I thought about doing something, a part of the ceiling had crumbled, and instead of escaping the instant they were exposed, they rushed in to attack.


How bold.


The rope has already been untied, so I am a free person.


I check the opponents.


Because of the crumbled ceiling, dust is fluttering about, and armed shadows were keenly moving within it.


Each of the three attacked Shougetsu-san’s group.


Instead of black clothing to slip into the night, they are armed huh.


It seems like this group was aiming for a bloodshed from the very beginning.


“Akashi!!” (Yuduki)


“I know, I leave the old man and the women to you!!” (Akashi)


The two bodyguards here also begin their movements well.


It seems like Akashi-san is carrying two while Yuduki-san is tasked to protect Shougetsu-san and the others.


A small confined space. Even if they have already noticed their presence, there’s no agitation even when it was a surprise attack.


I couldn’t tell at the time with Tomoe, but it seems like these two are good in their coordination.


Yeah.


This might end without the need for me to help.


These people aren’t using thought transmission.


If thought transmission was used, I would be able to intercept it, so I can say this for certainty.


If it’s intercepting thought transmissions, leave it to me.


I can take care of all the thought transmissions within a 3km radius.


…I definitely won’t tell that to anyone though.


Being seen as a walking wiretap would be troublesome in a lot of meanings.


Wait.


If they aren’t using thought transmission, in this situation, it should be a moment they would want to escape no matter what, right?


Then, why did they go for an attack rather than escaping?


If their aim is Iroha-chan, information about there being a decoy should be pretty important to have their companions know about.


“Oraa! If you have trained arms, come to me! If you don’t come, I will be the one…wait, what?!” (Yuduki)


“Low-lives that aim for people that don’t have weapons are going to face my wrath…what?” (Akashi)


Right after their thoughts had taken in the situation, they noticed another possibility.


The movements as if aiming Shougetsu-san and the others was a faint!


The three, who I was following with my eyes while sitting, were heading towards my direction.


Why?


No matter how you think about it, I am still an outsider.


Shouldn’t I be the last one you aim for?


The three come to me from three different directions. With no hesitation, and with advanced coordination, they took an attack stance at the same time.


Pretty high level.


Even so, I haven’t heard about the spies of Lorel’s being high level.


That description applies to Aion Kingdom.


Even I who have fought against the spies of Aion, was surprised by the proficient movements of these three.


These are not movements of a spy…they are the moves of an assassin.


“Sharp Step.”


“Enhance – Death’s touch.”


“Largo Tempo.”


The three activated their skills at the same time.


Speed up, increase in attack power plus added effect for chance of instant death, pain numbing.


All of them had effect in the whole party.


This is one of the higher jobs of Shadow Thieves, the skills of the Shadowless.


I have an acquaintance in Tsige that was a Shadow Thief, so I could tell the effects of the skills.


Thief, assassin; whichever it is, the three that have the same advanced-class jobs are coming towards me with the intent to kill me.


Pain numbing will be troublesome when trying to make them spill the beans, so I will dispel that one first.


Just by having a bit of buffs placed on themselves won’t make them pass through my Magic Armor.


It is said that even a master will have difficulties dealing with attacks from three different directions at the same time, but this is a fantasy world with magic.


None of the daggers reach me and were stopped by the Magic Armor.





“You went through the trouble of buffing yourselves, but I will have to cancel th—” (Makoto)


Ah, there’s no need to make them talk.


The eyes of this girl…so that’s what this is.


“W-What?!” (Akashi)


Akashi-san was surprised that the assassins’ attacks were redirected at me, and that the attacks didn’t manage to work and had stopped; she made a shout with both of those emotions.


Ah, as I thought, from within the people here, she might be the one I like the most.


“How pitiful, a puppet.” (Makoto)


I mutter these words.


The three assassins, young girls.


Those eyes of theirs were muddy with thick magic power.


There’s no need to check thoroughly. Their whole bodies are being invaded by it.


I know of this. This is the ability of ‘that person’.


“…For the sake of the hero.”


“You are the enemy of Tomoki-sama.”


“Raidou, definitely kill.”


Just how much of it was actually the order of Tomoki, and just how much was it the rampaging of these girls? I can’t tell that.


At this point, that doesn’t matter.


If they wanted to, they would be able to show suitable strength, and yet, they were like machines. An accurate, coldhearted, and distasteful attack.


That Tomoki, it seems like he hasn’t changed.


“Can’t be helped huh.” (Makoto)


“…Eh?”


Yuduki-san probably noticed the change in my emotions, or maybe she reacted to something that was unexpected, she made a voice that reflected those kind of feelings from her.


