Imasara desu ga, Osananajimi wo Suki ni Natte Shimaimashita - Ch. 40 - Gears Setting Chaos In Motion

Fed-Kun's army
Joined
Dec 2, 2023
Messages
43
I agree with you in the fact that, yes, is not like you have to be forced to reveal your relationships because what the hell is this insane standard. The problem is in the case of Yuu, he went straight for the confession after the shitstorm with Yami, totally blind, only thinking of himself and ignoring all the alarms he should have noticed when meeting with Hikari.

That's a moment where he should have asked her if something happened to her, when she was very obviously distressed about something and if he did, he probably would have to tell her about Yami, and maybe his confession wouldn't have failed because he wouldn't have looked like the asshole womanizer image we could interpret from Hikari's perspective.

The problem is that situation is still unresolved and we don't know how it will turn out, but he really should have stopped there and leave the confession for another day after a conversation with Hikari. Sooner or later they would have to talk about Yami
She invited him to the confession room - not the other way around.
She said she had something she wanted to tell him - and didn't.
He shouldn't have to 'ask her if something happened to her', since she has functioning vocal chords and SHE is the one who said she wanted to talk. She could have told him she'd eavesdropped and saw what happened minutes earlier.
I think blaming him for her failure to speak is harsh. Guy got blindsided twice in ten minutes.
 
Fed-Kun's army
Joined
Dec 2, 2023
Messages
43
Let's pretend Hikari didn't witness the classroom scene between Yami and Yuu. Let's pretend she accepted Yuu's confession and they start dating. It's eventually going to to come out that Yami and Yuu dated in the past. How is Hikari going to feel when she realizes both her boyfriend and her best friend kept this secret from her?

There's a world of difference between not revealing you dated a stranger in the past and revealing you dated a person's best friend in the past.

There's a world of difference in the level of personal information you're entitled to as a friend, and after you 'start dating'.

So, if we pretend they 'start dating' as you say, it's fair to suggest he's THEN obligated to tell her about Yami. Not before.
Because if we're going to debate if he owed her that information beforehand, we also have to debate whether she owed him the knowledge she'd seen Yami kiss him.
Hikari invited him to the confession room, said she had something she wanted to tell him, and then... didn't. There are plenty of points at which the characters could have avoided the resulting sh*tshow. Trying to pin the blame on Yuu alone for the lack of information is bizarre.
 
Dex-chan lover
Joined
Apr 14, 2025
Messages
62
There's a world of difference in the level of personal information you're entitled to as a friend, and after you 'start dating'.

So, if we pretend they 'start dating' as you say, it's fair to suggest he's THEN obligated to tell her about Yami. Not before.
Because if we're going to debate if he owed her that information beforehand, we also have to debate whether she owed him the knowledge she'd seen Yami kiss him.
Hikari invited him to the confession room, said she had something she wanted to tell him, and then... didn't. There are plenty of points at which the characters could have avoided the resulting sh*tshow. Trying to pin the blame on Yuu alone for the lack of information is bizarre.
Hikari totally should have said she saw the Yami kiss before the whole confession 100% just as I believe Yuu should have mentioned he dated Yami the moment he found out that Yami and Hikari were close friends.

It's an unspoken rule that you don't date people your friends or family dated without first talking to the friend/family member. It's just freaking weird. You don't start dating and then be like "hey babe guess what, less than a year ago I was railing your best friend. Didn't tell you until now because I didn't care about you enough to give you full agency over entering into a potential relationship with me. My bad."
 
Dex-chan lover
Joined
May 29, 2023
Messages
129
Thats VERY relative.
I can't but notice from this chapter that he still has some obvious feelings for Yami.
Enough to prioritize paying her attention instead of running to Hikari who's still waiting for him and even go out of his way to ask from Yamj her phone info and tear up when she broke the thing definitely.
...and he still goes and confess to Hikari immediately after
None of what you said is a demerit against Yuu. He finally saw his ex-gf after over a year of her ghosting him after their beach getaway. Especially given how troubled her homelife is with her stepfather, of which, he still didn't know Yami resolved. So, for all he knew, something troubling could have happened to Yami. So, I think it's understandable that Yuu would prioritize Yami in the moment over Hikari given that the last thing he heard from Yami before the beach, was screaming, shouting, during their late-night talks.

