Boku no Ikezu na Konyakusha - Ch. 20.2

[Mekiaa]

Two 15 year olds not being paragons of good communication? Who would have thought it?

 

[Adden]

At this point... might as well add drama tag...

 

[jpoy21]

I'd honestly argue it's the consquences of Miyuki's neglect of Sorata up to this point.

Sorata's not a blameless victim, but he said this because he truly believes that he's getting in the way of Miyuki truly thriving. He's falling on his sword because he cares about Miyuki enough that he'd rather she reach her full potential, even at the cost of their relationship--which, again, he wants, but Miyuki always frames their engagement through the lens of their grandfathers' wishes.

And, Sorata's been getting the same sentiment of his inadequacy from everyone around them. That goes on long enough, and anyone would start to internalize it to the point they believe it themselves.

He certainly regrets saying it aloud, because doing so puts it out into the world where it risks being confirmed. But it's been on his mind since before even coming to Kyoto, and all his worries were coming to a head and tumbled out of him in this moment.

And instead of pushing back, Miyuki affirmed it, as Sorata always feared she would.

To add to this discussion, I really think that it just boils down to Sorata being around people from Kyoto too much that he tries to find hidden undertones in what they say instead of taking their statements as is. And Miyuki, being from Kyoto, says or does things naturally that Sorata thinks was in "Kyoto speak" instead of being literal. I really think that this is a great way of using the "misunderstanding" trope to create tension.

 

[Lordekomy]

There is no way Sorata still has to go above and beyond for her. This is incredibly frustrating to read...

She can't even bring herself to just say "I went to your school because I want to be with you" even though Sorata has been doing everything he could to tell her that he likes her since chapter 1 ! HE LITERALLY CONFESSED TO HER ON CHAPTER 1 !!
But when he's feeling insecure and unsure, not only because of Miyuki refusing to explictly acknowledge any of her feelings towards him but also because of all the mean comments he keeps getting on a daily basis, he STILL has to be the one to go above and beyond for her.

How dense can Miyuki be to never notice what Sorata is going through on a daily basis ? Is she ever going to do anything to pull her weight ? Or will it always be Sorata doing all the heavy lifting in this godforsaken relationship.

At this point, I don't even want them to be together because Miyuki would clearly make Sorata unhappy.

 

[Mangamoz]

I'm betting that it will end up being neither of these 2 that will resolve this issue, but actually one of her family members instead.

Someone will put 2 and 2 together, look at how much of an empty husk she has become because of familial duty, and go:

"Hold up, are we actually ROYALLY fucking her up emotionally by putting all these burdens on her? Are we just doing way more harm than good?"

 

[______ho_______]

Man I thought I was bad for reading so quickly, but people commenting without thinking for even a minute makes me wanna gouge my eyes.

 

[Arventius]

FMC is hiding her feelings the whole time and people still call the MC dense.

You need to stop always blaming the guy, just because he is the MC of the story.

 

[UdenEmpati]

To add to this discussion, I really think that it just boils down to Sorata being around people from Kyoto too much that he tries to find hidden undertones in what they say instead of taking their statements as is. And Miyuki, being from Kyoto, says or does things naturally that Sorata thinks was in "Kyoto speak" instead of being literal. I really think that this is a great way of using the "misunderstanding" trope to create tension.

The reason Sorata is always looking for undertones in Miyuki's words is because Ayano screwed with his head when they were all younger, telling him that "[Kyoto Phrase A] means [Bad/Rude Thing B]"--out of anger at Sorata for coming in and "stealing Miyuki's potential away" because of something their grandfathers unilaterally decided.
And Sorata, the literal child he was being "guided" by an elder future brother-in-law, didn't question him, and no one ever corrected his misjudgment, either.
Interestingly, this is the first chapter Miyuki says anything regarding how untrustworthy Ayano can be. But rather than being direct about it, she just says "he's always saying unnecessary things". Once again, vague phrases that don't communicate specific ideas that perpetuate the problems between them.

You are correct, though, that it's a quite novel approach to the "misunderstanding trope" that a lot of romance manga fall back on to create conflict. A literal mismatch/misinterpretation of regional dialect is more fun to me, anyway, than the usual "two people not specifying the subject of their sentence and use the same term two different ways = misunderstanding" that tends to be the go-to.

 

[Darroth]

Bro, how did you think she was going to react?