Judging from her timing, it might be because she saw my actions. It is harder to distinct exactly because she is a person that seems to be pretty perceptive.


At the same time as I muttered this, I change gears and grab the neck of the assassin at the right with the hand of the Magic Armor, and…break it.


I did the same with the one at the left, grab her head and crush it onto the wall.


Luckily, there’s no one close to the one at the front, so I continuously shot Brids at her chest and pierced through three points of her.


From the three holes that formed a triangle, the one at the top was the biggest. You could clearly see the other side through those holes.


It is nice that there was no annoying screaming.


If that guy is doing something bad in Lorel, it might not be such a bad idea to moderately crush what he is doing.


Having a conversation with him…at this point, no way.


If he comes to make a stupid negotiation with me again, even if I am to make the Empire my enemy, I wouldn’t mind.


I thought that Izumo got me involved with Iroha-chan, but now there’s the possibility that this was a plot from Tomoki.


Seriously, good grief.


“Aah…”


Shougetsu-san and the others were stiffened.


Crap, was it bad for me to clean this up?


“Ah, sorry. Was it bad for me to clean it up? It seemed like they were assassins though.” (Makoto)


Just in case, I don’t mention that this is related to Tomoki and the Empire.


I want some positive proof of how much relation he has.


It is fine to just bring this information back and have Tomoe make a different team to leak the information.


“They seemed like…quite the proficient fighters though…”


“Ah, well, to a certain extent, yeah. But we have also gone through our share of struggles, so something of this level, no matter how many there are, it won’t be a problem. I’m on active duty after all.” (Makoto)


I crushed the head of one of them, but since I have the chance, let’s try checking the faces of the remaining two.


I take off the cloth from the face of the first and third one.


Hm?


Could it be…I feel like I have seen their faces before…


Ah!


The girls that Tomoki was going to exchange with me for Tomoe!


That means, the other one was also one of them.


Hah…to think that these girls were dispatched to Lorel after that.


How pitiful.


Let’s pray for them.


Pray that they don’t get involved with me and Tomoki in their next life.


“You have seen them before?” (Akashi)


Maybe Akashi-san still hasn’t gone out from fighting mode yet, her tone was rough as she asked me who had my hands joined together.


“Nope. Death is something that accompanies battles, but isn’t it fine to pray after it is over?” (Makoto)


It is a bit of a lie.


It is because I somewhat know them that I am now praying for them.


That’s the truth.


“Well, that’s your freedom. Uhm, sorry. I just can’t like merchants. But I have now understood that you are not a simple merchant. That’s why, it might be for a short time but, I-I look forward to working with you.” (Akashi)


“Same here. Look forward to working with you.” (Makoto)


“…Without a single change in temperament, and without a single change in the color of your face, you finished the assassins with polished movements. Whatever your job may be, you have shown me something incredibly terrifying. From now on, I will be careful with my behavior.” (Yuduki)


“It is not that much. I am simply a merchant that is used to a certain extent of trouble.” (Makoto)


It seems like Akashi-san and Yuduki-san have a better evaluation of me.


Better?


Leaving aside Akashi-san, Yuduki-san has a pale face. I wonder if that can be considered a better evaluation.


She did say that she will be careful with her behavior, so there’s no need to care about the details. Yeah.


I simply eliminated the enemies that we had no point in conversing with.


Seriously, how exaggerated.


Shougetsu-san has his eyes wide open.


The servant-san had fainted at some point in time.


Well, with this, it seems like the matter with Shougetsu-san and Iroha-chan will be wrapped up.


Then, let’s go for the exchange of information.


If I remember correctly, Beren-san said that he will be visiting his former homes, and after that, headed to the mountains. The rare composition of Arkes and Forest Onis have gone to investigate the valley of Yaso-Katsui and the vicinities of Kannaoi, but…I wonder how they are doing.
See how very dry that monologue is? He takes 3 young girls - who he knows are a victim of Charm and not in control of themselves - and kills them like he's deciding what to eat for lunch. He breaks a neck, crushes a head, puts 3 hole's in one girl's chest and is interested that he can see through, noting which hole is biggest. He did this, because he simply judged there was no merit in just knocking them out and removing the charm - which could have been done with no danger to himself, but he's like "meh?" This decision did later bite him in the ass, but that's not the point here. He thought nothing, felt nothing, absolutely nothing, over brutally killing like that.


His mini prayer after was not out of an ounce of guilt, but because that's what his Japanese common sense said to do. And he follows that common sense, not because that's who he is. But what would he do, if he abandoned that common sense?
^^^ Not very spoilerish, and meaningless til later, but brutal and shows the real Makoto.