And again, on some level, Yuu would still care about Yami even if they broke up and he moved on. He's just that type of person to begin with.

I swear, people here are crucifying a teenage boy for exhibiting basic empathy and sympathy for someone else while also dealing with some emotional turbulence that most men or women would find hard to navigate in their 20's, 30's, 40's etc.

...and he still goes and confess to Hikari immediately after
He was going to confess to Hikari no matter what. In fact, the entire reason why he even went back to the classroom was to get Hikari. Him meeting Yami was coincidental. Him trying also trying to confess to Hikari after that emotional rollercoaster is also very human.
 
Dex-chan lover
Joined
Jan 21, 2018
Messages
1,052
She invited him to the confession room - not the other way around.
She said she had something she wanted to tell him - and didn't.
He shouldn't have to 'ask her if something happened to her', since she has functioning vocal chords and SHE is the one who said she wanted to talk. She could have told him she'd eavesdropped and saw what happened minutes earlier.
I think blaming him for her failure to speak is harsh. Guy got blindsided twice in ten minutes.
Go read again chapter 36 and 37, anyone with eyes can see she is distressed and distant for the entire time, and when she looks like she is going to confess she just says let's go home, yet he went all in with his confession when he should have stepped back and think about what's up with her and her strange behaviour.

There are a lot of people giving shit to Yuu for not being a perfect gentleman, but this is not one of those. He fucked up.
 
Fed-Kun's army
Joined
Dec 2, 2023
Messages
43
Hikari totally should have said she saw the Yami kiss before the whole confession 100% just as I believe Yuu should have mentioned he dated Yami
You mean the meeting Hikari called him to, where Hikari said she had something to tell him, and instead Hikari tried to leave without saying anything? :rolleyes:

Strongly suspect Yuu was getting tired of being jerked around by two girls expecting him to be psychic, and decided to lead off with the most important thing he had to disclose since Hikari reneged on saying anything at all. And got a sh*t sandwich for his effort.
 
Fed-Kun's army
Joined
Dec 2, 2023
Messages
43
Go read again chapter 36 and 37, anyone with eyes can see she is distressed and distant for the entire time, and when she looks like she is going to confess she just says let's go home, yet he went all in with his confession when he should have stepped back and think about what's up with her and her strange behaviour.

There are a lot of people giving shit to Yuu for not being a perfect gentleman, but this is not one of those. He fucked up.
Hikari's "I've got something to tell you" act followed by her going silent and then getting upset with him because he doesn't read minds is getting OLD. Apparently Yuu has had enough of being expected to stand around for half an hour in silence.
At this point, he should cut his losses and find someone new.
 
Dex-chan lover
Joined
Nov 4, 2024
Messages
263
I feel that would have been the best move, yes.
But when Hikari isn't open about it, it's fine?
Before you start saying she is not going on dates with other boys, Yuu is not giving her signals that he doesn't care at all and is not introducing her to his friends.
She's not an ignorant child, considering she was conscious enough to try setting him up with her friends, rather she just didn't see him as an attractive man.
Trying to set him up with other girls and even getting annoyed at him for not going anywhere with them pretty much makes her middle school self an ignorant child.
 
Last edited:
Active member
Joined
Aug 20, 2024
Messages
28
But when Hikari isn't open about it, it's fine?
No, I never said she didn't make any mistakes, but being clammy about her feelings is the worst thing she's guilty of. Yuu is withholding info that would devastate Hikari if she found out and he just keeps going along with the confession as planned like the self-absorbed dweeb that he is. Like I said earlier, Hikari's mistakes are orders of magnitude softer than Yuu's and Ayami's.
 
