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TL note that got put in as text by CL/TS.
A Rank Party wo Ridatsu Shita Ore wa, Moto Oshiego Tachi to Meikyuu Shinbu wo Mezasu. - Vol. 5 Ch. 61 - Divine Punishment
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Reminder that in the story it turns out Jamie was a good girl all along
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TO THE MAIN GIRLS??
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2nd reply, spoiler territory for chapter 65
Damn. I do hope that the girl does make it out, but the sexual violence tag is coming out in FULL FORCE for the rest of the women in that party. I do hope she can make it out somehow. She may not have been with the best crowd, but she very clearly doesn't deserve the treatment that she might be about to get.
this is pretty much the "Could not connect to the translator" banner
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What do you mean?
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Literally the floor opens beneath them.
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Imagine a locked-room mystery, where the solution was: "And so he was teleported away by an improbable rift opening in time and space".
Like....Why write this scene at all, if the author doesn't have any idea how to get out of it? Maybe the original novel made more sense, but the manga adaptation took a shortcut? (And I assume this is adapted, because everything like this is).
But even then that doesn't make any sense, because it'd make more sense for the MC to just have enough mana to cast an earthquake spell to open up that hole, than to just have it open on its own.
But instead, the MC was:
1. Manaless, exhausted,
2. Had no items or equipment on him
3. Had hostages played against him
Why would anyone write themselves so hard against a wall, without planning beforehand how to get out of it in a satisfying, or at least not utterly stupid manner? I'm sure nobody here expects great writing, but this sort of deus-ex-machina is simply baffling. It cannot be that the author of this work, or whomever adapted it, gives this little amount of fucks about this story, I simply refuse to believe it..
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Imagine a locked-room mystery, where the solution was: "And so he was teleported away by an improbable rift opening in time and space".
Like....Why write this scene at all, if the author doesn't have any idea how to get out of it? Maybe the original novel made more sense, but the manga adaptation took a shortcut? (And I assume this is adapted, because everything like this is).
But even then that doesn't make any sense, because it'd make more sense for the MC to just have enough mana to cast an earthquake spell to open up that hole, than to just have it open on its own.
But instead, the MC was:
1. Manaless, exhausted,
2. Had no items or equipment on him
3. Had hostages played against him
Why would anyone write themselves so hard against a wall, without planning beforehand how to get out of it in a satisfying, or at least not utterly stupid manner? I'm sure nobody here expects great writing, but this sort of deus-ex-machina is simply baffling. It cannot be that the author of this work, or whomever adapted it, gives this little amount of fucks about this story, I simply refuse to believe it..
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I'll be frank, I haven't read every single chapter of this arc, but I have read the last 7 or so chapters.
And still, with confidence, this is a deus ex machina, or something not very far off from it.
A hole, opening up conveniently, precisely at their exact position. The hole literally opened beneath the feet of the villains so quickly and fiercely, that it captured only the villains, and it saved them.
A hole, opened up in what is probably a pretty long staircase, and they heard nothing but a few shakes? Imagine a building collapsing beneath you, you wouldn't see any smoke? Dust? NOISE? Nothing? Why is it so immediate and sudden? They got teleported? Was the floor beneath them like 5 inches away, and the hole tore through the floor itself? It's not a deus ex machina? You want me to keep going?
Ya'know what, let's assume it's not: if in the past 15 or so chapters it was shown that the floor can crumble out of nowhere for seemingly no reason, sure. It's weak writing, but it's not quite deus ex machina anymore.
Regardless what it is -- whether it's a utter and complete cop-out, or just a weak cop-out -- the matter of the fact, is that this scene is utter weaksauce. The MC was put so hard against the wall, with everything stacked against him, and every reader was expecting the MC to find a clever, or satisfying way for him to make escape.
Instead, the floor beneath their feet just crumbled away.
It wasn't that the MC had a magical ring that had a spell engraved on it for emergencies, and thus created the hole himself in a last-ditch effort to escape,
It wasn't that the MC used that party's sheer malicious hubris against them to get eaten by the monsters from that room they're literally a few inches from, and thus override the slavery item...
No, it was a god damn hole in the floor. Do you actually think that this sort of writing makes sense, even for these sort of low-effort stories?
On that note, I wrote way too much already about this stupid thing...
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I'm just stuck on him refusing to even consider fighting them, and contemplating suicide when he literally just promised his soul away to the death goddess... who gave him the power of THE GODS.
If the choice is to maybe die from using god magic, or screw over every single person you love and kill yourself?
Like... how pathetically useless can you be as a human?
Just die already, Yoke.
If the choice is to maybe die from using god magic, or screw over every single person you love and kill yourself?
Like... how pathetically useless can you be as a human?
Just die already, Yoke.
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Kill yourself MC
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This whole development, and the sudden hole in particular, feels off.