Even the first time he killed, he felt nothing then, though the bitch deserved it. But that no longer matters. It's only an excuse for the first time.

And this is the very best version of Makoto, who met others in the wasteland, went with that flow, got companions, and continued with that flow til now. The world should be grateful to Ema

alternate reality versions of himself. In one, Tomoki asked him to conquer a nation, but he turned it all to sand in front of Tomoki, instantly murdering everyone there, just to get a reaction out of Tomoki.

In another, he used his power to imitate a microwave, to cook one of Hibiki's companions alive in front of her. He thought it was cool.

He's a monster, just barely contained by his notion of common sense, and his self-image as a fairly nice guy.
What kind of room temperature IQ freak titles his spoiler with a spoiler
How about one who thinks "Nope" is a spoiler?
 
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The world should be grateful to Ema
Yes!
I’ve always said, from the very beginning, “Ema is the best!”

Without her, many things would fall apart. She is both strong and very wise, it’s just not emphasized as much because she is quiet and uses her strengths only when needed, not to brag or show off.

I want the author to give her more screen time though….

I’m glad Makoto saved her from being killed.
 
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Put some spoilers, dude.
But also you're remembering wrong, she did cheat on his father but that all happened before they even got to earth.
Did they explore how and why she did?
 
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Just a minor spoiler on why he's the only strange one in the family

So the earlier years they transported into the earth, they still have the protection of the goddess, so his eldest sister still born as a hyuman with also the protection. In the later years, they are already fully adapted in the earth, you can consider them a human/earthling at this point, and so his younger sister also born as a human.

In between though, they got a really rough years where the protection of the goddess is waning but they are still not fully adapted in the earth. That's when he was born, also why he got a really weak physique; basically he got an extreme bad luck since his birth.
are the sisters able to use magic? It's interesting that the Lil sis is human. Also what chapter in the WN?
 
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iirc they'll touch on it in a bit but Makoto got most of his starting magic from Tsukomi otherwise his mana was worthless, he was the ugly duckling in everything.
His real stupid power comes from almost constantly killing himself which allows his vessel to hold more mana. The stupid joke of "zen erase yourself and your senses from the world" training you see martial arts was beat into him by his bow instructor and as it turns out is actually erasing him partially from the world literally nearly killing himself without realizing it. Tomoe explains this to him panic crying as she through he was killing himself.
so, back when he fought Shin/Tomoe, it was basically thanks to Tsukiyomi?
 
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iirc they'll touch on it in a bit but Makoto got most of his starting magic from Tsukomi otherwise his mana was worthless, he was the ugly duckling in everything.
His real stupid power comes from almost constantly killing himself which allows his vessel to hold more mana. The stupid joke of "zen erase yourself and your senses from the world" training you see martial arts was beat into him by his bow instructor and as it turns out is actually erasing him partially from the world literally nearly killing himself without realizing it. Tomoe explains this to him panic crying as she through he was killing himself.
Can I correct something here? All his magic power is his. When he was training his body on Earth, everything developed, but he couldn't notice it. His body was fortified and his spirit was supercharged. Remember that he was training to survive for his while life. Moon Bro's power was the tipping point because his soul got filled up, then the Bug's ability was the straw that broke the camel's back. All in all, the magic power is all his, the divine power is from Moon Bro and the Bug and his nonsensical archery is all him
 
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Not exactly, makoto's problem is how to use his strength, strength wise currently he actually has powers that make him a threat to the goddess in ability, but he's essentially a small faucet with a entire lake of water trying to get through basically.
Basically he has the power, but not the means to manifest it directly yet, this was mentioned in earlier chapters.
It is exactly like that, cause I am not saying he is weaker, he thinks he is.
Remember he believes he barely managed to scape his encounter with mitsurugi and the dragon hunter. He haven't realized yet he was the one who made that huge lake and wiped out the confronting armies. You can also see several panels of him wondering how much of a monster those 2 would have to be.
Given the way he has behaved so far I bet there is no way he will confront an unknown dragon, he will just stay back, be passive about it, and will let tomoe and co. handle everything, until it becomes a mess and then be forced to intervene.
 
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Maybe the beauty of all the hyumans is not entirely genetic. It could be partially the goddess's blessing (=the goddess not wanting to see ugly hyumans). On Earth, Makoto would obviously be born without the blessing and only be affected by the genetics.
Makoto's sisters are beautiful though. Makoto himself is an ugly duckling for whatever reason.
 
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They were given new looks to fit in on Earth, cause beyond Supermodel-level beauty and their bright hair would make it impossible for them to blend in, especially in xenophobic Japan.
I remember that from the (Web?) novel. But how did librarian recognize them?
 

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