 

[ExtraM]

Rent a girlfriend levels of fumbling

 

[rakkunburns]

Sigh...

COMMUNICATION.

 

[______ho_______]

I'm freaking the fcuk out. Of course he should have just smiled and say he was grateful to be spending time with her. In fact, when they're together and married he should continue to say "Thanks for turning down those opportunities to be with me." 🙄 Jeez are we reading from the same PoV character?


Hopeing to see MC pull up his bootstraps and get over his insecurities, get good grades, and make himself the fiancee he thinks she deserves.
Then again, maybe it's too similar to Boku no Kokoro. Down to be surpised.

 

[arimareiji]

Bro, how did you think she was going to react?

👆
"I know you just told me you chose to be with me of your own will, and that you chose the school that makes you happy, but I agree with your brother that you should do the exact opposite of what you think you want. Because we know you can do better than that."
…
"Wait, was that bad?"

 

[Kababman]

Ayano needs to get jumped lowkey

 

[UdenEmpati]

👆
"I know you just told me you chose to be with me of your own will, and that you chose the school makes you happy, but I'm going to say you should do the exact opposite of what you said you want. Because your brother and I know you can do better than that."
…
"Wait, was that bad?"

You should maybe go back and read the actual dialogue of the chapter.

All Miyuki says is, quote,

"Coming to Tokyo was my choice."
"Adding onto that, I interpreted Grandpa's words as, 'go to the same school as Sorata-san'."

No statement of choosing Tokyo because it makes her happy. No statement of intent on going to be with Sorata.

Not once did she say she wants to be Sorata of her own will.

 

[EulBassist]

Thanks for the chapter!

 

[arimareiji]

You should maybe go back and read the actual dialogue of the chapter.

All Miyuki says is, quote,

"Coming to Tokyo was my choice."
"Adding onto that, I interpreted Grandpa's words as, 'go to the same school as Sorata-san'."

No statement of choosing Tokyo because it makes her happy. No statement of intent on going to be with Sorata.

Not once did she say she wants to be Sorata of her own will.

Before you assert that I don't know what I'm talking about, i.e. "You should maybe go back and read the actual dialogue":

Why are you deliberately ignoring the fact "Going to Tokyo was my choice" fits exactly what I said, that it was her choice?

And the fact that she follows up by filling in the rest of Ayano's position with "and that… going to the school that fit me was a waste"?

She's contradicting it by saying "No, the school I'm going to is the one that fit me" and making clear that she's not happy that Ayano is saying it's a waste. And she's already stated previously that she's happy going there, whether he remembers or not. Again, he's saying that he agrees with her brother that even if she chose otherwise, he and her brother know what she needs better than she does.

 

[Dylan0223]

I'm really hoping that this is the catalyst for them actually sitting down and TALKING about their relationship and feelings. Sorata lives with them on his sleeve, but Miyuki needs to be open(at least to him, if no one else) about what she thinks and feels. She still hasn't noticed that he misunderstands her comments now and then, and keeping her feelings to herself instead of being open with the person she clearly does love only hurts him(and in return, herself. Like now)

 

[Blazer947]

to the waiting bin this manga go
lets wait for a couple of chapters for these stupid misunderstanding tropes to finish
say 2 months? like 4-8 chapters?

 

[______ho_______]

Before you assert that I don't know what I'm talking about, i.e. "You should maybe go back and read the actual dialogue":

Why are you deliberately ignoring the fact "Going to Tokyo was my choice" fits exactly what I said, that it was her choice?

And the fact that she follows up by filling in the rest of Ayano's position with "and that… going to the school that fit me was a waste"?

She's contradicting it by saying "No, the school I'm going to is the one that fit me" and making clear that she's not happy that Ayano is saying it's a waste. And she's already stated previously that she's happy going there, whether he remembers or not. Again, he's saying that he agrees with her brother that even if she chose otherwise, he and her brother know what she needs better than she does.

If he actually understood that she's choosing their school to be with him of her free will, Sorata would would also have accepted that she has special for him.
Her intentions are not clear-cut to him because they're being obfuscated by the will of her grandfather, whom he knows Miyuki holds dear.


Edit: Also maybe I'm wrong but the "and that fulfilling grandfather's will by going to a school fit for me was a waste" line might be coming from Sorata? Reads to me like he's paraphrasing the brother and self-depricating.