Some commenters here say that a 3rd party showing up would have been equally as "deux ex machina" BS as the hole, but I object.
It would have made perfect sense: witnesses see Simon's party entering the dungeon despite the ban, so the guild sends an investigating/capture party after them. Them catching up right on time would be a little coincidental, but at least it wouldn't come out of nowhere.
Instead, we have this:
The goddess of the Underworld showing up and putting Yoke's party through a "trial", that's fine. It's the base plot here.
Yoke's party not using a scroll of exit when they have the time, despite their predicament, that's bad enough.
Simon's party finding Yoke's party easily, at the exact right time, despite the difficulty of the dungeon, that's stretching things already.
A hole just opens suddenly right under the villains' feet at the exact right time... At this stage, the author just decided to drop all pretense at making a believable situation because they wanted their slavery trope and a way to use it for cheap tension. Also barely believable. If the dungeon is that fragile, it would be easy for spelunking parties to just dig their way down then teleport out with a scroll. Also, no "stampede" would ever happen because the monsters would crash down when trying to stampede out of their own floor.
I appreciate the story overall, but this part could have flowed much better without that last "deus ex".
Some commenters here say that a 3rd party showing up would have been equally as "deux ex machina" BS as the hole, but I object.
It would have made perfect sense: witnesses see Simon's party entering the dungeon despite the ban, so the guild sends an investigating/capture party after them. Them catching up right on time would be a little coincidental, but at least it wouldn't come out of nowhere.
Instead, we have this:
The goddess of the Underworld showing up and putting Yoke's party through a "trial", that's fine. It's the base plot here.
Yoke's party not using a scroll of exit when they have the time, despite their predicament, that's bad enough.
Simon's party finding Yoke's party easily, at the exact right time, despite the difficulty of the dungeon, that's stretching things already.
A hole just opens suddenly right under the villains' feet at the exact right time... At this stage, the author just decided to drop all pretense at making a believable situation because they wanted their slavery trope and a way to use it for cheap tension. Also barely believable. If the dungeon is that fragile, it would be easy for spelunking parties to just dig their way down then teleport out with a scroll. Also, no "stampede" would ever happen because the monsters would crash down when trying to stampede out of their own floor.
I appreciate the story overall, but this part could have flowed much better without that last "deus ex".
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mc a trash can... i cant care anymore. It had gone pass the lowest point and he still has his peaceful mode on. Didnt he get some life energy from the 2 girls? use the dark magic then. You planned to die after the contract? u could have died in a better way but instead u had to let them get raped first smh.
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That party is insufferable. I hope they die a terrible death.
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Couldn't edit to add a note, but it turns out that this is a consistent part of the story. So, not too stretchy. The timing is still a bit convenient, but not the ease of access.
The staircase breaking down is still in serious need of explanation though.
The staircase breaking down is still in serious need of explanation though.
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Hmm, so it's not really just a bad nightmare but a real event where Trash Pike somehow got to them safely for an ambush. Using yet-to-be-revealed magical tools provided by their sponsor I suppose. Although that doesn't quite explain how they got to enter a dungeon that's supposed to be guarded by the guild.
Hello deus ex machina. This is made much more apparent when we get into the fine details of how the earthquake conveniently saved the protagonists at exactly the just right moment while simultaneously opening a hole that specifically screwed over the villains. Good to see Trash Pike finally falling apart with Jamie effectively betraying the others.
I guess falling into a city full of orcs explains why... this manga has the Sexual Violence tag on it. Not a fan of that and I kinda hope it applies to Simon and that other dude who threatened rape and not the girls. But as much as I hate to admit it, I know better with how edgy manga usually go with this: that one black-haired priestess girl is likely going to hell on earth pretty soon (like, "fuck her in particular" kind of hell even though it's Simon who deserves the worst punishment among them), and maybe even Jamie too if she can't save herself and the protag party won't save her.
Also, use the damn scroll of exit already. It's always somehow unusable whenever they exactly need it.
Hello deus ex machina. This is made much more apparent when we get into the fine details of how the earthquake conveniently saved the protagonists at exactly the just right moment while simultaneously opening a hole that specifically screwed over the villains. Good to see Trash Pike finally falling apart with Jamie effectively betraying the others.
I guess falling into a city full of orcs explains why... this manga has the Sexual Violence tag on it. Not a fan of that and I kinda hope it applies to Simon and that other dude who threatened rape and not the girls. But as much as I hate to admit it, I know better with how edgy manga usually go with this: that one black-haired priestess girl is likely going to hell on earth pretty soon (like, "fuck her in particular" kind of hell even though it's Simon who deserves the worst punishment among them), and maybe even Jamie too if she can't save herself and the protag party won't save her.
Also, use the damn scroll of exit already. It's always somehow unusable whenever they exactly need it.
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