Risou no Himo Seikatsu - Vol. 18 Ch. 76 - Departure

[Deien]

I really love this series thank you so much

 

[finalm]

That's my point. How many steps away counts as still being royalty? And should the royal family die, how does it change?

It's not about steps, a direct descendant of a royal is a royal. The situation here with Lucrezia is something unheard of. Normally a member of royalty or nobility only lost their place within the class if they were part of a fallen lineage or otherwise stripped of rank entirely (for treason, for example). They don't just get knocked down a class. As for when a ruling family dies out, it's just replaced by a new line, whoever wins the throne in whatever way gets to establish it.

 

[Meowzilla]

If there are any LN readers of this, I wouldn't mind getting spoilered about her in this context

Spoiler: Light novel spoilers

It seems that for political reasons Zenjirou will need to take a concubine from the Twin Kingdoms and as of the last time it was discussed it would probably be Lucy, but she’s mostly put on the back burner after they reach the north. In fact, she’s not even mentioned once in the latest novel.
The only other marriage talked about has been that Freya’s twin brother wants to take a concubine from Capua, and it looks like it will be one of the maids. That’s also kind of on the back burner though because he has to find a bride in his own country first for political reasons.

 

[panzerkampfwagyu]

Spoiler: Light novel spoilers

It seems that for political reasons Zenjirou will need to take a concubine from the Twin Kingdoms and as of the last time it was discussed it would probably be Lucy, but she’s mostly put on the back burner after they reach the north. In fact, she’s not even mentioned once in the latest novel.
The only other marriage talked about has been that Freya’s twin brother wants to take a concubine from Capua, and it looks like it will be one of the maids. That’s also kind of on the back burner though because he has to find a bride in his own country first for political reasons.

Spoiler: Answer Spoiler

Yeah, that seems to line up with my expectations. Unless the Manga Author decides to again change it. At most, I can see her replacing one of the maids instead for Freya's twin brother, but a new character taking the role of a main harem member was pretty unlikeable, given that it would require replanning a lot of story. Wonder if the WN has already a character designated for the Twin Kingdom Concubine instead...

 

[Metonym]

Page 10: 'Secede' is very much not the word here. You could say the king handed over the throne to the prince, or that the prince succeeded the king.

 

[LiAuN]

I still find it funny that he's duke Bilbo XD cuz all I can remember is the hobits

 

[Ultenth]

Being part of a fuedal society is by definition getting pushed around by people in power, unless you're the monarch of a regional superpower and there's no transnational influence (like the church was in Europe) to push you around.

Yeah, but it's not super common in the west here on Earth to get transferred way away from your family and forced to not see them for months on end. Unless you're in the military or something. Japan's proclivity for forcing couples to live apart playing out even in another world is kinda hilarious (I wonder why they have a population crisis?)

 

[Karretch]

It is. This very chapter said that Capua kids get two names, one from each parent.

They were talking about how the chapter spelled it Fauna before the translators fixed it. ふ (fu) is also what is use for (hw) or (hu) sounds, a simple and easy error to make. You can see the error on agg sites via the official translation.

 

[AnotherDuck]

No, royalty was a social class distinct from nobility.

You're way too absolute, as if everyone follows the exact same system. So you're wrong about that being the only way.

 

[finalm]

You're way too absolute, as if everyone follows the exact same system. So you're wrong about that being the only way.

Alright, can you name a feudal society where this definetly wasn't the case?

 

[derpdederp]

Kind of sad that he barely spent time with his new daughter but I guess better now when she's really young than when she's a little older and able to comprehend.

 

[finalm]

Yeah, but it's not super common in the west here on Earth to get transferred way away from your family and forced to not see them for months on end. Unless you're in the military or something. Japan's proclivity for forcing couples to live apart playing out even in another world is kinda hilarious (I wonder why they have a population crisis?)

In the modern world it might not be (and there still are exceptions, sailors on commercial vessels, for example. I happen to have one in my family and he's gone for most of the year), but in medieval times anyone who's work involved travelling further than the next town over would also be gone for extended periods of time. Some merchants have written about forgetting the faces of their children or confusing other women for their wives. Many would travel transcontinental trade routes that could take the better part of the year just one way, since the transportaion was either on foot or by horse carriage.

 

[AnotherDuck]

Alright, can you name a feudal society where this definetly wasn't the case?

You're asking for more specific evidence than my claim is about, while you've not provided any evidence yourself. I'll just point to my own country for an example, but you can find others if you just research a little.

 

[finalm]

You're asking for more specific evidence than my claim is about, while you've not provided any evidence yourself. I'll just point to my own country for an example, but you can find others if you just research a little.

Really? Can you re-state your claim precisely then? Because right now you've said that royalty and nobility were the same social class and when I contradicted you, your anwser was that I'm somehow erronously generalizing - does that not mean you can name these "specific" examples that break the mold? What's the problem then?

As for "your own country", I'm afraid I don't know specifically which one that is, though I'm guessing it's a Scandinavian one (Sweden perhaps)? If that is the case, then I'm having a hard time understanding what makes you think that any of them had a system in which royalty and nobility were the same class... Care to elaborate on that?

Also, am I to understand you need me to prove a negative here? Or are you somehow unconvinced about the royal-noble situation having been the norm as I've described it? What exactly do you want evidence for?

 

[w3searcher]

I forgot about him getting that Bilbo name lol
Dang, 100 days at sea is nothing to scoff at. I wonder how long we'll stay on the boat in the story

I still can't get over the name "Zenkichi". What kind of name is it? Even by the japanese standards it should be considered extremely avant-garde.
Sure, i checked the original writing of this name, and it look like it means good fortune/virtue/happiness. But still... who the heck name their child "zenkichi"? I just can't...

Better than Bilbo lol

Finally new arc. By the time he comes back, his daughter will be ... what, 1 yr old ?

Once he gets on solid ground and can take a photo in a usable location, he should be able to teleport back and forth

 

[fight2live]

the longest i've ever been on a passenger ship was about 3 days. it was a medium-sized ferry and that was already pretty exhausting. i can't imagine more than 3 month on a sailing ship

 

[Diagus]

Next Boss

 

[JustNatsuki]

Anyone whos gonna marry his daughter is gonna marijuana

 

[TheNamekianClown]

Yeah, sorry author, I still don't like her. She always has and continues to feel like a Poochie.

 

[Med1um]

Better than Bilbo lol

That's atleast a different country. I'm not going to argue on naming sense of a fictional country from the other world. I'm, however, have a pretty good idea on japanese common naming sense... or atleast i thought i had...