Dex-chan lover
Joined
Nov 4, 2024
Messages
263
No, I never said she didn't make any mistakes, but being clammy about her feelings is the worst thing she's guilty of.
Well, I'm of the opposite opinion. I think they were both in their own right to not confess their feelings until they were certain it wouldn't ruin their friendship. I don't think either should be blamed for not being open, especially middle school Yuu who saw how hopeless and one-sided it was back then.
Yuu is withholding info that would devastate Hikari if she found out and he just keeps going along with the confession as planned
Which has nothing to do with what he did in the past.
 
Dex-chan lover
Joined
Jan 21, 2018
Messages
1,052
You mean the meeting Hikari called him to, where Hikari said she had something to tell him, and instead Hikari tried to leave without saying anything? :rolleyes:

Strongly suspect Yuu was getting tired of being jerked around by two girls expecting him to be psychic, and decided to lead off with the most important thing he had to disclose since Hikari reneged on saying anything at all. And got a sh*t sandwich for his effort.
Dude, it's not that hard to understand. After they met she is silent and distant, totally the opposite of what she is usually is. It's obvious something's up with her.

It doesn't matter who invited who and is not about reading anyone's minds, I would be concerned about her being distant, you would be concerned (I suppose, unless you don't know how to read the room and only think of yourself). Why are you trying to escape forward by "suspecting he was tired of being jerked around 2 girls" when there is not a single hint for that, and in fact he felt guilty for leaving her the entire afternoon?

We know it wasn't the best moment for him to be involved in a confession and that's why I said he just should let it go for the moment, but from that to go to the "he was tired of bitches and hoes and that's why he ignored all signs" it's an astronomical jump that is not supported by anything.
 
Fed-Kun's army
Joined
Dec 2, 2023
Messages
43
Dude, it's not that hard to understand. After they met she is silent and distant, totally the opposite of what she is usually is. It's obvious something's up with her.

It doesn't matter who invited who and is not about reading anyone's minds, I would be concerned about her being distant,

When a girl ghosts him, he gets gaslit for not trying to win her back and taking no for an answer.
When a girl pulls the silent treatment, he gets gaslit for trying to win her.
Apparently there's no viable pathway where the girl isn't going to blame the guy no matter what he does.
I'm now shipping for Yami x Hikari, because Yuu's better off without this BS.

#gaslighting
 
Dex-chan lover
Joined
Jan 21, 2018
Messages
1,052
When a girl ghosts him, he gets gaslit for not trying to win her back and taking no for an answer.
When a girl pulls the silent treatment, he gets gaslit for trying to win her.
Apparently there's no viable pathway where the girl isn't going to blame the guy no matter what he does.
I'm now shipping for Yami x Hikari, because Yuu's better off without this BS.

#gaslighting
And who said the girls didn't make mistakes, of course they did xD. Everyone here made mistakes. This is a theme throughout the story, they are teens without experience and they have their own particular situation that could explain it. But you are very headstrong into exculpating Yuu of his own mistakes for some reason I don't understand.

I don't think Yuu is a bad person, he is indecisive and dense but also he already lived some things to be tipping his toes around Hikari, I don't even think he did wrong by not looking for Yami when she ghosted him, which is something a lot of people blamed him for. But to say he is free of any guilt of how his confession turned out is not true, he was totally thinking about himself and ignored Hikari throughout the evening, that's why he fucked up big time there.
 
Fed-Kun's army
Joined
Dec 2, 2023
Messages
43
And who said the girls didn't make mistakes, of course they did xD.

Who you ask?

Hikari is fine. She didn't do anything wrong. She only has the information she has, and to her, Yuu just kissed someone after ignoring her all day then confessed he loved her. Absolutely, turn him down. Sure, you don't have all the information, but even if you did, him confessing that day deserves a rejection.
That's one person saying Hikari didn't do anything wrong.
Only one in this trio that hasn't done anything wrong is Hikari, only thing she's guilty of is being naive.
That's two persons saying Hikari didn't do anything wrong.
I wouldn't say Hikari fucked him over, she really didn't do anything wrong.
And here's you making the third person to claim that Hikari didn't do anything wrong.

