Isekai Craft Gurashi: Jiyuu Kimama na Seisan Shoku no Honobono Slow Life - Vol. 2 Ch. 10.1

[MangaDex]

 

[SicklyToast]

Yo thanks for the translation

 

[TheDefend]

I thought you dropped this, thank youu

 

[ciera]

Thanks again

 

[Solipsist]

....Man, I literally don't remember anything about this manga. It seems like 4 months is a long time.
I suddenly appreciate these "Last time, on..." segments in anime.

 

[Seinvolf]

Thank u always for ur great work...
^^...

Isekai Whac-a-Mole...
XD...

 

[Elaborate]

Is it just me that thinks the way manga protagonists like to kill and eat orcs is extremely creepy?
They are explicitly shown to use language and tools, so isn't it pretty much cannibalism?

It's even yuckier if the orcs themselves feasted on humans previously...

 

[Stonegazer]

Is it just me that thinks the way manga protagonists like to kill and eat orcs is extremely creepy?
They are explicitly shown to use language and tools, so isn't it pretty much cannibalism?

It's even yuckier if the orcs themselves feasted on humans previously...

Cannibalism is defined as humans eating humans or animals eating their own kind. I'm not aware of a word that refers to sentients eating sentients of a different species. The concept does raise some questions that are interesting if unpleasant to think about. If you find orc porc disturbing, is it more because orcs are (kind of) intelligent or more because they resemble humans? Are you equally disturbed by dragon steak? How about in settings where dragons are depicted as purely malevolent?

Food for thought.

 

[AnotherDuck]

Their moleing has advanced.

What's this? MMC and FMC fall over each other and it's NOT an awkward situation?

She not thirsty. She hungry.

I'm not aware of a word that refers to sentients eating sentients of a different species.

But somehow, a lot of people seem to think that a mermaid eating fish, any fish, is cannibalism. It's as much cannibalism as humans eating pork. Regular pork, not porc.

But yeah, eating other sentient beings is usually something people take offense to. Dragons are usually not eaten as much if they're sentient. Probably on the same level as porc.

 

[MegumemePoi]

They be turning this into Vietnam and giving the Black Orcs PTSD with the Viet Cong tunnels.

 

[NicholasTurner]

The trees (and ground) are speaking human!

 

[xiaxueyi]

They be turning this into Vietnam and giving the Black Orcs PTSD with the Viet Cong tunnels.

No PTSD if they’re all ded lel

 

[Kaarme]

Since the orcs live in a cave, it seems to me they could just block the exits and fill the place with smoke. Miyabi already made a house underneath the orc cave. Just build a big fire there, with chimneys connected to the orc cave. After taking care of any guards outside, the job would be finished.

Though I suppose that wouldn't give Liz any combat magic practice.

 

[TheronHunter]

She's just hungry for that meat yo , that's why she came up with this mission 😂

 

[Psychronia]

Professionally speaking, this is an unnecessary risk and they should escape while they can after thinning out the numbers enough for the guild to have enough time to prepare.

But careerwise, a little greed and ambition is what drives you to climb to new heights, and this would indeed be a big achievement.

 

[Pokari]

Cannibalism is defined as humans eating humans or animals eating their own kind. I'm not aware of a word that refers to sentients eating sentients of a different species. The concept does raise some questions that are interesting if unpleasant to think about. If you find orc porc disturbing, is it more because orcs are (kind of) intelligent or more because they resemble humans? Are you equally disturbed by dragon steak? How about in settings where dragons are depicted as purely malevolent?

Food for thought.

I mean, I feel vaguely uncomfortable IRL already eating fairly-intelligent animals like octopus or pork. But that's because I'm systematically causing their deaths, not because I'm eating them, per se.

However, I would probably start by drawing the line at intelligent species capable of coherent communication, unless after talking to them they were okay with being eaten. The main issue with cannibalism, aside from prions and whatnot, is primarily how it engenders bad feelings among those who survived, or alternatively, respect for the wishes of the dead. I don't really care what anyone/anything's physical shape is in all that.

It is probably worth briefly stepping aside for a moment when discussing this to note that both the concept and the implicit ranking of corpse desecration we have is highly anthropocentric—we usually think cannibalism (or, for instance, necrophilia) is significantly more "horrid" than, say, sticking someone's head on a pike on a wall, medieval-style, to rot. There's probably a bunch of animals even on our own earth who would think us perfectly crazy for this assessment if we could explain it to them. Plenty of thoughtful people have come up with fantasy races who would think it disrespectful to not eat a perfectly good corpse, and that rings true too.

My discomfort with the "eating orcs" trope in particular however is—granted an assumed culture where 'cannibalism' is verboten for cultural reasons not grounded solely in disease when it's among the 'good races'—how it fits into the pattern of dehumanization of "those ugly, brutal races that are basically animals" (even when, as here, we see they definitely are people!). It gives off very bad vibes. Both of the "unexamined fantasy racism" type and the "we shall consider invalid the personhood of anyone we are at war with" variety. (And, in that meta-context I suppose I do care a bit that they're humanoid, because it makes the parallels to IRL racism/vendettas all the more uncomfortable.)

 

[Elaborate]

Cannibalism is defined as humans eating humans or animals eating their own kind. I'm not aware of a word that refers to sentients eating sentients of a different species. The concept does raise some questions that are interesting if unpleasant to think about. If you find orc porc disturbing, is it more because orcs are (kind of) intelligent or more because they resemble humans? Are you equally disturbed by dragon steak? How about in settings where dragons are depicted as purely malevolent?

Food for thought.

I mean, if there can be half-orcs, they're a fairly closely related species. Though some settings have half-dragons running around, so...

Dragons feel a bit like whales to me; someone eating it for enjoyment isn't necessarily a psychopath who would happily chop me up next, but I'd certainly hesitate to do it myself.
I think it's going to be different depending on metaphysics and draconic culture. If dragons consider it respectful to dispose of their corpse via eating, it's pretty OK, as long as it won't magically mutate me in weird ways, but I'd reject hunting down an otherwise non-hostile dragon specifically to eat it.
I guess I should logically extend that to Orcs, but they're also ickier pathology-wise, and also easier to hunt or farm for meat; I'd definitely feel that someone farming Orcs is probably a psychopath just itching to do the same to humans...

 

[Otherworlder]

There are some fantasy settings where cannibalism means eating any sentient, not just members of your own species. I believe that this is the definition that Palladium Fantasy uses, though it's not consistent as the 2nd edition only refers to Kobolds eating their own kind.

It's hypocritical to depict Orcs (or any other sentient monster) as being terrible for eating humans, but then go on to talk about how Orcs are delicious.