Toukyou KINOKO ~Sekai Ranking 1-i no Komyu-ryoku Saijaku JK~ - Ch. 23 - Friends

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From our point of view sure, but Kinoko is so far from what you would expect to see from a powerful fighter that people's biases prevent them from even considering the possibility.
Sure, but like if I know im looking for someone who has power levels off the charts at the #1 spot... and some Joe Nobody shows up and with a simple vertical slash light swing OBLITERATES our power measuring device we use to measure some of the top fighters out there...

...I'm sure as fuck going to take some notice. Like clearly the device isn't some prototype bullshit, and sees everyday use to measure and rank people. So they know what to expect when using it. And if it took a hit so hard it literally exploded?

Me personally on this mission? I'd have at least had someone notified to look into whomever did it, because even if they aren't the #1 we were looking for they gotta be like in the top 10, easy.

Like I get it, its a fav trope: My fuckin' power level is over 9000! omfg the scouter/crystal/device breaks/explodes/reads nonsense... Huh! Must be faulty! No way that could possibly be right despite these devices being used all the time and considered reliable and well understood.

Still, you'd think someone with half a brain would like.... question that. Lol
 
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Heck yeah. For someone who seemed so sinister at times :worry: she's just another girlfailure like Kinoko for applying the wrong common sense :wooow: I think that's what's happening at least. A nervous wreck version of Batman v Superman.
The reason medieval knights never conquer Japan was because none of them knew it existed. Also because of the shit quality of iron that exists in Japan a knight in a full suit of plate armor would basically be Invincible to a samurai because they have no real way of getting through the armor and shield. Also I just want to let everyone know that in real life Katana blades were usually folded between 8 to 16 times.
Wow so tough daydream jingoism against imaginary weebs pffft

Dude.

Getting through the armor and shield is not how HEMA 1v1 armored combat defeated armor. That's a lesser backup to go around it or smash it. Some 14th century European knights did wear basically perfect ergonomics resisting slashing, and okay against piercing, yet it could be killed by polearms, bludgeons, heavy bows, and increasingly better handcannons.

Folding myths aside late-pre-Perry-Japanese upperclass weapons were truly adequate, iron slat armor was not totally useless, and most importantly they're not obligated to start a 1v1 limited to stereotypical short swords. Starting with a bludgeon or polearm, or paired to armored footmen, the odds aren't punishing. Armor tips the odds but not by multiples on its own given knocking the other armor over is done without closing to slashing distances. Logistics and unprepared culture are the big deciders, not holier than thou magiks.
 
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The reason medieval knights never conquer Japan was because none of them knew it existed. Also because of the shit quality of iron that exists in Japan a knight in a full suit of plate armor would basically be Invincible to a samurai because they have no real way of getting through the armor and shield.
If all they used were katana, sure, but they used many other weapons, and would have been able to defeat them with those. Even with full plate knights were taken down by longbows, and especially with [三人張り] Sannin-bari and [四人張り] Yonnin-bari, 3-man and 4-man bows respectively (the number of men indicating number of average strength men needed to bend the stave and string the bow) could easily have done so; modern Kyuudo bows are similar in draw weight to modern English archery practice bows, because they don't rely on serious strength; it's a sport about precision, rather than power. The "shit quality of the iron" was why they needed to forge it so much, by the by; it got it pretty pure and forced the iron sand to form a cohesive whole. The quality issue was in the raw material, not the finished product.

Also I just want to let everyone know that in real life Katana blades were usually folded between 8 to 16 times.
So between 256 (lower-end, mass-produced blades) and 65,536 (higher-end, probably ceremonial blades like the giant swords mounted in shrines) layers? Sounds about right (every fold is 2^n, where n = the number of the fold; 8 is 256 but 10 is 1024; exponential growth is a hell of a thing).

Samurai were even weak against the Mongols during their 2 invasions. The samurai were wrecked when they directly faced off against the Mongols, so they switched to guerilla warfare and being behind fortifications, where they had more success.
During the first, you mean? Because by the second they had adapted to the tactics of the Mongols and held them off at the beaches. And the only reason they stomped the samurai during the first invasion (and weren't tested in return if they could have adapted earlier) was because they were used to honourable duels, aka 1 on 1 combat, while the Mongols brought squad-based combat tactics.
 
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at least she's not part of the Takamachi Nanoha school of making friends
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damn. someone beat me to it.
Starliiiiiiiiiight~
 
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Just curious, is the author on break? I saw the raws and this chapter was uploaded 3 weeks ago.

Edit: I just saw the small print, my bad.
 
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So between 256 (lower-end, mass-produced blades) and 65,536 (higher-end, probably ceremonial blades like the giant swords mounted in shrines) layers? Sounds about right (every fold is 2^n, where n = the number of the fold; 8 is 256 but 10 is 1024; exponential growth is a hell of a thing).
In real life infinitely folding iron doesn't make it infinitely stronger. A blade that had a billion layers wouldn't be any stronger than a blade that had a thousand layers. People did research and found that past fold number three nothing really changes.
 
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What if there's a plot twist? since we didn't see her rank in the screen it might reveal her name and us too we didn't see it because of that. But the plot twist might become funny like she's rank 50 but stronger than rank 1? (I'm just saying this, I'm not saying she isn't rank 1, I'm just getting ready to the oblivious plot twist in the end.)
 
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One disaster of a girl hunting for another disaster of a girl with one sane girl soon to be stuck dealing with them both. Certainly that attempt at handling a gun will throw anyone, especially a weapon specialist, of the scent of you being even vaguely competent in a fight.
 
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Gracias por la traducción.
Es bueno volver a ver a varios de los personajes de los primeros capítulos, en especial a Igarashi para que la pongan en su sitio.
 
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In real life infinitely folding iron doesn't make it infinitely stronger. A blade that had a billion layers wouldn't be any stronger than a blade that had a thousand layers. People did research and found that past fold number three nothing really changes.
Where did I say anything about making it "infinitely stronger"? I just said that the number of folds checks out, and what you were likely to see that had a given number at the top and low ends, because the more it's folded and re-welded, the more uniform it becomes, until you get what is effectively a monosteel at around 12 folds. I will say I seriously doubt whatever source you used for that three folds statement as being accurate, simply because of the effect of homogeneity on any given metal alloy.
 
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In real life infinitely folding iron doesn't make it infinitely stronger. A blade that had a billion layers wouldn't be any stronger than a blade that had a thousand layers. People did research and found that past fold number three nothing really changes.
Actually, if you fold it too much, the purity goes up. That means that eventually you are left with iron instead of steel.
 

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