Asked and answered. :rolleyes:
 
Last edited:
Dex-chan lover
Joined
Apr 5, 2018
Messages
436
And how could that help to avoid this situation? If he refused to meet the girls Hikari set him up with, then what, she would've suddenly started liking him?
She may have been clued in that he likes her romantically? Which could've maybe caused her to see him in a different light - unknown, Yuu just decided for her that it's a lost cause. Which running theme of this manga - making decisions for other folks instead of talking to them is bad.

Currently the only proactive attempt by Yuu to clue Hikari in on his feelings that the reader knows about is the confession. Maybe we'll get that 1st heartbreak story eventually and it'll show others.
Before you start saying she is not going on dates with other boys, Yuu is not giving her signals that he doesn't care at all and is not introducing her to his friends.
Dating the girls she sets him up w/ is a very strong sign he doesn't care at all.
By setting what expectations? He didn't even go out with those girls, and at the end made it clear he was not into it.
The excerpt you quoted says he hung out w/ those girls a few times & was then awkward. His behavior could very much just be read as he didn't have chemistry with that specific girl, especially given he keeps saying yes to the set ups. The way to make it clear he's not into it is to say no to the setups altogether.

@wozbond said:
If Hikari is 'owed' a heads up, where's Yuu's heads up that Hikari was eavesdropping?

Saying she hates liars to force a conversation instead of swallowing it?

Like I fully agree not the best method and she probably should have either held fast to going home and sorted through her feelings or fully told him what she'd seen.

Since all three have gone for significant periods without telling others how they feel, none of the three have demonstrated a healthy relationship based on openness and honesty.
Yes? Like the reason Hikari rejects the confession is b/c she doesn't want to start a romantic relationship w/ Yuu off on toxic grounds and the reason that she is so hurt here is b/c this upends what she thought her relationships with Yuu and Aya were.

You mean 'kinda even' when she was SCREAMING at him for not making his feelings clear when she did exactly the same thing?

Reads to me likes she's expressing frustration at them/the situation. Like none of the facial expressions here to me read like she's angry at Yuu over this:
https://mangadex.org/chapter/55c183ae-01e9-4fdb-9bb9-e3c77f894f6f/3

Especially since throughout this scene, she's also playing cheerleader - telling Yuu she likes him and that he shouldn't be so down on himself.
 
Last edited:
Dex-chan lover
Joined
Jan 21, 2018
Messages
1,052
Who you ask?
Aha. Hikari not actively going after Yuu throghout the story is not a mistake for her, it means fucking Yuu over, that's a good one. If she forgot to give back a book Yuu lended to her, is not that she forgot but she's fucking him over for not returning his book.

Holy shit the lengths to try to blame the girls of everything and equating all mistakes as if they were in the same grade.
 
Last edited:
Fed-Kun's army
Joined
Dec 2, 2023
Messages
43
Holy shit the lengths to try to blame the girls of everything.

Pffft. I've consistently said all three characters have done things wrong. All three have demonstrated hypocrisy, cowardice and have taken friendships for granted.
If you think it's acceptable for someone who has been oblivious for years to scream at someone else for being oblivious for months, then you do you. If you think it's acceptable to pay out Yuu for daring to confess, when Hikari has squibbed on confessing, then you do you.
All I'm suggesting is that readers measure all three characters using the same standards. Anyone who claims one character has "done nothing wrong" is fatally biased.
 
Dex-chan lover
Joined
Jan 21, 2018
Messages
1,052
All I'm suggesting is that readers measure all three characters using the same standards. Anyone who claims one character has "done nothing wrong" is fatally biased.
But suggesting he is tired of girls pushing him around because damn bitches when nothing like that happened is not being biased, I suppose.
 

Users who are viewing this thread

Top